Current Events Perospero and Marco or Perospero and Devon

[Don FrankyG]

Hey quys,

Small speculation involving Perospero and Marco who we saw entering Onigashima together in the latest chapter.

Now I could be reading to much into this since we know Perospero was heading towards Onigashima and Marco had left for a bit to check out a suspicious shadow.

Hence it could very well be possible that Marco spotted Perospero at sea and either chased him to Onigashima or decided to team up for the moment.

My main problems with this are the following however:
1. We saw Perospero wanting revenge on King, Strawhat and Marco, so I doubt they would ally themselves that quickly.

2. If Marco was chasing Perospero then how did he arive at the Front Gate? Marco could basically attack him all the way from where he was at sea.

This set me thinking, since when I first read about Marco seeing a suspicious shadow at sea I instantly thought of Moria because I believe he will show up in Wano because his back-story is linked to Kaido.

We however saw Moria not on Wano (as of yet) but on beehive Island to find Absalom because he feared that his ability was taken by the Blackbeard pirates. This turned out to be correct and it is Shiryu of the Rain that now has the clear-clear fruit.

After rereading this chapter I came across this panel where Blackbeard invites Moria to come sail under his flag:

We also get to see Moria, Shyriu and Devon when Blackbeard talks about Wano and Big Mom

So basically my idea goes like this, what if it isn't Marco that we are seeing but instead its Perospero and Devon? We found out that Devon has a mystical Zoan fruit that allows her to change her appearance.

It might even be possible, if Devon is pretending to be Marco there, that Shyriu is at the front gate aswell, since he can turn invisible now.

For this to work we need a couple of other points however.

First a reason for Perospero to betray Big Mom and ally himself with the Blackbeard pirates.

We actually might have gotten a small hint towards this when Big Mom fell off the ship after King knocked it down the Waterfall.

The second would be how Devon managed to transform into Marco, how her DF works. We got two possible hints towards this:
The first could have something to do with corpses?

It might be similar to Bon-Chan's ability in that she needs to touch the person she wants to change into. She mentioned to Moria that she still had Absalom's corpse even after his ability was taken by Shyriu.

The only other possibility I found was that small panel where Neko trew the message of Marco into the sea because it was not longer needed.

This message was unnecessary since Marco showed up around the same time as the Strawhats. So why did Oda add it into the story and show Neko trowing it away? If i'm not reading to far into this it could have been something that Devon needs to change into Marco, for example anything that somebody has touched like clothes or bottles or in this case a piece of paper.

Again, this might all be nothing that will be disproved in the next chapters but there are some things that are mentioned about the Big Mom pirates in Wano that don't really add up.

It all started with the Big Mom Pirates coming to Wano to hint down the Strawhats. They travelled up the waterfall but were knocked away by King. Big Mom fell into the water and was later found by Chopper where she had the whole amnesia thing untill Udon, where she was transported to Kaido and someway they teamed up. That's all good but what about her crew?

Well after Big Mom was knocked away they later learned about the alliance with Kaido, and still deciding on going after Luffy they travelled up the Waterfall a second time.

Again they were knocked off, but this time by Marco who mentioned something about the next time they showed up the times would have moved on.

However the next panels we get are a bit weird. First we have Queen saying that there are special quests in the house, Big Mom's children

And next we get Big Mom saying that she has been in touched and the ship is fine and they'll be arriving soon.

Perospero however didn't seem to be on the ship, and instead was heading to Onigashima on a candy sea thingy.

Which brings me back to my first point. What exactly is happening at the front gate with Marco and Perospero?

Am I reading to much into this and is it just Marco either having teamed up with Perospero or is chasing him into Onigashima.

Or, could I be right about my suspicions and was Marco actually taken out by the Devon/Shyriu/Moria trio who work now under blackbeard and teamed up with Perospero. (I doubt Oda would kill of Marco offscreen so lets instead say Moria is delaying him at sea(because we don't seem him), while Devon transformed into Marco and together with Perospero and an invisble Shiryu is now at the front gate)

Lemme know what you think!

