Chapter Discussion One Piece Chapter 981 - Engagement

[Raven]

FINALLY THE TIME HAS COME FOR MARCO AND NEKOMAMUSHI!!!

 

[Nessos]

I must sign this tbh, I feel the same, I think the only thing that can change this is the ultimate Big Mom super rage, one more chaotic and destructive and less controlable than on WCI

The BMP have to reach Wano and start to fight.
But to be honest Beast Pirates doesn't seem to be greater threat then BMP. The running gag doesn't change this.

 

[Gambit]

Pero can simply create candies upstream.. Lol.. These siblings are hilarious

 

[Nessos]

Pero can simply create candies upstream.. Lol.. These siblings are hilarious

Burning birds vs melting candy
(WCI showed heat is weakness of Peros fruit)

 

[Gambit]

Burning birds vs melting candy
(WCI showed heat is weakness of Peros fruit)

Does it really burn foes?

 

[Ghidorah Guy]

A lot of people, myself included, were left a bit perplexed when early spoilers revealed the BM crew was still lingering outside of Wano for some odd reason. Just didn't make sense that they'd been left out of the loop for so long or that they'd attempted no other action. Now that the chapter's out, I'm thinking this feeling of incredulity is exactly what Oda intended. There's some funny business brewing.

That neither Big Mom apparently nor the others were made aware of Wano's alternate entrance is a big red flag. One could argue it's simply a matter of the Kaido and Co. still not fully trusting the BM Pirates, but current trends seem to point in an ominous direction. Wasn't too long ago that Big Mom intended to spring a trap on Germa. Consider too the role that broken communication lines and false communiques played in neutralizing Udon and preventing Queen from discoverying what transpired -- as we're notably reminded in this very chapter. Lastly, I also notice we didn't catch a glimpse of two big names I believe may involved in a coup attempt against Big Mom, Compote and Snack; I believe even this too was every bit intentional on Oda's part.

What I'm getting at here is that someone on the Big Mom's ship may've been sabotaging communication lines or feeding their fellows false reports ala Babanuki in order to stall the ship's entry into Wano. How exactly this would play into a potential plot and betrayal against Big Mom remains in question, but I wouldn't be surprised if we get a scene where it's pointed out that Compote, Snack, and possibly a few others have suddenly gone "missing." To where? Probably snuck away in the middle of the night and entered Wano by some other route as pointed out by allied conspirators on the Beast Pirates' side of things or otherwise. I'm thinking Kaido himself has got some traitors scheming away under his own roof, possibly members of some unknown secret faction currently plotting to bring down both Kaido and Linlin by means of a coordinated strike involving turncoats from both sides.

Anyways, just speculation, but pay close attention if any Big Mom Pirates are soon mentioned to have "fallen off" the ship following Marco's attack, only to later reappear safe and safe on Wano under the same supposed circumstances as Big Mom and others, ie washing ashore.

Another possibility is that CP0 are themselves fucking with the BM Pirates' communication lines to likewise stall for time. I think the Cypher Pol hammer is destined drop at some point as well, but I imagine it'd take place at a later time in light of potential events to come, e.g. a possible wedding, a subsequent meeting of Underworld brokers ( particularly a replacement for Doflamingo )…

Whichever's the case, there's major shenanigans abrewin'
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Burning birds vs melting candy
(WCI showed heat is weakness of Peros fruit)

It'll probably be Sanji melting his arm with a Diable Jambe. Persospero's probably a likelier foe ( bounty/power level wise ) than Queen imho. But then, this is probably going to turn into a wilder battle royale than Marineford with so many players involved, so a brief encounter ( potentially one of many ) consisting of a few panels of Sanji wrecking Perospero's arm as a small measure of payback for Pedro has good odds too.

 

[Nocvius]

What Marco said about “this age of ours[...]” is really interesting... what did he mean?

He was implying that the upcoming defeat of Kaido & his Beast Pirates would change the age of pirates, especially since Marco-Kaido belong to the same generation.

Anyway Marco vs King is basically confirmed

They will definitely at least have a brief exchange and hurt each other.
I'm calling a temporary tag team between Marco & Zoro against King, and Zoro will finish off moderately/heavily injured King.

Am I the only one who no longer feels any sense of threat or intimidation from the Big Mom Pirates anymore?

That shows how the BM crew cant do shit without BM-Katakuri.
If nothing else, Im calling out a future alliance between SH & BM (led by Katakuri) because Katakuri's respect towards Luffy.

 

[Gambit]

He was implying that the upcoming defeat of Kaido & his Beast Pirates would change the age of pirates, especially si

On a lesser scale, maybe he was just implying that it will be over when they finally reached the shore.

 

[Waindo]

Calling it right now, Apoo has awakened his DF and will have an ultrasonic CoC infused fart attack.

 

[Khal Whako]

Hope the bm crew do something great next chapter their embarrassing themselves. Maybe smoothie can absorb water and blast it at the back to thrust the ship up or perospero create a candy elevator for the ship that would be great.

