Chapter Discussion One Piece 1000: Strawhat Luffy

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I also want them dead.
But I can see how Kaido wouldn't kill them, so he can force them to become his allies.

And boy oh boy. This panel right here is just delicious. :poggers:
one of the best panels ever drawn in this story!

I like that chapter alot, Oda surprised us by keeping it simple, but still have it have the highest value out of all mid arc related chapters of any arc. It's a Luffy chapter, and a chapter that rounds up the pace Oda set in the recent chapters. Great work and I am satisfied, I mean that is what we wanted and waited for.
 
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Wasnt Roger himself surprised when he heard the Marines are calling him the pirate king? Im remembering something like this.
And before Roger no one was called pirate king. So naturally it wasnt something roger wanted to achieve. He had other goals which at the end made him the king
Got to admit, alot of things such as this leads me to consider that its not the usual pirate king line, but ultimately I can't get behind the idea. My reasoning is that for Luffy to have a hidden goal/motive that he tells Ace and Sabo but not to his crewmates is just so out of character.

So honestly its a weird situation where if it is revealed to be something else, I would feel weird why Luffy never mentioned it to his crewmates. And if its just the usual Pirate King line, I would feel weird about these overreactions from Ace, Sabo, WB, Oden, Yamato. Maybe as a reader we are desensitized with the statement "be Pirate King".
 
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Absolute great chapter this is what i call luffy chapter !!!

I will give detail analysis whe viz . I read french scans and the english translation are not upto the standard i barely understood the interactions between kaodo and supernovas.
 
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Got to admit, alot of things such as this leads me to consider that its not the usual pirate king line, but ultimately I can't get behind the idea. My reasoning is that for Luffy to have a hidden goal/motive that he tells Ace and Sabo but not to his crewmates is just so out of character.

So honestly its a weird situation where if it is revealed to be something else, I would feel weird why Luffy never mentioned it to his crewmates. And if its just the usual Pirate King line, I would feel weird about these overreactions from Ace, Sabo, WB, Oden, Yamato. Maybe as a reader we are desensitized with the statement "be Pirate King".
If it's something that makes the like of WB, Oden, Ace or Sabo laugh, i think it's something funny even to us, something impossible or something hard to achieve, and not all kind of pirates would even dream of...so "Pirates King" line is something out of the line...

Personally, i thought it would be like "Most Free Man in the World" or "someone who recognized by everyone in the world through generations" or "someone whose his name will be written in the history book for generations to come" or maybe "someone who will put all of the seas together as one"
 
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If it's something that makes the like of WB, Oden, Ace or Sabo laugh, i think it's something funny even to us, something impossible or something hard to achieve, and not all kind of pirates would even dream of...so "Pirates King" line is something out of the line...
Some of them are pretty dumb. Impossible really. Which is why...

Only fools chase impossible dreams!

Then I'll become the King of the fools!


Something to that effect.

What is the Pirate King but the most foolhardy of pirates. A fool among fools. A foolish lord.

And who're those who doubted him but fools in hindsight then? In a way, you could say that'd make everyone a fool in their own way, pirate and doubter alike, in effect making him the King of the....*gets shot by CP0 assassin*
 
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Did anybody else notice how those two Minks ( assuming it's Roddy and BB ) flanking the musketeers had their faces hidden behind those dialogue bubbles? I smell trouble coming from the Minks' side. Those tears from Shishilian? I'm sensing they come from a place of regret, but not like in Kin's situation.

I smell a Mink betrayal finally going down. Did Kaido perhaps reveal something to them?
 
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is it true ?

then i really hope that was really the case because i still dissapointed right now...

amazing chapter but i can't enjoy to it's fullest....
I second this.
Really hope it's because of the scalnlation pics.
 
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I second this.
Really hope it's because of the scalnlation pics.
Yup..i mean, wth is this...



And where is the Haki Burst/Effect ?



Is that a non-Haki attack or what ? Even Kaidou basic attack to Red Scabbard or Yamato attacks to Hacha has those kind of effect....

After re-read chap 999, then chap 1000....the art quality seems to drop so much....
 
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Looks like a gear third version of Red Hawk to me. We'll see.

In terms of the art, one has to keep in mind that some re-drawing takes place when scanlators do their thing, so some dilution in the artwork is to be expected.

