Powers & Abilities Momonosukes Powers//Another Ancient Weapon

[Nessos]

It is well known that Momonosukes power to hear and control Zunisha parallels the power of Shirahoshi who is able to hear and control Sea Kings.

Thats why I expect like many others he is an Ancient Weapon. If Momonosuke really ends up being an Ancient Weapon there actually 3 possibilities.

1. Uranus:
   The last missing Ancient Weapon
2. Hidden 4th Ancient Weapon:
   Names of Ancient Weapons represent the planets Pluto(Pluton), Neptun(Poseidon) and Uranus(Uranus). Thats why there exist theories about hidden Ancient Weapons representing Saturn and Jupiter, Momonosuke could be one of them.
3. Another Version of Poseidon:
   As already mentioned Momonosukes and Shirahoshis power are almost the same, this could be a hint for multiple Versions of Poseidon. There could be one for each sea! A fishman bloodline ablr to control beasts of the Dark Sea, a human bloodline able to control beasts of the Blue sea and winged man bloodline able to Control beast of the White Sea. Btw did you notice that Momonosuke and Shirahoshi even have the same colorsheme?
   
   
   
   
   

I know there are many who doubt Momonosuke is an Ancient Weapon, especially because his power is too similiar to Shirahoshis power, but they shoulddefinetly take a look for option 3.

For everyone who don't believe Momonosuke being an Ancient Weapon feel free to Post your ideas where Momonosukes Power come from. Here als 2 famous theories that got already debunked

Spoiler: debunked theories

1. Momonosuke is a real Dragon born from the giant which was in the Jolly Roger. So he could talk and hear Zunisha because he is a beast himself. Now in 966 we could see the Egg while Momonosuke was already born!
   
   
   (actually already debunked with introduction of Momonosukes sister or both of them Born as normal Kids in chapter 965, but you never know what Kind of proofs are needed )

What do you think?

 

[Lemonade]

I thought Oden could also talk to Zunisha? Isn't this based on a contract that Kozuki Family set many years ago?

I'm not following the Ancient Weapon theory if this is explained through Kozuki bloodline

 

[Nessos]

I thought Oden could also talk to Zunisha? Isn't this based on a contract that Kozuki Family set many years ago?

I'm not following the Ancient Weapon theory if this is explained through Kozuki bloodline

Shirahoshis ability is also explained through bloodline. What I mean is that the Kozuki Bloodline can be seen as Weapon like Bloodline of the legendary Memraid Princess.

It was mentioned that Oden and Roger could only hear the voice.

With this I would even go so far to say that Otohime was also able to hear the voices of the Sea Kings.

And there was never mentioned anything like a contract. Just that the Zou commited and as punishment he was ordered to walk around.

So basically Momonosukes ancestor(who also had this ability) ordered the elephant to only walk around.

 

[Trafalgar Law]

Well....i think the reason Roger decide to start the new era of pirates because mermaid princess wasn't born.
And another reason could b Momo who is another ancient weapon.
Both Momo and Shirahoshi have common power.
- Both have VOAT
- Both have ability to command ancient animals.

In my opinion those ancient weapon r special humans who can control creatures.
- Shirahoshi : Fish , Sea monsters
- Momo : Zou

The third one is Pluton . I believe that the copy Franky burned was first copy and the original one is still safe .
And i believe that it's in Giant's kingdom.

Let's think logically , Pluton is an ancient ship (weapon) powerful enough to destroy any country.
We have seen giant's pirate ship which was really big.
So they r the only one who had technology/knowledge to build giant ships...
What Franky and Ice burg did was inspired by Plutons blueprint.

 

[Nessos]

Both Momo and Shirahoshi have common power.
- Both have VOAT
- Both have ability to command ancient animals

I would their ability is only to command and hear certain Ancient Beast and not VOAT.I expect Momo is unable to hear Sea Kings and Shirahoshi is unable to hear Zou.

I mean in 966 where Roger was shown Hearing the Poneglyphs and Oden was Reading it is a big hint that Oden didn't have VOAT.

But he was still able to hear Zunisha.

Thats why I am pretty sure Oden had the same ability as Momonosuke(or a weaker version).

 

[Trafalgar Law]

I would their ability is only to command and hear certain Ancient Beast and not VOAT.I expect Momo is unable to hear Sea Kings and Shirahoshi is unable to hear Zou.

Yup it make sense :
Joy Boy - Roger - Luffy : VOAT
Mermaid Princess (Fishman) - Momo (Wano) - ? (Giant) : Ancient Weapons , more like people with ability to control ancient creatures

Oden - Robin : Can read ancient language.

 

[Nessos]

The third one is Pluton . I believe that the copy Franky burned was first copy and the original one is still safe .
And i believe that it's in Giant's kingdom.

Let's think logically , Pluton is an ancient ship (weapon) powerful enough to destroy any country.
We have seen giant's pirate ship which was really big.
So they r the only one who had technology/knowledge to build giant ships...
What Franky and Ice burg did was inspired by Plutons blueprint.

Thats actually an interisting idea. But big doesn't necessary means being able to destroy countries. A good example is Thrillerbark this ship is almost as big as a s all Island. Its big enough to carry multiple Giants like Oars.

