[FIN] Traditional Mafia Round 15: Reverse Mafia
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Can i still switch votes? If so Vote Lynch T-pein @A famous historian
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VOTE COUNT AS OF POST #279
Gambit -"Smiley" - "Juice"
T-pein "Juice"
Fuji - Juice
Rej -"egg man" "Juice" - "two dimes" - "Juice" - T-"Tucker" - Pein
Ekkologix-"Bags" - T-"tucker" Pein
Mango -"egg man" - ''Two dimes'' -T-"Tucker" Pein
Mango "Juice" Senpai - IV (3)
T-"Tucker" Pein - II (3)
No vote - III (3)
Juliet - Juliet "Fairy Godmother"
Pepper - Pepper "Bags"
Mango -"egg man" - ''Two dimes''
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Gambit -
T-pein "Juice"
Fuji - Juice
Rej -
Ekkologix-
Mango -
Mango "Juice" Senpai - IV (3)
T-"Tucker" Pein - II (3)
No vote - III (3)
Juliet - Juliet "Fairy Godmother"
Pepper - Pepper "Bags"
Mango -
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Like less than a minute = (
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Bolded my vote.
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You know why.
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Noted the bold.
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VOTE COUNT AS OF POST #285
Gambit -"Smiley" - "Juice"
T-pein "Juice"
Fuji -Juice - T-"tucker" Pein
Rej -"egg man" "Juice" - "two dimes" - "Juice" - T-"Tucker" - Pein
Ekkologix-"Bags" - T-"tucker" Pein
Mango -"egg man" - ''Two dimes'' -T-"Tucker" Pein
Mango "Juice" Senpai - II (2)
T-"Tucker" Pein - IV (4)
No vote - II (2)
Juliet - Juliet "Fairy Godmother"
Pepper - Pepper "Bags"
Does this look right guys, did I miss ones vote?
(EDIT of DAY 3: Fixed the part where I had mango as a no vote)
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VOTE COUNT AS OF POST #285
Gambit -
T-pein "Juice"
Fuji -
Rej -
Ekkologix-
Mango -
Mango "Juice" Senpai - II (2)
T-"Tucker" Pein - IV (4)
No vote - II (2)
Juliet - Juliet "Fairy Godmother"
Pepper - Pepper "Bags"
Does this look right guys, did I miss ones vote?
(EDIT of DAY 3: Fixed the part where I had mango as a no vote)
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He was not the scum you were looking for
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Town had decided that T-"Tucker'' Pein was fishy. Too fishy. Perhaps then it was time to send him on a trip to meet his pisces friends. The group reassured him that all would be well and that they would be back in time for Tucker Carlson Tonight. Reassured he went on the lake with his closest friend. Somewhere the middle of the lake, the second person on the boat said "town sends their best regards." The shot was fired, his body dropped on the boat and was cast overboard. As his body rolled over, his wallet fell in the hull. The killer smiled, thinking there was a police badge, but alas, he was mistaken.
Back on shore, he meet his fellow mobsters who said "so....?" and when they asked why he was pale and shaking, the killer slowly handed over the wallet, opened to his driver's license.
@T-Pein™ has been whacked by town.
Drum roll.........
He was a simple associate.
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He ain't gonna smile no more.
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As @Rej was walking, he was kidnapped by the rats. They promised to take him somewhere for interrogation about his murders and who was going to be next. But "smiley" said that no one was on his list with a smirk. "hey, we will wipe that smirk off yo'r face" they said and than a bang was hear and "smiley" was no more.
@Rej "Smiley" has been whacked.
He was the two-shots vig.
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Why not TPein or Ussop?
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Not Pein, Mango I mean.
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See here. Mango was leading the wagon yesterday because an obvious attempt to save a buddy before eod occurred when I am mostly inactive due to work schedule. Who led that counter wagon to get rid of Pein was none other than Ussop.
So my vote goes.off of him
Vote whack Ussop
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Oh well I trolled the 50-50 there didn't I huh? Well sorry fam but your play was kinda abysmal imo @T-Pein™ lmao
Now back to [vote whack pepper] @A famous historian
Alright let's go over this one slowly here guys, please pay attention till the end.
@Gambit @Rej @Mango Senpai @Juliet you guys are practically town in my book from your ISOs. Though a bit iffy on Juliet, your posts do still look to actually move the game forward (with a bit of worrisome parroting by Juliet). WP if any of ya flips scum, but you're my town pool for now.
