[FIN] Traditional Mafia Round 15: Reverse Mafia

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and I know I am town. So from my PoV, Mango has to also to be town.
Pardon? How?

Ussop, it's a bit surprising that you also has survived D3. I mean, if the scums are seeing someone as threat, it should be you. You are good as dead had you been town since day one but you're here. Now there are only 2 reasons for that. You have been protected or you execute the kills. But the former wouldn't be true as the kills went through. Amy thoughts why your janitor abstained? Just thoughts.
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Their gut read was after my very first post. I figured they were more so trying to get a reaction so I dismissed it. Iirc they even mentioned some bait of some kind working later that day phase.
Gimme ur reads. Now.
 
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Ok Jules. We have beem scum buddies for like dozens of times and your play here is pretty similar. I can sense it. You barely touched anyone in the game but Pepper - if any, please enlighten me. So I was woandering if maybe you are afraid to go against the others due to the possibilty of talking more and slipping? Please enlighten me for old time sake. And again, why not see the possibility of Ussop saving Mango before eod. I mean... THE TIMING!!!!!!!


You're 99% I am town? But you were questioning Rej why he kept ignoring me whereas he actually didn't. We were going nose to nose with each other most of the game.

You also didn't buy his claim when it was already pretty obvious. It looked geniune and he was not gonna lie on that. Mafia day killer? Come on. Lololol. Uou know better. And you didn't directly answer why you think your team went to kill Rej instead? Is he a threat that he may solve he game?

Now let's go on your attack against Fuji. I mean, it was pre drafted right? You had prepared to lynch him and will try to buy you notion but it was one way. You hand picked his posts and paint it black so he would look bad when in all honesty, there are a lot of substanceless posts coming from you as well

You don't have to have my approval in isoing Mango, if you were true to hunting him, you woild have done so but instead you went to Fuji

@Juliet @Fujitora @Pepper
One of you has to claim. It's almost mylo
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What?! I don't get it. LOLOLOL. Are you seriously stating this?
Good, more reasons to town read you.

1. I don't honestly recall asking Rej why he ignored you. Maybe I did lol. Not sure how this has anything to do with you being 99% town tho hmm.

2. I am pretty sure in that same post I said his claim is more likely town-ish given how he never had to claim it if scum. Again this would require some WIFOM from me here, but I would almost never go for Rej kill if iIwas mafia rn. He is pretty much a generic and could easily be watched by town. It would be in my interest to try and aim my kill to who I think could be a hidden power role, then try to come here and get you lynched, using help from Rej and Mango who also wanted you gone.

3. Yea It was pre-drafted after T-pein lynch lol. I didn't wanna lose my line of thought. I ISO'ed Fuji properly after T-pein's flip and wrote this down then saved it. I just checked the writeup today to see if I was killed or not and then posted it right away when I saw I am still alive lmao. You can notice Rej still tagged on there. Forgot to remove him lol.

4. I already ISO'ed him, hence the defense yesterday lol. But it would be a big post to dissect so I instead asked you guys for the case on him and no proper one was given to me. So I went ahead and brought an alternative wagon in T-pein/Pepper, and decided to go for T-pein first. Then at night realized my mistake and it should of been Fuji.

I honestly think Mango is town, can you tell me why you think otherwise? I am town and I am the only one bothered saving him, so where is Mango's scummate?
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Their gut read was after my very first post. I figured they were more so trying to get a reaction so I dismissed it. Iirc they even mentioned some bait of some kind working later that day phase.
Their gut read remained for 2 days pepper. It was no longer just a gut read.
Yea he did poorly in explaining it, but you have also reacted to it poorly. Not a townie reaction.

Who are your current town/scum reads pepper?
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Pardon? How?

Ussop, it's a bit surprising that you also has survived D3. I mean, if the scums are seeing someone as threat, it should be you. You are good as dead had you been town since day one but you're here. Now there are only 2 reasons for that. You have been protected or you execute the kills. But the former wouldn't be true as the kills went through. Amy thoughts why your janitor abstained? Just thoughts.
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Gimme ur reads. Now.
Well I am pretty inactive so my kill would be random, and highly unlikely given how Fuji has been using me for his placeholder vote 2 days in a row.

I mean if he kills me, what's he gonna entertain his free time with? voting one of the actives that are gna push him back?

I think he was banking on my activity being abysmal this game and went with that. Honestly I didn't wanna log in today as well but decided to just post that one post and dip lmao

I am still playing 2 other games on NF, so my time here will always be limited and Fuji knows that.

