[FIN] Traditional Mafia Round 4 - Crazy Noisy Bizarre Town

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I can suicide as I please if the "towncore" is not even trying to read me lol. Also please stop with the asspull long defensive wallposts.
Also to your question before: I had trust in the doctor not to doctor you, but it was quite a 50/50 thing. First you beg me to vote with you and then you put me on the bottom of your rainbow as final post of the DP. It is like you WANT to have the final word of everything, you act like a hammerer trying to signalize people: "Go shoot Rej", "go invest Rej", "go roleblock Rej". I know how high tier scum is playing and you don't gotta act on me like that. A civ novas wouldn't shade a D1 Rej this harsh. also you don't vote me this DP because you don't want to be the one to cause 2 mislynches in a row and in the end people be like "oh Rej was right, we should lynch novas". That's why I think your mafiadog @Kibi is voting me right now, while most others are trying to figure me out and try to not lock me scum this time.
I'm the towncore and I've been interacting with you so get the fuck out here with this bullshit. Lmao what asspulls, just because you're unable to refute any of my points doesn't make them that. The fact that you can't is telling in itself, I have your civ number and can read very well because your suspicions are always original and genuine. Here they're not, the AFH one has no progression and feels contrived. Kibi was reactive and you were basically sheeping Salah, civ Rej is paranoid and doesn't do that. Not to that extent. Your suspicion of me is the same, you can't delve into it nor articulate why my thoughts are disingenuous. You're usually paranoid not fear mongering.

If it was a 50/50 thing, why go through with it? That's a waste of a shot when you're a 1-shot vig, makes no sense. Also why shoot me out of your suspects, especially when Kibi seemed like a stronger read and AFH had came before. You know you can't read me for shit and never has been able to, it's extremely selfish to go with a gamble and shoot me if you're town, and especially when I don't last long and can self resolve eventually with invests since this is a role-madness and not vanilla game.

Have you met my town self? I always try to have the final word and everything and am very loud with my suspicions. Trying to paint that as a negative is dishonest. "A Civ novas wouldn't shade a D1 Rej this harsh" of course he would, you're scummy as fuck and you're refusing to engage me on points which isn't helping you at all. If I wanted to lynch you, you'd have been lynched D1 so you should thank me.

Don't worry if no one goes with me on Michelle, you're getting lynched I can guarantee you that. And as for Kibi pushing you, I've been very vocal with my suspicion of you and have endorsed a lynch there so I'm not sure how I can be absolved by it if you flip civ. Also lmao, how do you know I'm not trying to cause 2 mislynches in a row? I'm pushing for Michelle, do you happen to know that she won't be a mislynch? :datea:
:pepeking: look at that claim, this makes @novaselinenever a bulletproof, and this can be both town or scum, or we have a second protect (doctor/bodyguard) in this setup
I'm not bulletproof that's for sure. Either another protect or you were blocked. A bodyguard would have killed the attacked and died doofus.
 
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I think Naomi is consistent, I TR her for my D1 reasons, only slipping a secret would make her scum imho, and she slips, it happens. 🤷‍♀️
Did you vote for AFS this DP?
yes I voted AFH. Consistency really isn’t something I’m concerned about when I was talking about her. Either way for someone to be watching this thread heavily she doesn’t have many detailed post that come from her own thought process.
 

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Michelle unvoted Alice saying she doesn't like voting blindly and I didn't think scum would do something like this and it looked like this is something town would do to let the player catch up.
Why wouldn't be something scum would do? I'm not sure how this is alignment indicative and warrants a townread. Alice hadn't even posted at all at BOTH times and wasn't a suspect all for it to have this spin on it.
Does AFH normally make weird votes like this as town? This is my second trad game playing with him. First trad game with him he subbed into a scum role, 2 reg game I played with him he was scum and in the second reg game he got mislynched as town on day 1. On 1 tos game he subbed late in a role that was town by poe.
He does, townies do the same as well. Why was his vote in particular weird?
 

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@Samael I'd class it as a cultural clash, same as your stuff with Salah. She has certain tendencies and this fits her civself, and while her thoughts aren't completely fleshed out, they seem genuine.
 

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Considering the events yesterday.. These are my most suspicious / suspects for this DP alongside Michelle.

I need to re read the whole DP1 to read the vibes between Nova and Rej of its a genuine T vs M or its a T vs T or just M to M distractions.


Michele last minute Vote Lynch was a scummy move. Not a typicalove from a townie Michelle.
Finally someone that suspects Michelle as well :pepega:
 

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My biggest scum reads are AHS due to meta as I said and Naomi, don’t know if they’re choosing to play the way they are but I can’t get with it. Very observant player, little to nothing to go off from them that they came up with themselves.

No town reads because I don’t trust any of you as of right now.
What happened to your lean on Rej?
 
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I take it from your past response,and mention of playing experience with her. She more active when town? Or playing on other forum with newer players, she choosing to be more quite and observe?
I hosted exactly one game she played where she got vigged N1. So not exactly a lot of statistical worth here. But yeah she looked a lot better than she looks in this gane.
 