I do apologize for my inactivity the past 2 days but the game was pretty slow and easy to ISO thankfully.
We yeet Fuji/Pepper and we r done here. Let's at the very least actually pressure them while I entertain you on why they are the rats we are looking for.
I already went over pepper's ISO last phase. He/she has absolutely no content but mechanical talk, then talk about jester and past games with added poor reaction to T-pein's 'gut' read. There is not a single bit of game solving in their posts and I would really appreciate it if you guys would share their meta with me or lemme know if they are new player or not. I messed up in trying to find their scummate yesterday and did not properly ISO Fuji, but now that ISO'ed him carefully I can see this: (Please try to follow it all)
This is NAI yes, but having a wrong idea about the setup ruins town's perception of lylo and vote tracking. Painting that idea onto others is horrible, specially relating it to a different game. Also noting the fact that he never plays or game solve toward this idea to begin with.
This is what I call fake content. He has to pretend to be contributing and this is the best he could come up with at that current time.
Town!Fuji's play here would be to look more into Mango's jump on him and take that interaction whole heartedly and expand on it instead of run away from it.
Basically it is pretty poor to just keep the vote laying on me like that for no apparent reason given how he avoided talking about it and avoided interactions with others, and avoided partaking in the day 1 lynch whatsoever. The lynch that had Nessos, Mango, Gambit as wagon. All 3 town.
It's almost funny how nothing in the game interests him but an afk player (me).
This is bad, pretty bad. Screams wolf here.
Says he's going to catch up but nothing of value is said after that. Very poor post. He caught up but never actually said anything.
Painting Udell's death on Mango, and does not consider any other possibilities of Mango being framed.
I regret not reading this ISO properly last day honestly. This is pretty wolfy play here. His vote on Mango was placed very easily with a pretty ridiculously linear reason that he never actually bothered expanding on.
He never suspected Mango at any point in the game prior to this either so this sudden vote is extremely horrid, special given how his suspicion on me on the entirety of day 1 is magically gone on day 2 without me making a single post.
Not to mention this part of his post "Wait a sec, rats can kill 2 people or was there a vig kill as well as a rat kill?" looks extremely forced and fake. Does not add anything to the game.
This is just the ultimate inconsistency here right now. And even added an activity excuse to it.
GET THIS RAT OUTTA HERE GUYS!!!
And look at this part of his post: "he wanted Mango out, he also wanted Peper out i think?"
This is the kinda posts where you mention your scummate for a small bus but never actually bother pushing them. Instead he is so adamant on Mango and only actually swaps to T-pein, all while providing absolutely no tangible case on either. He will not swap to pepper.
I know I messed it up a bit with the T-pein wagon yesterday, but if none has a better lead other than Fuji/Pepper, they should be our yeet for today. If anyone has some other suggestions I am open for them, but they should be ready to defend their opinions and cases please.
Now back to [vote whack pepper] @A famous historian
Alright let's go over this one slowly here guys, please pay attention till the end.
@Gambit @Rej @Mango Senpai @Juliet you guys are practically town in my book from your ISOs. Though a bit iffy on Juliet, your posts do still look to actually move the game forward (with a bit of worrisome parroting by Juliet). WP if any of ya flips scum, but you're my town pool for now.
I do apologize for my inactivity the past 2 days but the game was pretty slow and easy to ISO thankfully.
We yeet Fuji/Pepper and we r done here. Let's at the very least actually pressure them while I entertain you on why they are the rats we are looking for.
I already went over pepper's ISO last phase. He/she has absolutely no content but mechanical talk, then talk about jester and past games with added poor reaction to T-pein's 'gut' read. There is not a single bit of game solving in their posts and I would really appreciate it if you guys would share their meta with me or lemme know if they are new player or not. I messed up in trying to find their scummate yesterday and did not properly ISO Fuji, but now that ISO'ed him carefully I can see this: (Please try to follow it all)
Meh opener vote on me. I don't even recall actually reacting to it. He choses me out of 4 other inactives at that time (being me, Juliet, Pepper, and Rej). Again this isn't too bad for reaction purposes, but he never went back to it.Vote Whack Milkshake Dino
The family gave you everything and this is how you repay us?
Zero content post.
Going for reactions again here from the looks for it. Reactions that he never comes back to, to the point where the post becomes nothing but meaningless fluff. That's 3 of them now.