I think the janitor is probably a 1-shot. It would be stupid broken otherwise in this small size game.
 
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Ok Jules. We have beem scum buddies for like dozens of times and your play here is pretty similar. I can sense it. You barely touched anyone in the game but Pepper - if any, please enlighten me. So I was woandering if maybe you are afraid to go against the others due to the possibilty of talking more and slipping? Please enlighten me for old time sake. And again, why not see the possibility of Ussop saving Mango before eod. I mean... THE TIMING!!!!!!!
On day 1 I voted Nessos, on day 2 when I came online Mango had votes and I was conflicted in his claim since I wasn't sure if he was telling the truth or not. It looks like you think Ekkologix and Mango are scum buddies and from what I remember scum don't often defend their scum buddy like this.
 
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Pardon? How?

Ussop, it's a bit surprising that you also has survived D3. I mean, if the scums are seeing someone as threat, it should be you. You are good as dead had you been town since day one but you're here. Now there are only 2 reasons for that. You have been protected or you execute the kills. But the former wouldn't be true as the kills went through. Amy thoughts why your janitor abstained? Just thoughts.
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Gimme ur reads. Now.
We also lost the doctor midday phase so unless there's 2 of them no one can be protected last np
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Ekkologix sent red flags to me with how they shifted the vote process from Mango last phase, more so how their activity spiked in the process, if they coasted the entire game I'd be more neutral towards them. However, given that they maintained their iso posts (or whatever they're called) I'd say scum read but less than before
Mango/You slight town reads
Fujishiro/Juliet- don't stand out to me all that much despite at least one of them posting more than myself
 
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On day 1 I voted Nessos, on day 2 when I came online Mango had votes and I was conflicted in his claim since I wasn't sure if he was telling the truth or not. It looks like you think Ekkologix and Mango are scum buddies and from what I remember scum don't often defend their scum buddy like this.
Were you not there on EoD 1?

If you and Mango were scummates you could of easily saved him by voting Gambit on day 1, breaking the tie. But you didn't.
 
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Good, more reasons to town read you.

1. I don't honestly recall asking Rej why he ignored you. Maybe I did lol. Not sure how this has anything to do with you being 99% town tho hmm.

2. I am pretty sure in that same post I said his claim is more likely town-ish given how he never had to claim it if scum. Again this would require some WIFOM from me here, but I would almost never go for Rej kill if iIwas mafia rn. He is pretty much a generic and could easily be watched by town. It would be in my interest to try and aim my kill to who I think could be a hidden power role, then try to come here and get you lynched, using help from Rej and Mango who also wanted you gone.

3. Yea It was pre-drafted after T-pein lynch lol. I didn't wanna lose my line of thought. I ISO'ed Fuji properly after T-pein's flip and wrote this down then saved it. I just checked the writeup today to see if I was killed or not and then posted it right away when I saw I am still alive lmao. You can notice Rej still tagged on there. Forgot to remove him lol.

4. I already ISO'ed him, hence the defense yesterday lol. But it would be a big post to dissect so I instead asked you guys for the case on him and no proper one was given to me. So I went ahead and brought an alternative wagon in T-pein/Pepper, and decided to go for T-pein first. Then at night realized my mistake and it should of been Fuji.

I honestly think Mango is town, can you tell me why you think otherwise? I am town and I am the only one bothered saving him, so where is Mango's scummate?
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Their gut read remained for 2 days pepper. It was no longer just a gut read.
Yea he did poorly in explaining it, but you have also reacted to it poorly. Not a townie reaction.

Who are your current town/scum reads pepper?
Why are u so calm? This is disturbing. Tbh.

Ok, so you're confident that I am town. U know, I have won games independently and scum leader in the past.. U know why? I rock fake claims, created chaos, and played like this. So don't buy it when people say they know my meta. I don't have one. I play based on my mood to play the game. Odd said, it's hard to figure out when I am scum or town. So you might have been talking to the SK now, or maybe a another scum.. I am not saying you're spitting tmi but just saying.

Yeah yeah yeah, I saw you pretty much isoed mango yesterday. He looked fine yeah. But there are plays that looked like he's scum. Sure, pein struck me as likely scum but i didn't have much proof to prove this so I stopped flushing him out.

On the other hand, Mango is the most likely to have meta. We have been scum buddies for 4 or 5 straight and I could see the big similarities. The reason why I went for him was because of his tells that didn't match his statements.

Pepper's meta is pepper. That's what he is scum or town. Doesn't talk big but he stays focused in the game believe me.