 

[AlphaKaido]

Apoo went from being potentially one of the strongest supernova to one of the weakest in the span of a chapter.

 

[Nessos]

Apoo went from being potentially one of the strongest supernova to one of the weakest in the span of a chapter.

Why weak? It is a huge disadvantage if you are not allowed to hear anything. Also wouldn't wouldn't be suprised if he is a strong brawler. Don't forget he is from longarm tribe.

 

[AlphaKaido]

Why weak? It is a huge disadvantage if you are not allowed to hear anything. Also wouldn't wouldn't be suprised if he is a strong brawler. Don't forget he is from longarm tribe.

Losing hearing is not really a problem if you're proficient in observation haki, heck fujitora lost his eyesight which is arguably more important and hes doing fine. Plus you only really need to cover your ears whenever he iniates sound-based attacks. Also even though I get that being a supernova must mean that you're at least physically powerful, compared to the real supernova physical fighters and hard-hitters such as Luffy, Zoro, Urouge, Kidd, Killer, Drake, and even Bege (in his castle form), hes inferior. Also im not saying hes weak but when compared to the other supernova hes among the weakest of them.

 

[Nessos]

hes inferior.

Is he? How did you come up with this?
He took a direct hit of Kidd's Punk Gibson and was still able to fight back.

(Ideo showed the qualities of a Long-Arm fighter)

 

[AlphaKaido]

Is he? How did you come up with this?
He took a direct hit of Kidd's Punk Gibson and was still able to fight back.

(Ideo showed the qualities of a Long-Arm fighter)

Kidd's punk gibson was still able to bloody up and damage Apoo. Surviving one attack from a fellow supernova who was likely not unleashing his strongest arsenal from the get go does not mean hes one of the strongest, its the bare minimum to qualify as a supernova. Its also reasonable to assume that the names i just listed are physically superior in terms of combat compared to apoo considering their entire ability and existence revolves around physical fighting while apoo's main arsenal and what makes him dangerous centers around his long range sound attacks (which can be negated by an earplug lol). Are you really entertaining the idea that apoo is on even standing in terms of physical combat prowess as a powerhouse like urouge? In the end, you can assume that Apoo is strong enough to engage g4 luffy or dinosaur drake in hand 2 hand combat all you want, im just saying that from what weve seen and in a powerscaling and story perspective, it makes no sense for oda to do so. And again, im not saying that apoo's weak, i assume hes pretty strong even physically but compared to the other physical supernovas i listed hes inferior.

 

[Nessos]

Are you really entertaining the idea that apoo is on even standing in terms of physical combat prowess as a powerhouse like urouge?

I really entertain the idea that the Supernova play in the same league as the SHP Monster Trio.
(I am not going to argue A is stronger then B cause there is always some fanboy bias in it, the only ones among the Supernova I see as Special case are Kidd and Luffy)

 

[FRaSp]

There is no way that the BMP won‘t fall off the waterfall a third time. I am 100% sure, that the next time they try, they will be like „haha we prepared some counter air defence/FLAK, there is no way that Marco or King will stop us this time“ just to be stopped by the SHP + alliance and possibly BM.

At this point I also doubt that BM will be the secondary antagonist in this arc. At least her crew won‘t play a significant role. Oda divided them (Again) on purpose. This way, we wont have a way too high number of opponents for our alliance Before the real business goes down. I mean there are Kaido and his 3 commanders, the flying 6 (maybe only 5 or even 4 (Drake)) the numbers, other headliner just like Appo and Hawkins and BM, probably Yamato and Orochi + his subordinates. If we would add the BMP and gave all of them a (group)fight with our protagonist alliance, it would take forever before we would get to Kaido.

There is also always the possibility for a betrayal from Kaido or BM. Kaido doesn’t seem to gibe a shit about Big Moms crew and she is basically all on her own in the middle of a huge Beast pirate crew. I see a huge potential for her to switch sides when Kaido will not repay His debt.

 

[Nessos]

There is also always the possibility for a betrayal from Kaido or BM.

You mean like:
Luffy defeated -> beef between BM and Kaidou about who takes Luffy heads escalate -> Luffy comeback -> Kaidou and Big Mom get defeated ^^
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There is no way that the BMP won‘t fall off the waterfall a third time.

Made a thread about it

Current Events - Will the BMP-bird-trauma continue?!?

Looking at chapter 930 and chapter 981 it gives me "We are blasting off again"-flashbacks from my childhood pokemon love. Do you think the BMP will continue? But who might be next after these 2 great birds? Feel free to add more! :pepelaugh: And discuss as much as you want!!!

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You may add another possibility who might be the next throwing down BMP

 

[Lemonade]

is act 3 the longest act so far? Idk how its going to end since i thought Oden flashback was the tragedy...

 

[Nessos]

is act 3 the longest act so far? Idk how its going to end since i thought Oden flashback was the tragedy...

Alliance will fail and act 4 will be their comeback.