Traditional Mafia Game Round 9 - Knives Out

[Larsi]

If you notice, i said i was gonna side with Mafia & then changed my mind when i saw you revived, why would i do that?
It means i was gonna side with Mafia when they were just 2 but when they became 3, i changed my mind
Because i wanted to make the game more exciting, i wanted to side with whoever have less chances of winning

It's not a deserved win for Mafia or Me if i just side with them & end the game quickly
And btw even though i was fully playing as Town, i was actually helping you guys early a little because unfortunately i wasn't given any ability to get rid of Gambit & had to rely on you to kill her

I used my super kill to help you, and then you try to lynch us

 

[Larsi]

By the way, i think it was fitting that I was the one and only king

 

[RAIL_GUN]

If you notice, i said i was gonna side with Mafia & then changed my mind when i saw you revived, why would i do that?
It means i was gonna side with Mafia when they were just 2 but when they became 3, i changed my mind
Because i wanted to make the game more exciting, i wanted to side with whoever have less chances of winning

No, I got that. What I meant was that choice was what cost you your win. I mean at the end of the day it's entirely up to you and I respect you choosing the harder route to win for the sake of entertainment. Just that, once you opted to side with town, you'd essentially lost your most viable path to victory.

 

[Salah Eddine]

I used my super kill to help you, and then you try to lynch us

I attacked Gambit myself, i just wanted to make sure you don't target me or use any redirections or anything
Also if i was truly trustworthy i would have revealed my Identity in the message i sent

No, I got that. What I meant was that choice was what cost you your win. I mean at the end of the day it's entirely up to you and I respect you choosing the harder route to win for the sake of entertainment. Just that, once you opted to side with town, you'd essentially lost your most viable path to victory.

It's okay, as i said my intention wasn't to just win
To be honest the true Victory that i always aim for & satisfies me is when i'm the last survivor, i wanted Town & Mafia to kill each other & only me & Odd remain xD

 

[Hayumi]

Nobody in particular is to blame but like if odd would have just voted me like I said we could have had a chance.



my vote stayed on him in case Alice and Poison voted him over me, but I trusted he would do the same wtf bro.

 

[oddoddfruit]

Nobody in particular is to blame but like if odd would have just voted me like I said we could have had a chance.



my vote stayed on him in case Alice and Poison voted him over me, but I trusted he would do the same wtf bro.

How about you don't come in last minute, listen to the mafia and change a perfectly good plan

 

[Hayumi]

How about you don't come in last minute, listen to the mafia and change a perfectly good plan

Why would you not vote me? You can’t vote yourself correct? I know for a fact you saw my message so that’s all you had to do just to guarantee it was basically either me or you even if neither of us were sure where all the town votes were between you and me.

 

[oddoddfruit]

So on trial phase 5 how did Rej not get voted up?

 

[Oreki]

So on trial phase 5 how did Rej not get voted up?

[Active - Foul Play] - The investigation of Harlan Thromebey’s suicide ongoing. There is much remains unclear for Benoit Blanc but he suspects foul play. During the Interrogation Phase, he may target a player of his choice to nominate them as [Suspect]. His vote on that player will be counted as Three. The ability must be issued 6 hours before the Interrogation phase, later than that won’t be accepted. [2-shots]

 

[RAIL_GUN]

@Oreki Are you planning to share your thoughts on the game?

 

[Oreki]

@Oreki Are you planning to share your thoughts on the game?

I usually don't give out reviews on players, although if I have to talk about my game setup I think I could have made this setup even better i.e. I think Trust Points was really easy to gain given players able to attain quite many despite being inactive and all. Mafia not having fake claims was another problem but it was due to lack of characters from the movie that was the main reason Rej had janitor kill and only limited claims were allowed per day phase. To me, I think there is lot of room for improvement if we're talking about the setup.

As for players, I think most of them were inactive and kinda disappointing that none of the town players tried to manage the votes or discuss properly who to vote for Observer and Kingmaker late into the game, they all just assumed themselves who to vote. It was frustrating 'cause it doesn't really require much discussion to decide who to choose as kingmaker when they already know about mafia identity. Even before that Salah and gambit were the only two players who were trying to move the game and they just happen to be 3rd parties lol.

 

[RAIL_GUN]

I usually don't give out reviews on players, although if I have to talk about my game setup I think I could have made this setup even better i.e. I think Trust Points was really easy to gain given players able to attain quite many despite being inactive and all. Mafia not having fake claims was another problem but it was due to lack of characters from the movie that was the main reason Rej had janitor kill and only limited claims were allowed per day phase. To me, I think there is lot of room for improvement if we're talking about the setup.

As for players, I think most of them were inactive and kinda disappointing that none of the town players tried to manage the votes or discuss properly who to vote for Observer and Kingmaker late into the game, they all just assumed themselves who to vote. It was frustrating 'cause it doesn't really require much discussion to decide who to choose as kingmaker when they already know about mafia identity. Even before that Salah and gambit were the only two players who were trying to move the game and they just happen to be 3rd parties lol.

Yeah, fair enough. I will say I really liked the approach to lynching here, I don't think I've ever seen a game do it this way and that really is saying something given I've played in loads of places etc. There were a lot of mechanics in the game and I wonder if it would have been easier for you to take a couple out to polish the ones already in but I don't think there was anything egregiously off. It was a good game, and the ambition was top notch, if you keep this up frankly I can see your games quickly becoming "must plays" for me because mechanically your innovation already is superb.

 

[Oreki]

Yeah, fair enough. I will say I really liked the approach to lynching here, I don't think I've ever seen a game do it this way and that really is saying something given I've played in loads of places etc. There were a lot of mechanics in the game and I wonder if it would have been easier for you to take a couple out to polish the ones already in but I don't think there was anything egregiously off. It was a good game, and the ambition was top notch, if you keep this up frankly I can see your games quickly becoming "must plays" for me because mechanically your innovation already is superb.

Thanks. When creating this game, I really wanted to have this element in-game that feels like players really interrogating others and the Jury system was the only way that came to my mind and I was not really sure how it all would play out so I just went with this like it's an experiment lol.

 

[Larsi]

I usually don't give out reviews on players, although if I have to talk about my game setup I think I could have made this setup even better i.e. I think Trust Points was really easy to gain given players able to attain quite many despite being inactive and all. Mafia not having fake claims was another problem but it was due to lack of characters from the movie that was the main reason Rej had janitor kill and only limited claims were allowed per day phase. To me, I think there is lot of room for improvement if we're talking about the setup.

As for players, I think most of them were inactive and kinda disappointing that none of the town players tried to manage the votes or discuss properly who to vote for Observer and Kingmaker late into the game, they all just assumed themselves who to vote. It was frustrating 'cause it doesn't really require much discussion to decide who to choose as kingmaker when they already know about mafia identity. Even before that Salah and gambit were the only two players who were trying to move the game and they just happen to be 3rd parties lol.

Had it not been for the limited claims, scum wouldnt have stood a chance. I still think we were too few or too weak, town just misplayed too hard.

 

[Oreki]

Had it not been for the limited claims, scum wouldnt have stood a chance. I still think we were too few or too weak, town just misplayed too hard.

I think abilities wise Mafia was powerful 'cause most townies only had one ability, also they only had one protective role so it reduce the chances that mafia kill could fail, none of the third parties had any wincon that require them to have any beef with mafia. Claims disadvantage for mafia but even that worked due to limited claims.