(not sure if to tag this as a theory since it could be disproven in one or two chapters, so instead put it under current events

 

[Nessos]

I like the idea, but there is one tiny detail why I doubt it.

We see Marco appearing in Semi-Zoan form.
Not saying it is Impossible but I doubt Devon copies DF powers (otherwise it would be too overpowered)

 

[Don FrankyG]

I like the idea, but there is one tiny detail why I doubt it.

We see Marco appearing in Semi-Zoan form.
Not saying it is Impossible but I doubt Devon copies DF powers (otherwise it would be too overpowered)

Ye that would be to broken! I'm half convinced i;m reading to much into it but lets say for the sake of argument that it is Devon, would it be beyond her to copy flames? Not to say they have the healing power that Marco has but more so the appaerance of flames(not even the heat for example) She did manage to copy not only Absalom's appearance but also his clothes so I'm not sure

Let me add to that the fact that she has a mythical fox fruit I believe, and we have kineman the firefox that can transform clothes, hmm

 

[Nessos]

She did manage to copy not only Absalom's appearance but also his clothes so I'm not sure

Let me add to that the fact that she has a mythical fox fruit I believe, and we have kineman the firefox that can transform clothes, hmm

Lets list possible advantages of Devons fruit (compared to Mane Mane no Mi)

• Besides the power of Mane Mane no Mi also the typical physical boost any Zoan grants
• Transforming also changing clothes
• Never mentioned touching is needed

I think this is powerful enough.

But we don't know her limits of transformation. Is it human only? Does have to be a 1:1 copy?

As I mentioned it is not Impossible but I doubt it.

 

[Don FrankyG]

Lets list possible advantages of Devons fruit (compared to Mane Mane no Mi)

• Besides the power of Mane Mane no Mi also the typical physical boost any Zoan grants
• Transforming also changing clothes
• Never mentioned touching is needed

I think this is powerful enough.

Ye I reckon those are the extras/limitations. I think in Japenese Folklore its mainly used as a fox that transforms into a beautiful young lady, tempts the man somewhere, and then runs away with his clothes orso.

But we don't know her limits of transformation. Is it human only? Does have to be a 1:1 copy?

Doubt it's human only. basically her zoan form should be a fox so makes sense if she can change from fox to human appareance it can go from fox to other animals aswell. Fire is a bit much tho as you stated earlier.

As I mentioned it is not Impossible but I doubt it.

Same. Just wanted to get my thoughts out there since I'm still waiting for Moria's ass to show up and hopefully add some stuff to the Florian Triangle theory I made. Hence when Marco mentioned suspicious shadow I got excited but was a bit let down with the recent chapter. I do wonder why Oda added that stuff with Marco's message however since he could have easily left it out which got my started on this idea

 

[Rej]

Interesting thought, I just would wonder what would happen with the real Marco
it is true that Devon might have touched Marco or any WB commander during the Payback War

 

[Nessos]

it is true that Devon might have touched

Devon doesn't have the Mane Mane no Mi.
I doubt she need to touch, but can transform in whatever she wants.
Might sound op comparism with Mane Mane no Mi, but I think the advantage of Mane Mane no Mi is that it turns you into an exact copy while Devons fruit is limited by imagination.

Example: "What happened to your birthmark?"
-> Devon fucked up cause she didn't know about so a hidden birthmark might be missing
-> Doesn't matter if Bon knew about it or not, he would have copied it cause Mane Mane no Mi creates an exact copy


But this gives also the possibility of Devon turning into the Hybrid Marco.
But she definetly won't be able to switch between human, hybrid and zoan without turning back into the fox in between.

 

[joby]

I like the idea, but there is one tiny detail why I doubt it.

We see Marco appearing in Semi-Zoan form.
Not saying it is Impossible but I doubt Devon copies DF powers (otherwise it would be too overpowered)

Hmm I don’t think it could be too overpowered, there could be all kinds of restrictions we wouldn’t know about yet.

dang. I gotta say @Don FrankyG this is killer. I’m sold.