Painting this horrid troll idea of 3-8 when this setup is 99.99% a 2-9 setup, given how there is a vig.
This is NAI yes, but having a wrong idea about the setup ruins town's perception of lylo and vote tracking. Painting that idea onto others is horrible, specially relating it to a different game. Also noting the fact that he never plays or game solve toward this idea to begin with.
This is what I call fake content. He has to pretend to be contributing and this is the best he could come up with at that current time.
This isnt REALLY a TMI case on him. I mean, I still call town town and scum scum so yeah, nothing wrong with this really. It simply happens since this is an unusual setup, so this is NAI for now.
Buddying super hard with @Mango Senpai here.
A slick way to avoid that interaction, given how he mentioned not wanting to comment much on it now, but agrees it is weird. It reads like he wants to just cut it off right here. He wouldn't wanna tunnel too deep on Mango early on because he knows Mango is town. So instead buddies Mango and runs away from an interaction with him.
Town!Fuji's play here would be to look more into Mango's jump on him and take that interaction whole heartedly and expand on it instead of run away from it.
I am mostly inactive so this a pretty weak push with no actual resistance or reaction from me and he knows that. Again just faked content all together. No actual scum hunting whatsoever. ;/
, are those your last words?
Im a wolf. And honestly my vote is on you rn
You see it was day 1 so this stuff can sometimes get a pass. Hardcore fluff and no case whatsoever on his vote. Best u can get here is reactions but he never came back to it later on to push me for a reaction he obtained, because there really was none, and that was not his goal to begin with. That was a fluff vote, not a reaction vote. Period.
Basically it is pretty poor to just keep the vote laying on me like that for no apparent reason given how he avoided talking about it and avoided interactions with others, and avoided partaking in the day 1 lynch whatsoever. The lynch that had Nessos, Mango, Gambit as wagon. All 3 town.
Hmm still goes back to me again here.
Well well well, lemme catch up to everything.
Was Usopp a bit more active btw?
It's almost funny how nothing in the game interests him but an afk player (me).
This is bad, pretty bad. Screams wolf here.
Says he's going to catch up but nothing of value is said after that. Very poor post. He caught up but never actually said anything.
Big oof here.
Painting Udell's death on Mango, and does not consider any other possibilities of Mango being framed.
I regret not reading this ISO properly last day honestly. This is pretty wolfy play here. His vote on Mango was placed very easily with a pretty ridiculously linear reason that he never actually bothered expanding on.
He never suspected Mango at any point in the game prior to this either so this sudden vote is extremely horrid, special given how his suspicion on me on the entirety of day 1 is magically gone on day 2 without me making a single post.
Not to mention this part of his post "Wait a sec, rats can kill 2 people or was there a vig kill as well as a rat kill?" looks extremely forced and fake. Does not add anything to the game.
Says to look into the people Udell did NOT want out, but votes Mango, who Udell wanted out THE MOST.
This is just the ultimate inconsistency here right now. And even added an activity excuse to it.
GET THIS RAT OUTTA HERE GUYS!!!
Another back to back activity excuse here.
And look at this part of his post: "he wanted Mango out, he also wanted Peper out i think?"
This is the kinda posts where you mention your scummate for a small bus but never actually bother pushing them. Instead he is so adamant on Mango and only actually swaps to T-pein, all while providing absolutely no tangible case on either. He will not swap to pepper.
I know I messed it up a bit with the T-pein wagon yesterday, but if none has a better lead other than Fuji/Pepper, they should be our yeet for today. If anyone has some other suggestions I am open for them, but they should be ready to defend their opinions and cases please.
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What is this about a poor reaction to a gut read?
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Eh? Dam, how are u certain I am town?
Why do you think the stupid scums killed off Rej? He's claimed 2 shots vig and no other powers left rather than his ehem rather pointless reads?
Yes, Fuji lacked content most of the phases but Pepper here rolls the same. Where's the iso on him?
And Where's the stuff re Mango? You barely focused on the latter to be honest.
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Ok let's take this from my PoV and say that this person votes me for 2 days in a row and tells others to lynch me, but never actually bothers make a proper case. Calls it a "gut" read. First thing I do will be to ask them gut read based on what? is it my activity? my meta? my tone? my post contents? There has to be some basis for what's called "gut reads".
You on the other hand here just avoided talking with T-pein all together, except for one post where you just discredited him and that's it. You then proceeded to coast out the remaining time while not caring who gets lynched or who is being suspected.
