Chapter Discussion One Piece Chapter 1085: The Death of Nefertari Cobra

[Ichimonji]

Great chapter. Weirded out by the shadows of Gorosei and Imu, but great. I’m sure silhouettes don’t mean much. Y’all remember how Kaido first appeared in silhouette? Lol

Confirmed that D was the Ancient Kingdom enemy of the 20 kings. We all knew it, but nice to confirm, since Oda is always throwing curveballs.

To me, it’s more likely Lili was a double-agent rather than giving herself the name. Would not have the same effect if anyone can give you the name and does not come from lineage.

Seems like Lili was connected in either making the Poneglyph or releasing them.

I’m rereading Alabasta as we speak, so it’s kind of full circle. Love how Oda uses characters in the past like this!

 

[Pepper]

Did Imu just straight up eat the flame in this chapter?

 

[Rej]

Did Imu just straight up eat the flame in this chapter?

Oh I haven't seen that one, but yeah that one panel looks like it lol. Interesting.

 

[Larsi]

Matching shapes to gorosei:

In both these images the gorosei are arrayed in the same position

Here the shapes are in the same arraying as well, in the first one the second from the left is barely visible to the left of Sabo.

The only named one is the one all the way on the left, is Saturn, who looks like a devil.
Blonde guy is the goo who isnt visible in the first shapes pic.
Samurai dude is the middle one with kinda human shape with awakened smoke thing
Long thin beard guy is the bird creature.
Big mustache(Gorbachev looking guy) is the hippo looking thing on the right. Still has his big ass mustache in the form it looks like.

Saturn/Devil was behind to the left of Cobra, and this is where the first attack for Cobra came from:

 

[Guren]

Safe to say we'll at the very least see Saturn's form when he clashes with Luffy.

 

[Pepper]

Oh I haven't seen that one, but yeah that one panel looks like it lol. Interesting.

Saw some theorizing from Artur saying that Imu could be a rubber-hose cartoon devil counterpart akin to G5 Luffy and honestly if true, I'm all for it.

 

[Ichimonji]

Ew, no! Looney Tunes Luffy was bad enough.

 

[Ichimonji]

Read a theory Lili is Zuneisha. Imu punished her for spreading Poneglyphs by making her walk the earth. It’s how Zu knows JoyBoy, being his “nakama”. That tracks with Vivi being technically Luffs nakama, and honestly, make SO MUCH SENSE!

(though one could argue Imu seemed he was not sure Lili betrayed him or was an honest mistake)

 

[Pepper]

Ew, no! Looney Tunes Luffy was bad enough.

That certainly is an opinion
Just not mine tho