Powers & Abilities Was Observation Haki forgotten in Wano?

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In Fishman Island Luffy,Zoro and Sanji were able to detect Caribou with ease in a massive palace. I am surprised Kaido or any top tier person on Wano wasn't able to detect anyone strong entering the island.

I really don't wanna believe Beast Pirates don't have CoO specialists or any good CoO user but the lack of CoO usage during the raid is concerning me. CoO was always inconsistent ever since post TS and i feel like it is becoming more and more inconsistent the more time goes on
 

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Well when you're the strongest creature do you notice people weaker than you enter?
 

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They didn't notice him on the way down to FMI. They noticed him when he had evil intentions for Shiroshi but not when he was snatching up mermaids.
Yea but now you have Alliance rampaging through Onigashima and fighting and no one is reaction. Evil intention is there.
And even if Evil Intention isn't there you still detect strong people.
 

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Yea but now you have Alliance rampaging through Onigashima and fighting and no one is reaction. Evil intention is there.
And even if Evil Intention isn't there you still detect strong people.
Is it evil intention? :chuu:
I would counter that it's determination and not considered evil.
But I still say you don't notice people weaker than you (Or that you perceive to be weaker than yourself).
 

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Is it evil intention? :chuu:
I would counter that it's determination and not considered evil.
But I still say you don't notice people weaker than you (Or that you perceive to be weaker than yourself).
Ofc it is evil intention. You are harming people.
You can notice anyone you want with Obs Haki. Strong or Weak. Hell you can even detect emotion
 

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Ofc it is evil intention. You are harming people.
You can notice anyone you want with Obs Haki. Strong or Weak. Hell you can even detect emotion
Do evil people know evil intentions towards them?
Yea but unless you're Mochi-man you're not having CoO going all the time.

someone else should join us. Lol
 

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Do evil people know evil intentions towards them?

Yea but unless you're Mochi-man you're not having CoO going all the time.
Not even Mochi man has it on at all times.
Best i can explain it , CoO is like spidey sense. It can be activated but it can also work as a passive ability
 
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You can't expect every OP character have Aisa-lvl CoO :weirdpeep:
 
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Not even Mochi man has it on at all times.
Best i can explain it , CoO is like spidey sense. It can be activated but it can also work as a passive ability
:blobwhatever: using Witcher logic on me...

That's what I was saying though is that it's not on all the time.
And again, if you're the strongest creature in the world do you still get that spidey sense?

Oh! I have a good example! How the hell did none of Big Mom pirates notice King or Marco coming up to them and knocking them down the waterfall?
If you're a Yonko crew everyone is beneath you. :sarcasticshottie:

apparently this topic was bigger than our discord chat could handle. Lol
 

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:blobwhatever: using Witcher logic on me...

That's what I was saying though is that it's not on all the time.
And again, if you're the strongest creature in the world do you still get that spidey sense?

Oh! I have a good example! How the hell did none of Big Mom pirates notice King or Marco coming up to them and knocking them down the waterfall?
If you're a Yonko crew everyone is beneath you. :sarcasticshottie:

apparently this topic was bigger than our discord chat could handle. Lol
Thats my entire point tho

CoO is as almost forgotten. It is very inconsistent
We are now at a stage where everyone is strong and yet they cant use basic CoO skills
 

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Thats my entire point tho

CoO is as almost forgotten. It is very inconsistent
We are now at a stage where everyone is strong and yet they cant use basic CoO skills
It's not forgotten though. Basic CoO isn't needed because not many people will dare to approach a Yonko crew.

But also we didn't see CoO with the Warlords either.
 

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There are several possibilities IMO.

1. It was totally forgotten but inadvertent. Those fools are confident that they had executed their plans pretty well that there's no room for error. And so, why use it. However, this is the stupidest shit to do if you command an army of the beast against penetrators.

2. They had been using it since and going with the flow as again, they were confident that whoever and whichever it may be, they can eradicate enemies because, duh they BM and Kaido.

3. They got intel and trust the intel process. Look what happened in Udon and how the message relied on Queen. It's clear that as long as there is trusted personnel left or appointed in each of the sectors of the state, then there's no reason to waste energy in order to track people.
 
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Ulti has CoO. She recognized Luffy's presence and called him strong.

Kaido likely has CoO too but doesn't care because he fodderized Kid and Luffy before.
 
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Thats my entire point tho

CoO is as almost forgotten. It is very inconsistent
We are now at a stage where everyone is strong and yet they cant use basic CoO skills
Do you even understand the full extent of "basic CoO"?? I sure as hell don't but we can still make certain assumptions.
I am pretty sure it was said most people specialized in one or the other and not both. Enel had Mantra that was amplified by his DF, without that amplification there must be a distance limit to basic CoO. To even use future sight on a particular individual it seems that is necessary to be in a certain range. Also using CoO means that you looking for something. When Coby unlocked his CoO he heard all the voices at the same time which means in order to get decent information from CoO you need to concentrate on what you want to hear or see. Do you see characters walking around with constant CoA armor? Obviously the answer is no. So how could know they are being invaded when they are not actively using it?

As for the other part of your argument about them not using it when they are revealed I dunno. The way I see it if two people are fighting you don't have time to run a scan with CoO. If we assume King has top tier CoO I am pretty sure he is occupied using it to fight against Marco.
 

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tbf, Beky wasn't that off with this assumption, it became so minor recently and it is so heavily outshined by other aspects of Haki right now

I feel the only chance to see some relevant shit is through some swordfighter or through a SHP gaining a CoO spike during their battles

A bit sad after all the hype on WCI, Luffy only utilized it at the beginning of Wano to toy with headliners and such.
 

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not really. pretty sure Sanji made a couple of COO-related feats in the Flower Capital. Luffy showcased this too in the present fight against the two Yonko. Zoro was able to feel the incoming Ocean Sovereignty by the 2 yonkos which could only be possible if he has advanced COO. One more thing, Luffy certainly used it when Kaido swung his Kanabou but the former stated how fast the execution was. So in essence, just because one uses COO in battle doesn't mean that faster attack speed won't hold weight. This is the exact manner how Luffy won against Katakuri's perfect FS, Snake Man was way too fast, the former couldn't hold much long.
 
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I just saw the theory video from Im D King, he said it makes sense most Strawhats will also learn Colours of Haki in this battle, especially Nico Robin and Sanji.

Tbf I can imagine Nami learning CoO too and together with Usopp they will be able to predict how P1 and Ulti function and counter them.
Imagine they need a single coordinated glass cannon attack and they take them out.
 
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