Then again, we're probably going to see some rushjobs from Oda in the coming weeks. I've a feeling he'll be taking less breaks from here on out. He's got a schedule he's keeping to, and Covid's def fucked with the timing. The next few months are going to interesting, to say the least.
 
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Yup..i mean, wth is this...



And where is the Haki Burst/Effect ?



Is that a non-Haki attack or what ? Even Kaidou basic attack to Red Scabbard or Yamato attacks to Hacha has those kind of effect....

After re-read chap 999, then chap 1000....the art quality seems to drop so much....
I know what you mean, i also compared ch 1000 to 999.
Just looks awful at parts.
Agreed with Ghidorah there, we'll probably see more of these.
Can't be helped i guess.
 
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is it true ?

then i really hope that was really the case because i still dissapointed right now...

amazing chapter but i can't enjoy to it's fullest....
Wait for viz release , the ditors usually reject if the drawings are not upto standard usually Oda's art is highly appreciated .
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Yup..i mean, wth is this...



And where is the Haki Burst/Effect ?



Is that a non-Haki attack or what ? Even Kaidou basic attack to Red Scabbard or Yamato attacks to Hacha has those kind of effect....

After re-read chap 999, then chap 1000....the art quality seems to drop so much....
Oh this one i understand those one looks shit . Heck they pass it on because he is oda . Maybe there will be re correction in volume edition !
 
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so the chapter 1000 cover just released. What do you think? Looks cryptic and may carry foreshadowing to me :pepethinking:
 
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so the chapter 1000 cover just released. What do you think? Looks cryptic and may carry foreshadowing to me :pepethinking:
If you mean


Oh yeah, there's a shitload of things being hinted n foreshadowed here. Some of which do involve some very worrying developments.

Not to give away too much, as I'm already working on...a lot of this, but here's some clues/things to watch out for.

The prominence of Zoro's white-scabbard

The bird emblems on Franky's shoulders

The skull - its "horns," 3 bullet holes, Luffy's Jolly Roger

Brooke forming the crossbones/cross-swords

Brooke's gold-colored afro

Jinbe's sword

His pink fish emblems

Nami's crown

That fucking fish Sanji's carrying ( no, it's not just a playful nod to the Koido reveal, there's far more to it )

The golden whale in the background

All that gold. Gold gold gold.

The letters themselves if you look close enough and spot the various things they resemble.

Luffy peering at the horizon...at us the viewer. Almost looks like a salute even. He's not the first we've seen in that pose either.
 

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I only just read the Viz version.
I mean only thing better would have been a Shanks mention :LOL:

I didn't think I would enjoy Luffy going super serious as much, but it's definitely a new side of him we hadn't seen often since his training with Rayleigh. :unsure:

"Law. Do the thing." *Law does the thing*
 
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It's subtle, and maybe it's just me, but it def seems to me like Oda's really been turning Luffy's "shonen protag" dials way up lately, to the point of decking him out with a lot of the common frills typical of Naruto types. It feels a bit....uncustomary of Luffy. Even seems like Oda's been slightly changing the way he draws Luffy, giving him "softer," smoother features, e.g. slightly less pronounced eyes; Luffy's big, round mongoloid eyes have long been a staple, but it feels to me like they've been.....shrinking in size lately? Haha.

In an arc revolving around change, deceit, transformation....I think it's just one of many intentional tricks Oda's been pulling to play with readers' expectations, among other things. Even the kinda stuff that's been trying fans' patience, disappointing people...also part of a very long-game, slow-burning plan to not only play with readers predictions, desires, complaints, emotions, attachment and dislike of certain characters, etc...but to explicitly make us aware he's been doing so, and how easy at times at that. It's not even simple trolling...it's Oda's extended treatise on perception, manipulation, and so much more...a study of storytelling as expressed through storytelling...In a way, it even speaks to another, meta story: that of an an author, his work, and the fanbase's continuing interplay and synergetic evolution. A story within a story within a story, complete with audience participation like some improv show.

I don't think it's going to last long. Gonna likely go in the exact opposite direction in several ways. A lot of fans are not going to be pleased, I don't think haha. It's gonna be a long couple months. Funny thing is that a lot of those hating on certain characters may gradually change their tune when they see what's in store. And other readers disappointed with certain things may get pleasantly surprised. Topsy turvy all around.
 
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