Lastly, mango claim doesn't make sense. What does a bulletproof vanilla have to do with this game? He doesn't have a room when we have the doctor who never really played town.
 
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We also lost the doctor midday phase so unless there's 2 of them no one can be protected last np
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Ekkologix sent red flags to me with how they shifted the vote process from Mango last phase, more so how their activity spiked in the process, if they coasted the entire game I'd be more neutral towards them. However, given that they maintained their iso posts (or whatever they're called) I'd say scum read but less than before
Mango/You slight town reads
Fujishiro/Juliet- don't stand out to me all that much despite at least one of them posting more than myself
So this read list is pretty flawed and out of place.
First, I am sorry about my activity, I have been busy in other sites but I am here now so lets work with what we have.

Now:

> You scum/red flag read me, which is fair.
> However you town read Mango?? Even if slight???

- So here is the thing: Are you saying you are suspicious of me because for my sudden activity change, and you think Scum Ekkologix just came here to suddenly put ALL that effort and bring themselves to light, just to save town Mango?

Why would any scum do that? Why not just let town lynch Mango? I mean if Mango really is town and I am scum, then why am I not voting Mango today?

Wouldn't it be better if I came to the thread ans said:
"Sorry guys I helped save scum, my bad. Lets yeet Mango today!"

So its either me and Mango are both town, or both scum. There is no in between. Mango had none saving him but me last day and this tells me enough.
 
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On day 1 I voted Nessos, on day 2 when I came online Mango had votes and I was conflicted in his claim since I wasn't sure if he was telling the truth or not. It looks like you think Ekkologix and Mango are scum buddies and from what I remember scum don't often defend their scum buddy like this.
That's what I think and there's a reason to believe so. So let's drop the sales pitch.

Gimme your solid distribution. Who are town and scums.

also please answer this, why did you (a janitor) choose to abstain?
We also lost the doctor midday phase so unless there's 2 of them no one can be protected last np
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Ekkologix sent red flags to me with how they shifted the vote process from Mango last phase, more so how their activity spiked in the process, if they coasted the entire game I'd be more neutral towards them. However, given that they maintained their iso posts (or whatever they're called) I'd say scum read but less than before
Mango/You slight town reads
Fujishiro/Juliet- don't stand out to me all that much despite at least one of them posting more than myself
Ok I get u. I want a solid distribution. Who are town and who are scums. Enumerate it.

also please answer this, why did you (a janitor) choose to abstain?
 
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So this read list is pretty flawed and out of place.
First, I am sorry about my activity, I have been busy in other sites but I am here now so lets work with what we have.

Now:

> You scum/red flag read me, which is fair.
> However you town read Mango?? Even if slight???

- So here is the thing: Are you saying you are suspicious of me because for my sudden activity change, and you think Scum Ekkologix just came here to suddenly put ALL that effort and bring themselves to light, just to save town Mango?

Why would any scum do that? Why not just let town lynch Mango? I mean if Mango really is town and I am scum, then why am I not voting Mango today?

Wouldn't it be better if I came to the thread ans said:
"Sorry guys I helped save scum, my bad. Lets yeet Mango today!"

So its either me and Mango are both town, or both scum. There is no in between. Mango had none saving him but me last day and this tells me enough.
Ok I'll admit my thought process isn't the best but I guess that makes you into neutral territory for me
That's what I think and there's a reason to believe so. So let's drop the sales pitch.

Gimme your solid distribution. Who are town and scums.

also please answer this, why did you (a janitor) choose to abstain?

Ok I get u. I want a solid distribution. Who are town and who are scums. Enumerate it.

also please answer this, why did you (a janitor) choose to abstain?
By ranking, now after Ekk's comment, from good to bad
1 You
2 Mango
3 Ekk
4 Juliet
5 Fuji
Also in regards to that last question. I'm guessing you mean why would janitor abstain at all? If so, I don't know. No matter what the scenario cleaning a role would create doubt and that's useful for scum no matter what. Best guess they're the skittish type
 
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Why are u so calm? This is disturbing. Tbh.

Ok, so you're confident that I am town. U know, I have won games independently and scum leader in the past.. U know why? I rock fake claims, created chaos, and played like this. So don't buy it when people say they know my meta. I don't have one. I play based on my mood to play the game. Odd said, it's hard to figure out when I am scum or town. So you might have been talking to the SK now, or maybe a another scum.. I am not saying you're spitting tmi but just saying.

Yeah yeah yeah, I saw you pretty much isoed mango yesterday. He looked fine yeah. But there are plays that looked like he's scum. Sure, pein struck me as likely scum but i didn't have much proof to prove this so I stopped flushing him out.