So it could be indeed a technology created in Water 7 centuries ago.

 

[Waindo]

Whatever it is, if Zunisha joins the final war, damn....Enel gonna have some new company when Zunisha starts to slam them to the Moon with her trunk. XD

 

[Salah Eddine]

There is no Ability used here at all
Shirahoshi doesn't forcefully control Sea Beasts with an Ability, they simply obey her & ask for her commands
In other words, Sea Beasts chose to follow Shirahoshi, not the other way around

This proves to us that Sea Beasts since Ancient Time decided to cooperate with this Mermaid and they don't obey Fishmen Island or Royal Family or Poseidon's Family, they only obey who they chose (One during Void Century and another currently)
Basically, First Poseidon was a Mermaid and Ally of Ancient Kingdom who successfully gained respect & help of Sea Kings
(This was hinted in Impel Down Arc where Crocodile found it weird how Jinbe can communicate with Whale Sharks and command them, something no other Fishmen like him can do, and this is Oda explaining to us what i just said)

Ancient Weapon is just a Name given by WG to forbid People from seeking them or learning about them
Because let's be honest, does Poseidon seem to you like a Weapon created for Mass Destruction ?
As far as i can tell, First Poseidon commanded Sea Beasts to take Noah & Fishmen to Surface but something stopped them (Obviously WG)
And that's why Joy Boy wrote an Apology

So after that Promise was no more, Sea Kings decided to help fulfill it another time when it's right with another worthy Mermaid
And same thing applies for Zunisha, it's obviously waiting for something, and Momo didn't control it or anything, Zunisha simply asked for his command and it obeyed

What i'm trying to say is that these Creatures simply choose who to follow, who to like, & Poseidon, Momo & Jinbe were just Examples
Oda hinted at this concept with Laboon first who decided to follow Rumbar Pirates and do as they say

Conclusion:

Sea Kings & Zunisha are simply Waiting and have a Promise/Command to fulfill and they choose who to Obey
The one who commands Sea Kings is named Poseidon and their Aim is peaceful, but due to how Powerful Sea Kings are and what they can do, WG named Poseidon an Ancient Weapon and forbid everyone to study Poneglyphs or seek their Weapons
Zunisha is basically same case as Sea Kings, it's just that he wasn't named Ancient Weapon and he was smaller than this 1000 years ago most probably

Oda hinted at this many times with Laboon, Whale Sharks ..... etc Nola too is a Major example
Even others like that Dog from Buggy Arc (His Owner is like First Poseidon, that Store he is protecting is like Fishmen Island & Noah, and Luffy is like Shirahoshi, and don't forget that Dog didn't obey his Owner's Friends or any of the Village, but he respected and helped Luffy)
Same thing for Rare Animals & Gaimon

So as you can see, it's no Ability, it's just Promises & Commands & Help & Obedience
The reasons for these Creatures to follow a certain someone varies ofc
And Sea Kings/Poseidon are simply considered Ancient Weapon due to how Dangerous they can be

 

[Nessos]

There is no Ability used here at all
Shirahoshi doesn't forcefully control Sea Beasts with an Ability, they simply obey her & ask for her commands
In other words, Sea Beasts chose to follow Shirahoshi, not the other way around

This proves to us that Sea Beasts since Ancient Time decided to cooperate with this Mermaid and they don't obey Fishmen Island or Royal Family or Poseidon's Family, they only obey who they chose (One during Void Century and another currently)
Basically, First Poseidon was a Mermaid and Ally of Ancient Kingdom who successfully gained respect & help of Sea Kings
(This was hinted in Impel Down Arc where Crocodile found it weird how Jinbe can communicate with Whale Sharks and command them, something no other Fishmen like him can do, and this is Oda explaining to us what i just said)

Ancient Weapon is just a Name given by WG to forbid People from seeking them or learning about them
Because let's be honest, does Poseidon seem to you like a Weapon created for Mass Destruction ?
As far as i can tell, First Poseidon commanded Sea Beasts to take Noah & Fishmen to Surface but something stopped them (Obviously WG)
And that's why Joy Boy wrote an Apology

So after that Promise was no more, Sea Kings decided to help fulfill it another time when it's right with another worthy Mermaid
And same thing applies for Zunisha, it's obviously waiting for something, and Momo didn't control it or anything, Zunisha simply asked for his command and it obeyed

What i'm trying to say is that these Creatures simply choose who to follow, who to like, & Poseidon, Momo & Jinbe were just Examples
Oda hinted at this concept with Laboon first who decided to follow Rumbar Pirates and do as they say

Conclusion:

Sea Kings & Zunisha are simply Waiting and have a Promise/Command to fulfill and they choose who to Obey
The one who commands Sea Kings is named Poseidon and their Aim is peaceful, but due to how Powerful Sea Kings are and what they can do, WG named Poseidon an Ancient Weapon and forbid everyone to study Poneglyphs or seek their Weapons
Zunisha is basically same case as Sea Kings, it's just that he wasn't named Ancient Weapon and he was smaller than this 1000 years ago most probably

