Chapter Discussion One Piece Chapter 984 - My Bible

[Chris Mic]

I am excited to see another character that plays with gender in a way that seems more nuanced than just the ‘cross dresser vs wrong body’ narrative. But doesn’t Izo refer to kiku as his brother here? I wonder if that is my misunderstanding or if it’s oda’s or translator decision.

Nah that was Kiku talking to Izo~

anyways, if oda doesn’t make Yamato final Nakama, I’m literally gonna murder him

Me ^

Straw hats need a femme who can stand up to jimbe/monster trio. And Yamato officially has a dream that only the straw hats can answer. Very interesting character. The amount of relief I felt when I saw it wasn’t actually Oden.... was palpable lmao

Always thought it was gonna be Carrot, still do, but if not Carrot then I'll take Yamato any day: he can fill the parallel of Oden in Roger's crew (being LITERALLY Oden), knows about the journey from Oden's log, probably has followed Luffy for a while, really we're missing very few things. My biggest problem is the face, Yamato looks too much like Nami but knowing Oda that can change.

Oh also this might explain why the WBP didn't worry about Oden, cause Ace met Yamato and probably told them Oden is alive or something

Ace: so yeah Oden was awesome, shockingly attractive too
Whitebeard: I know what you mean son I used to look at dat ass all the time

Biggest misunderstanding ever

But also, omfg Ulti throwing shade at Yamato’s technique while coughing up blood was peak ulti

The past 10 chapters alone have given us some FIRE characters, Ulti is my most recent obsession, best character in a while!

 

[Rej]

I'm not gonna debate about their Power Levels & how they compare
It's just that i don't agree to such rule, Zoro isn't always considered Superior to anyone who joins because he is Portrayed as Second Strongest, it's because his Role is Crew's "Main Fighter", that's literally his Job to be Strongest Fighter in Crew aside from Captain just like Nami is Navigator & Chopper is Doctor, if someone joins who is Superior to Zoro then he basically lost his Purpose same as saying a better Doctor than Chopper joins the Crew or better Navigator than Nami which is Impossible

I agree that Sanji was always Portrayed as Third Strongest but aside from Luffy & Zoro, All Crew have their Unique Role in Crew & no one will ever join the Crew who is better than one of them in their own Speciality. However they are all capable of fighting & differ in Power Level but that's not their Main Role so their Rankings can change without problem

For me it's like this:

1. Captain Luffy (It's Illogical for someone Stronger than Luffy to Join Crew)
2. Main Fighter Zoro (It's Illogical for someone Stronger than Main Fighter to Join Crew unless it's stated that's his/her Role too)
3. Rest of Crew (Their Rankings can be changed Power Wise without problem, however they are Unmatched in their Own Skill/Role)
4. Usopp (Portrayed as Human-Like Character of the Crew & confirmed by Oda to be & always will be Weakest SH)

So i'm not saying Jinbe is Superior to Sanji (Even though i believe it) and i'm not saying Yamato will be stronger than him (Even though i might see it possible) but there is no Rule that says Characters stronger than Sanji can't join the Crew

I agree in a sense that Zoro is outgrowing all other strong allied fighters, including Jinbei for example, one like Jinbei has many diverse qualities, like the capability to control opponents in the deep waters

Soo I found this when I tried to google "yamato is a woman"

Yamato nadeshiko - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

So is that kind of foreshadowing Yamato will become the new shogun and "goddess" in Wano?

nice find, I also like the Shogun theory besides the nakama theory...

spoiler: She will fall in love with Momonosuke, and she will save him, because she is so fond of Oden, why not carry on the love for Momonosuke?
I wonder what bloodlines she has or whats her mother...

 

[Kibi]

Type F to pay respects to Peros Ni-chan, The shadow in the sea

 

[Mr. Doflamingo]

She will fall in love with Momonosuke, and she will save him, because she is so fond of Oden, why not carry on the love for Momonosuke?
I wonder what bloodlines she has or whats her mother...

I have a theory Bonney will turn Momo to adult

 

[Nessos]

She will fall in love with Momonosuke

Yeah they may have been born around the same time, but that would mean Momo is now 20 years younger then her.

Not to mention we already have the Tama x Momo primary school romance.