I really don't know how you play as town, but your play right now just reeks of this "leave me alone" gameplay. It could get you pretty far to just sit on the sidelines and watch town destroy themselves, but eventually someone has to stop this madness and actually look into you guys. So you are going to have to talk yourself out of this properly and tell me why we should not lynch you today. Give us one reason to keep you in the game right now.
I am like 99% certain you are town. I don't sense wolf gameplay from your day 1 and 2 posts at all, hence why I wanted to sheep you in them. And your day 1 vote was not to save your life. You could of easily hammered Nessos/Mango if you wanted but you didn't.
Again WP by you if you are actually mafia here, but I really don't see a world where you could be scum. I can't find possible scummates for you right now. Maybe pepper but she's a common factor for everyone. Only worrisome thing is how are you so vocal yet wolves let you survive this long? Your gameplay is slowing down a bit end of day 2 which is a bit scary, but nothing to yeet you for (yet).
I had an ISO on pepper yesterday. I basically wanted him/her and T-pein yesterday, but went for T-pein hence the problem with the 50-50. My posts about pepper are in the thread.
Mango's claim is pretty believable. For one, I had a similar role in the reverse mafia on NF. I was immune to vig shots and the Godfather. And for 2, his posts are much much much better than Fuji/T-pein/pepper
If you want me to dissect his posts for you I can do so. It's just there are alot of them so will be a long post.
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Ekkologix looked like to me he is solving the game. I'm also a bit paranoid he could be scum because at the weeb game he also looked like he was solving the game which made me town read him but he turned out to be scum in the end. I have also been wondering on why Ekkologix saved Mango from getting lynched and I find this weird scum would want to save a player from getting lynched.
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Whenever I see a player try to save someone from getting lynched I always think it comes from town.
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Ok Jules. We have beem scum buddies for like dozens of times and your play here is pretty similar. I can sense it. You barely touched anyone in the game but Pepper - if any, please enlighten me. So I was woandering if maybe you are afraid to go against the others due to the possibilty of talking more and slipping? Please enlighten me for old time sake. And again, why not see the possibility of Ussop saving Mango before eod. I mean... THE TIMING!!!!!!!
You're 99% I am town? But you were questioning Rej why he kept ignoring me whereas he actually didn't. We were going nose to nose with each other most of the game.
You also didn't buy his claim when it was already pretty obvious. It looked geniune and he was not gonna lie on that. Mafia day killer? Come on. Lololol. Uou know better. And you didn't directly answer why you think your team went to kill Rej instead? Is he a threat that he may solve he game?
Now let's go on your attack against Fuji. I mean, it was pre drafted right? You had prepared to lynch him and will try to buy you notion but it was one way. You hand picked his posts and paint it black so he would look bad when in all honesty, there are a lot of substanceless posts coming from you as well
You don't have to have my approval in isoing Mango, if you were true to hunting him, you woild have done so but instead you went to Fuji
@Juliet @Fujitora @Pepper
One of you has to claim. It's almost mylo
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What?! I don't get it. LOLOLOL. Are you seriously stating this?
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Well the only argument about me being scum would be me trying to save Mango, else it wouldn't make sense
So the issue with this is Mango globally scum read right now? There was none else wanting to save him yesterday, and I know I am town. So from my PoV, Mango has to also to be town.
I town read you now Juliet, but you are honestly pretty low effort this game. I am really skeptical about you right now to be honest. Your paranoia is making me give you town read but you are a good player and could be faking it too so I am getting worried here. Your iso had alot of parroting of others which is honestly not looking good for you, but you make good points every now and then.
Thing is now I would like you and @Gambit and @Mango Senpai to actually give me their current town reads and thoughts on Fuji/Pepper. Lets start from there.
Also this could sound a bity WIFOM-ish, but the scum team kill choices is weird. Rej clearly said he was vig shot that lost all his shots. He is basically a generic right now. Their is a big risk of a watcher/tracker being in this game so scum killing a generic Rej looks odd to me. It's as if they aren't paying the game that much attention or aren't invested enough in power roles hunting.
What if there was a watcher/tracker that saw scum kill Rej? that was hella risky of a kill honestly.
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Their gut read was after my very first post. I figured they were more so trying to get a reaction so I dismissed it. Iirc they even mentioned some bait of some kind working later that day phase.
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