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Hello, sorry I'm late.
Going to catch up asap and play until Eod
 

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What's the deal with the newly built hospital and the casino? I've been steering clear from it lol, the latter is a mechanic I remember from a Dressrosa game hosted by Drago. It was tied to an indie or scum role I think and you could win abilities and stuff but they also gained something in return.
 
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What happened to your lean on Rej?
That bs he’s spewing i want no part of.
I read what he’s said and it can be genuine or not. It’s way to early to sit here and lie and I don’t think he’d go through all this trouble to just get you lynched.

Then again he comes off as very impulsive so him doing what he’s doing for the wrong cause wouldn’t shock me.

I have no clear read, he’s more of a issue and distraction than anything else now.
 
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I got an exam in a few hours so I'll be out for a while. Will be back before EoD. Get some stuff going on in the meantime por favor, me I'm looking at a Rej and Michelle's lynch, Juliet's town read on the latter and apparently agreeing with her on AFH is making me trend there lmao :catsamurai:

AFH's suspicions is based on a lot of flimsy reasons and there don't seem to be any strong stances against him. Which makes me think it's not pure, and the people suspecting him aren't genuine in those suspicions and don't actually want to figure him out. It's weird. Feels like the easiest scum read to have with his presence this game, a low hanging fruit.

[Vote Lynch Michelle]
It's Alwaysmind.

Alwaysmind lynches are always forced. There's not even a different way to lynch him anyway.
 
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That bs he’s spewing i want no part of.
I read what he’s said and it can be genuine or not. It’s way to early to sit here and lie and I don’t think he’d go through all this trouble to just get you lynched.

Then again he comes off as very impulsive so him doing what he’s doing for the wrong cause wouldn’t shock me.

I have no clear read, he’s more of a issue and distraction than anything else now.
I'm referring to the takes from D1 when this claim wasn't here, I recall you leaning scum early on.

Also lol yeah he's a character for sure. And like I said, it is suicide but I wouldn't put it past him.
 
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Why wouldn't be something scum would do? I'm not sure how this is alignment indicative and warrants a townread. Alice hadn't even posted at all at BOTH times and wasn't a suspect all for it to have this spin on it.

He does, townies do the same as well. Why was his vote in particular weird?
I have never seen scum unvote a player to let them catch up and it was always town who did this. I didn't like the naked vote with no reasoning and it looked misleading.

What's the deal with the newly built hospital and the casino? I've been steering clear from it lol, the latter is a mechanic I remember from a Dressrosa game hosted by Drago. It was tied to an indie or scum role I think and you could win abilities and stuff but they also gained something in return.
Your thoughts about the hospital is starting to scare me. I visited the hospital since Rej said something about it boosting his ability. I think I have some info about the hospital. I'll ask Drago if I'm allowed to share since knowing Drago he sometimes doesn't let players talk about claims and actions.
 

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I'm the towncore and I've been interacting with you so get the fuck out here with this bullshit. Lmao what asspulls, just because you're unable to refute any of my points doesn't make them that. The fact that you can't is telling in itself, I have your civ number and can read very well because your suspicions are always original and genuine. Here they're not, the AFH one has no progression and feels contrived. Kibi was reactive and you were basically sheeping Salah, civ Rej is paranoid and doesn't do that. Not to that extent. Your suspicion of me is the same, you can't delve into it nor articulate why my thoughts are disingenuous. You're usually paranoid not fear mongering.

If it was a 50/50 thing, why go through with it? That's a waste of a shot when you're a 1-shot vig, makes no sense. Also why shoot me out of your suspects, especially when Kibi seemed like a stronger read and AFH had came before. You know you can't read me for shit and never has been able to, it's extremely selfish to go with a gamble and shoot me if you're town, and especially when I don't last long and can self resolve eventually with invests since this is a role-madness and not vanilla game.

Have you met my town self? I always try to have the final word and everything and am very loud with my suspicions. Trying to paint that as a negative is dishonest. "A Civ novas wouldn't shade a D1 Rej this harsh" of course he would, you're scummy as fuck and you're refusing to engage me on points which isn't helping you at all. If I wanted to lynch you, you'd have been lynched D1 so you should thank me.

Don't worry if no one goes with me on Michelle, you're getting lynched I can guarantee you that. And as for Kibi pushing you, I've been very vocal with my suspicion of you and have endorsed a lynch there so I'm not sure how I can be absolved by it if you flip civ. Also lmao, how do you know I'm not trying to cause 2 mislynches in a row? I'm pushing for Michelle, do you happen to know that she won't be a mislynch? :datea:

I'm not bulletproof that's for sure. Either another protect or you were blocked. A bodyguard would have killed the attacked and died doofus.
:pepeclown:clown, again these big ass defensive wallposts, stop with that and stop defending Kibi
 
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Jinri didn't even post today. Still want to lynch.

Juliet did post but her playstyle is meh. Not sure if want to lynch.

Kibi is missing. Might lynch.

Rej feels like a jester tbh. He's being so scummy it feels too scummy. He's kind if new in mafia though so maybe he just dropped the ball. Might lynch anyway because unnanounced jesters are super rare.

I feel some paranoia about nova which is not enough to lynch him but is enough to wsnt to pursue whatever wagon he is not pursuing. He is kind of living in a bubble and it's weird.
 
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