 

[Rej]

Yeah they may have been born around the same time, but that would mean Momo is now 20 years younger then her.

Not to mention we already have the Tama x Momo primary school romance.

Toko x Momo > Tama x Momo (Royal Blood > non royal blood)

Tho Momo was shown to show interest in grown up women, imagine this one time a woman will respond to his hunger

 

[Mr. Doflamingo]

Plot twist: Kaido executed Oden because he stole Yamato's virginity and Toki committed suicide in flames learning her husband has cheated on her

 

[Rej]

Plot twist: Kaido executed Oden because he stole Yamato's virginity and Toki committed suicide in flames learning her husband has cheated on her

 

[Rej]

Wait.....

Hiyori x Yamato?

 

[Mr. Doflamingo]

Wait.....

Hiyori x Yamato?

so yuri?

 

[Ck4795]

Wtf are you guys discussing here
I dont think she will join. We had zero build up about her joining the crew. She literally just showed up and was never mentioned. Usually we get to see a joining Character for at least 2 arcs.

 

[Salah Eddine]

For me it is "Zoro and Sanji" are portrayed as Luffys "right and left hand".

How Sanji and Zoro treat each other can be seen among many Nr1 and Nr2.

We have:

• Moji and Cabaji
• Mr 1 and Mr2
• Kaku and Jabura
• Burgess and Shiliew
• King and Queen

And thats why I am going to stick with it, younwon't convince me
(Suprisingly Rayleigh and Gaban seemed to be more mature)

I never said Sanji isn't Luffy's Left Hand Man but that's based on Trust, Influence, Character ... etc
My only argument is this: "No Character will join the Crew & be Superior to a Previous Straw Hat's Main Role/Skill"
In other words, no Fighter better than Zoro will join, no Navigator better than Nami, no Chef better than Sanji, no Sniper better than Usopp, no Doctor better than Chopper, no Historian better than Robin ... etc

But saying no Fighter stronger than Sanji will join is same as saying no Swordsman stronger than Brook will join
I mean look at Franky, he was the Helmsman mostly and yet Jinbe the Official Helmsman joined, that's because Franky's Main Role is Shipwright, Helmsman is just one of his Skills just like Brook is The Musician & also a Swordsman, & Sanji the Chef who is also a Martial Artist

No.1 & 2 that i have seen are Koby & Helmeppo, Smoker & Tashigi, Crocodile & Mr.1, Lucci & Kaku, Roger & Rayleigh, Buggy & Mr.3, Shanks & Beckman, Sai & his Brother ... etc Not Burgess & Shiryu who i don't know why u mentioned, King & Queen who are part of Calamities Trio (Jack was called Right Hand Man of Kaido same as Queen & King), Kaku & Jabra who have no Rivalry tbh, it was Jabra & Lucci btw & Mr.1 & 2 who only met once & Mr.1 is Crocodile's Right Hand Man, Mr.2 isn't his Left Hand. I agree with Mohji & Cabaji though but still Galdino joined who have Luffy/Zoro Relationship with Buggy while Buggy/Mohji not really

The Role you're associating with Sanji is actually Chief of Staff and this Role isn't related to Power at all
I consider Zoro as Vice Captain, Nami as Internal Captain on the Ship & Sanji as Chief of Staff
And if you go check some Chief of Staff that we know of, you find Laffitte, Tsuru & Trebol for example
Laffitte isn't Third Strongest BB Pirate, Tsuru isn't Third, there are Admirals above her even though her Authority is second to Fleet Admiral & Trebol shares a Seat with 3 others who are as strong as him if not better in some cases

I'm not trying to convince you Sanji isn't Left Hand Man/Chief of Staff (I totally agree with this) nor that he isn't Third Strongest (It's totally fine believing so) but there is no Harm in someone Stronger joining the Crew because Sanji will always be Best Chef & Chief of Staff of the Crew & their greatest Savior. Zoro on the other hand just like Luffy have no Skill, he is Stupid & doesn't do anything on the Ship, his only Purpose is to Fight & his Role is "Main Fighter" so obviously he can't give that position to anyone

 

[Captain Khan]

Lola and Chiffon Reaction is epic . Was worth it even if Pound being alive was not ...you know ...... (let your characters die time to time , Oda)

I love the Page One and Ulti dynamic , this would never get old .
Ulti is the best character in Wano and she is getting even better ,wait she is transcending adjective norms here .
She appeared less than 10 chapters ago ,let that sink in . Also Thunder Sigua is not enough for her to be down . The two random beast pirates did comment on the dinosaur zoan's toughness . Are they awakened or is it normal for ancient zoan to casually take such hits .
Nonetheless the Tobi Roppo are in a league of their own .