 

[Don FrankyG]

it is true that Devon might have touched Marco or any WB commander during the Payback War

I think it might be touched based but we can't be sure she had this power already during the Payback War. If the speculation is correct I'm more leaning towards either the note from Marco that Neko threw into the sea or that Marco got taken out/captured when he went to check out the suspicious shadow.

Devon doesn't have the Mane Mane no Mi.
I doubt she need to touch, but can transform in whatever she wants.

It could be similar towards the Mane Mane, I reread Alabasta and one of the weaknesses of the Mane Mane is that the user cant use the abilities he/she originally had. For example Bon-chan had to turn back to himself if he wanted to use Okama Kenpo.

Might sound op comparism with Mane Mane no Mi, but I think the advantage of Mane Mane no Mi is that it turns you into an exact copy while Devons fruit is limited by imagination.

Example: "What happened to your birthmark?"
-> Devon fucked up cause she didn't know about so a hidden birthmark might be missing
-> Doesn't matter if Bon knew about it or not, he would have copied it cause Mane Mane no Mi creates an exact copy

Hmm this makes sense, similar to how Bon-chan copied Nami's hidden goodies without being able to check it out

 

[Lemonade]

I doubt devon can transform into hybrid zoan users

 

[Ranger]

wow that's really interesting!

Only problem I have is that Marco has been acting pretty normal and to how I would expect him to act so far

he even attacked Perospero beforehand so it would be weird for them to just team up all the sudden

probably Perospero is getting chased by Marco and THAT would also explain why neither of them have made an apperance in the main hall yet: because they are fighting outside

 

[Ghidorah Guy]

Just wanted to chime in by saying I wouldn't give up on this theory just yet. I'm pretty sure Oda's modus operandi going forward is going to consist of validating several fan theories altogether in some form, albeit probably not in the way originally envisioned; there'd be a core underlying philosophy to all this.

Devon posing as Marco is something I've suspected as well. While I don't think that's necessarily currently the case, doesn't mean I don't think think it'll happen at some later point. Call it another instance of Oda...postponing certain developments.

But yes, I shared a lot of your thoughts, DonFranky. Nine-tailed Foxes are known for their foxfire and powers of illusion, so it could serve to explain how Devon could hypothetically manage to ostensibly simulate Marco's powers on some level, using her own "special" flames.

As to any potential ability to not only mimic appearances but powers as well, I wouldn't generally consider it too OP, provided some caveats are set in place, e.g. time limits, power level restrictions, and what not. Besides, these are the Blackbeard Pirates, the EOS Final Bosses...being OP, at least on paper, like their captain is what their style and the story calls for. Just means the Strawhats are going to take some upcoming harsh lessons to heart and really commit to becoming a Yonko-class crew, probably the most formidable of them all. They better, cause the BB's advantages aren't going to simply end with any one fruit, even a seemingly OP one.

Back to Marco, I think right now it's a case of a certain surprise villain having hypnotized him into getting involved in a more passive way , but a certain running gag will develop where every appearance of his gest the side eye treatment from fans and later even the characters themselves due to a cloud of shenanigans looming over lol. Devon posing as him is def something I see happening in the future.

Or who knows? Perhaps there is both an imposter and the real, albeit mesmerized true blue Marco flying about Wano right now? I do find it strange that Queen and King both seem to being having trouble physically affecting Marco, with Queen seemingly having no idea how his powers work or how to counter them w/ haki. I'm calling bullshit there. Either this is the real Marco demonstrating some major finessed skill upgrades w/ regards to his powers, or it could simply be a case of some form of illusory, mind-altering psychosomatic hijincks at play; perhaps Devon holds power over some Flames of Illusion?

In any case, I don't see the Blackbeard Pirates being outed just yet or making a formal appearance by the end of the battle just yet. More likely they and certain other outside parties may make their presence felt at some later stage, after having helped slightly sabotage Kaido and Big Mom as part of some longer term scheme. If so, I would expect "Marco" and Prometheus and "Marco" n King to cross paths again, with new emphasis to be placed on their curious interactions.