Oda hinted at this many times with Laboon, Whale Sharks ..... etc Nola too is a Major example
Even others like that Dog from Buggy Arc (His Owner is like First Poseidon, that Store he is protecting is like Fishmen Island & Noah, and Luffy is like Shirahoshi, and don't forget that Dog didn't obey his Owner's Friends or any of the Village, but he respected and helped Luffy)
Same thing for Rare Animals & Gaimon

So as you can see, it's no Ability, it's just Promises & Commands & Help & Obedience
The reasons for these Creatures to follow a certain someone varies ofc
And Sea Kings/Poseidon are simply considered Ancient Weapon due to how Dangerous they can be

I think its clear that neither Shirahoshi nor Momonosuke are weapons which were created. Shirahoshis ability is an ability given through bloodline, so her bloodline is seen as weapon. And for me it doesn't seem like the Sea Kings choose to listen her, more like she awakened that ability and Sea Kings can't obey her orders.

It also fits with Otohimes explanation.

Otherwise it would be like the whales choose to only listen to Neptune and Shirahoshi (About Jinbei I would say His ability is slightly below Neptune, but not close to Shirahoshi).Thats why I won't compare it to the Dog and his owner in Orange Town or Gambit and the rare beasts.


And about Momonosukes case we also learned that also Oden was able to hear Zunisha without having VOAT, which makes Momonosukes ability for me a bloodline related ability.
Also that Zunisha is Wanderung around was not a promised it was a punishment.

Thats why I assume that Zous Order came from someone with the ability which Momonosuke have now and that this happened centuries ago by an ancestor und of Momonosuke.

The question is now can Momonosukes ability considered as Ancient Weapon same as Shirahoshis ability? I mean Zou could easily handle a while fllet. And if it is an Ancient Weapon could it be that it is Uranus? Or another hidden Ancient Weapon? Or maybe just another version of Poseidon?

The last one comes true there might be even more then just 2 Poseidons.

 

[Ghidorah Guy]

Some possibilities that've crossed my mind

1) It's something he directly inherited from his mom, who's lying about her origins and age; she is either the child or grandchild of, if not THE Mermaid Princess from Joyboy's era. Notice how her boots clash with her Wano-style clothing in her intro? Methinks she's hiding some flipper-looking feet similar to those of Kawamatsu's mom.

Momo's ability to command giant land animals can probably be attributed to a mutation, combination, variant, whatever of the Poseidon gene/factor/blahblah and Oden's human blood.

2) The original inhabitants of Wano were a bunch of non-humans akin to yokai, with Oars-type oni in particular having created and ruled Wano in the beginning. The Kozuki are somehow blood-related to the line of Oars oni, who possessed the power to command the Land Kings or Behemoths of the Earth. Most of the Oars clan and Behemoths such as the Zunisha-type elephants have been wiped out, so legend of their threat and power has sputtered with the passage of time. Wano's long isolation likewise contributed.

3) It's entirely due to Toki's lineage, she herself being the lovechild or grandchild of Joyboy ( an oni or oni-human hybrid) and the Mermaid Princess of his time ( an actual Dragon or Dragon-type Mermaid ). As it turns out, the people of Fishman Island once lived in close proximity to Wano prior to some possible breakdown in the relationship between the two kingdoms and/or respective monarchs. Their failed union references the famous legend of Toyotama Hime the undersea dragon princess from early Japanese lore, as well as that of the similar Urashima Taro tales to a lesser extent.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyotama-hime

Same deal as it pertains to Momo's ability in Possibility # 1: Toki got a mutated, land-based form of Poseidon's ability from her parents and passed it along to Momo.


Something along those lines, I dunno.

I will say this: could be Momo won't be the only one manifesting some funky powers.

Hiyori aside, there's probably some sky-related equivalent that allows one to control the Kings of the Sky ( the third member of the unholy Trinity that includes Leviathan and Behemoth, the giant bird/gryphon Ziz ).

That egg on Roger's ship? It's the egg of a giant Roc, like the one from Romance Dawn only ridonk larger. Where is it now? Probably nesting somewhere atop the World Tree of Elbaf, thus playing the role of the Giant Eagle from the Norse myths.

Who'd possess the power to command such a bird? Probably Vivi.

 

[Nessos]

Yup it make sense :
Joy Boy - Roger - Luffy : VOAT
Mermaid Princess (Fishman) - Momo (Wano) - ? (Giant) : Ancient Weapons , more like people with ability to control ancient creatures

Oden - Robin : Can read ancient language.

Looks like I was wrong about Oden, he was also able to hear the Sea Kings.
So Momo should have VOAT and should be able to heat the Sea Kings too.

Now there are 3 questions

1. is Momos power only related to Zou or can he also control Sea Kings?
2. Does Shirahoshi also have VOAT or is it an extended version of the fischman ability to be able to talk to and control fishes?
   (Like Neptun beong the only fishman besides Shirahoshi able to talk to and control whales)
3. Will Luffy also awaken the ability to control soḿething?

Who'd possess the power to command such a bird? Probably Vivi.

How do you think about Aisa? Could it be VOAT instead of her being an ultimate CoO talent?