Jinbei and Robin being the only ones to follow the plan . Love how they blend in . Robin's imagination still remains as vivid as ever , dig out his eyeballs . I think Orochi would be like"Isn't that a bit too much "
Kiku calling Law Tra-guy-san cracked me up . Marco going in investigate the shadow . Is it the expected Perospero or some one else .And the Nekomamushi and Inuarashi group meet up at last , We should soon get all the other groups converging too .

The panel of Kaido and the Three Calamities is amazing . So how is Kaido going to spice up the lame execution ?
And the big reveal of Kaido's daughter/son . The confusion that Kaido was talking about is most likely this issue itself . But Oda again casually dropping the gender fluidity in the the backdrop of traditional Wano whose borders are closed ,with Yamamto talking about opening it up to the world ,are you politicking Oda ? He would surely let Sanji pervyness go beyond when he sees eihter Black Maria,Ulti or Yamato . This kind of range in writing is breathtaking .

Kaido beating up Yamato for wanting to be like Oden and his respect for Oden is such a contrast . Every interaction of Kaido and Momonosuke is Kaido berating him for not being like Oden . Kaido has become even more interesting now

If Yamato for Nakama happens, Sanji would be thrashed so much LOL . Yes I am also for Yamato for Nakama . And Oda sometimes goes with the overwhelming majority , there are telltale signs that Yamato will join SHP .
Yamato fought Ace,cool . Ace leaving Wano without making some noise was unexpected . So we will hear his exploits and Luffy will most likely trust Yamato from then on .

 

[Salah Eddine]

Btw i think Aokiji is the one Marco noticed

1. Oda simply wants us to believe it's Perospero, but what's the need for a Marco/Prospero Interaction, it's pointless to fight or Team-Up
2. Oda made sure to show us Inurashi commenting on Snow as if it's something weird & also Readers should notice it
3. Marco's Comment suggests it's not a Boat (Another reason why we will start to assume it's Perospero), but Aokiji doesn't use a Boat so he fits
4. Marco should have seen someone who is near them, not Perospero who was late & behind them
5. Aokiji has always being theorized to be Member of S.W.O.R.D if not it's Founder/Co-Founder so it's possible he comes to Wano
6. Flying Six are all shown except X-Drake and since he didn't meet anyone & not looking for Yamato then perhaps he is meeting with Aokiji
7. Wano cannot be entered easily, but Aokiji happens to be among the very few Characters capable of easily entering it
8. Ace caused Snow to stop in Drum Island, Crocodile caused drought in Alabasta, so it makes sense Aokiji can make it Snow (Punk Hazard)

 

[The Fool]

I for one hope Yamato doesn't become nakama, i'd rather have Ulti as a nakama. Just her personality aboard the Thousand Sunny is gonna be golden.

Whereas Tama is another contender for nakama too as an apprentice maybe with Momo but i personally don't want Yamato.

I'd rather have Yamato as a SH Grand Fleet commander than a bonafide member of the crew

 

[Captain Khan]

Btw i think Aokiji is the one Marco noticed

1. Oda simply wants us to believe it's Perospero, but what's the need for a Marco/Prospero Interaction, it's pointless to fight or Team-Up
2. Oda made sure to show us Inurashi commenting on Snow as if it's something weird & also Readers should notice it
3. Marco's Comment suggests it's not a Boat (Another reason why we will start to assume it's Perospero), but Aokiji doesn't use a Boat so he fits
4. Marco should have seen someone who is near them, not Perospero who was late & behind them
5. Aokiji has always being theorized to be Member of S.W.O.R.D if not it's Founder/Co-Founder so it's possible he comes to Wano
6. Flying Six are all shown except X-Drake and since he didn't meet anyone & not looking for Yamato then perhaps he is meeting with Aokiji
7. Wano cannot be entered easily, but Aokiji happens to be among the very few Characters capable of easily entering it
8. Ace caused Snow to stop in Drum Island, Crocodile caused drought in Alabasta, so it makes sense Aokiji can make it Snow (Punk Hazard)

I do see the points you made sense .
Aokiji coming in as Marine would expose him(if he is a spy), so I think he will come in his own volition . He did say that he wants to do things without the Marine bindings . Maybe those were true words . As it was the case Marines right now are avoiding the Kaido-Big Mom alliance , all the more proving Aokiji's point .
But I don't think Blackbeard will challenge a Yonko alliance , he is a opportunist. He will likely wait out or try to break the alliance, he does seem to have a spy in Wano . So this puts us in conundrum ,maybe Aokiji is not exactly a crewmate rather he is feigning to be an ally to Blackbeard .
I don't see Aokiji as a spy . Drake is already revealed as such . Two similar situations at the same time doesn't seem to fit in Oda's style .

I for one hope Yamato doesn't become nakama, i'd rather have Ulti as a nakama. Just her personality aboard the Thousand Sunny is gonna be golden.

I want Utli to be a nakama too , her sassyness would be a pleasure to watch . But let us face reality she is not joining . She has not shown any motivation or desire that can be completed by joining in the Straw Hats . And to expand on that with battle looming over , I don't think Oda will have enough time for that . If he wanted he could have already set something up , which is the case with Yamato .

 

[Rawrwick]

If Yamato has blonde hair, I'll definitely ask my gf to cosplay her

 

[Nessos]

I never said Sanji isn't Luffy's Left Hand Man but that's based on Trust, Influence, Character ... etc

In my opinion it would destroy the dynamic between right and left if they can't be seen as equals anymore.

No.1 & 2 that i have seen are Koby & Helmeppo, Smoker & Tashigi, Crocodile & Mr.1, Lucci & Kaku, Roger & Rayleigh, Buggy & Mr.3, Shanks & Beckman, Sai & his Brother ...

These relations are like Luffy and Zoro relation not Zoro and Snaji.

King & Queen who are part of Calamities Trio (Jack was called Right Hand Man of Kaido same as Queen & King)

You must have missed the panel we're King and Queen dissed each other while portraying Jack as someone below them. The way they dissed each other remembered on how Zoro and Sanji treat each other.

Kaku & Jabra who have no Rivalry tbh

You must have missed Jabra becoming Jealous after the Doriki test.

Mr.1 & 2 who only met once & Mr.1 is Crocodile's Right Hand Man, Mr.2 isn't his Left Hand.

You must have missed Mr.2 is called Mr.2 and while they Clash they we're portrayed as almost equals while they also treat each other like Zoro and Sanji.


Again if x joins with x being Zoro > x > Sanji it would for me completly destroy the dynamic between Sanji and Zoro.

In other words, no Fighter better than Zoro will join, no Navigator better than Nami, no Chef better than Sanji, no Sniper better than Usopp, no Doctor better than Chopper, no Historian better than Robin ... etc

Here you can actually exchange "better than" to "along side" and change Zoros role to "First Mate".

 

[Salah Eddine]

In my opinion it would destroy the dynamic between right and left if they can't be seen as equals anymore.


These relations are like Luffy and Zoro relation not Zoro and Snaji.



You must have missed the panel we're King and Queen dissed each other while portraying Jack as someone below them. The way they dissed each other remembered on how Zoro and Sanji treat each other.


You must have missed Jabra becoming Jealous after the Doriki test.


You must have missed Mr.2 is called Mr.2 and while they Clash they we're portrayed as almost equals while they also treat each other like Zoro and Sanji.


Again if x joins with x being Zoro > x > Sanji it would for me completly destroy the dynamic between Sanji and Zoro.



Here you can actually exchange "better than" to "along side" and change Zoros role to "First Mate".

My argument was about Straw Hats Roles in the Crew, but apparently yours is about Zoro = Sanji always because they argue with each other,
I don't want to turn this into Power Level debate

 

[Waindo]

So much for my "Yamato is Oden" tinfoil lol.