On the other hand, Mango is the most likely to have meta. We have been scum buddies for 4 or 5 straight and I could see the big similarities. The reason why I went for him was because of his tells that didn't match his statements.

Pepper's meta is pepper. That's what he is scum or town. Doesn't talk big but he stays focused in the game believe me.

Lastly, mango claim doesn't make sense. What does a bulletproof vanilla have to do with this game? He doesn't have a room when we have the doctor who never really played town.
I'm just chilling here won't stress over this game too lol.

I don't know your meta and I've actually never seen you as town to begin with. I just read what's in front of me and your posts are simply better than Fuji/Pepper. There is a certain number of scum that you have to catch you know. Those 2 and T-pein just looked infinity worst than you rn so I will go for them. Now again if you, Mango, or Juliet flip scum then honestly WP by you guys. I don't have anything else to say other than I am impressed and got fooled completely, but I will also flame these townies that are playing poorly leading us to mislynch them.

You should never stop flushing scum out lol, this is kinda lazy man. They won't give themselves on a silver platter for you to just pick up you know.

I don't know any of your meta. If you think Mango is scum, then either his scummate is afk, or me. But I am 100% town so there is a paradox being created there. Of course you don't know that (unless you are scum), but I know that I am town, so Mango is town to me, unless you decided to bus him this hard yesterday. Also this is even more reason to look into Fuji as he was willing to change to T-pein very easily, but not to pepper. And idk if pepper really plays like this always then who is the 2nd scum? You or Juliet? Fuji is pretty much confirmed scum tho.

Mango is our Godfather. He is bullet proof. Godfathers normally make you scan innocent but this is a weird setup so they are bullet proof here. I played the exact role on AM's game on NF. Bit of an angle shooting now but yea this is a town role. If scum has a bullet proof role then Rej's role is a joke and will almost never kill scum. It's counter intuitive.

Also Mango's role cans till die to mafia faction kill, just not to town vig. Or at least that's how it was when I played it on NF.
 
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Ok. I will park Usopp in the grassland for now. He's said enough to clear his side.

@Pepper you seem townish to me. But @Juliet , I think she's calculated posts tbh. So if you guys will ask me my reads today.

Mafia - Fuji until he talks, Mango
Middle - Ussop, Juliet
Town - Pepper
 
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Ok. I will park Usopp in the grassland for now. He's said enough to clear his side.

@Pepper you seem townish to me. But @Juliet , I think she's calculated posts tbh. So if you guys will ask me my reads today.

Mafia - Fuji until he talks, Mango
Middle - Ussop, Juliet
Town - Pepper
I really reaaallly don't agree with this pepper read, but I am down to yeeting Fuji first.
But ya if pepper is town then I'd insta bump Juliet to scum read. No questions asked. I'd love for pepper to up their gameplay tho ;(

Tell you what, lets move on to this

[vote lynch @Fujitora ] @A famous historian

@Mango Senpai @Pepper @Juliet

Let's get this confirmed rat Fuji out guys!

Ok I'll admit my thought process isn't the best but I guess that makes you into neutral territory for me

By ranking, now after Ekk's comment, from good to bad
1 You
2 Mango
3 Ekk
4 Juliet
5 Fuji
Also in regards to that last question. I'm guessing you mean why would janitor abstain at all? If so, I don't know. No matter what the scenario cleaning a role would create doubt and that's useful for scum no matter what. Best guess they're the skittish type
Good so Fuji is the worst for you too,
let's take him out then!
 
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Vote Lynch Gambit, i should've went with my gut feeling, Leaving Usopp alive is good for rats because they can pin the vote switch onto him.

Rej was onto Gambit, a lot.
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Ok. I will park Usopp in the grassland for now. He's said enough to clear his side.

@Pepper you seem townish to me. But @Juliet , I think she's calculated posts tbh. So if you guys will ask me my reads today.

Mafia - Fuji until he talks, Mango
Middle - Ussop, Juliet
Town - Pepper
Im an associate.

No shit Ussop isn't scum, he doesn't pull shit like that when he is.

I townread Ussop after the stuff that happened yesterday, for damn sure.
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I really reaaallly don't agree with this pepper read, but I am down to yeeting Fuji first.
But ya if pepper is town then I'd insta bump Juliet to scum read. No questions asked. I'd love for pepper to up their gameplay tho ;(

Tell you what, lets move on to this

[vote lynch @Fujitora ] @A famous historian

@Mango Senpai @Pepper @Juliet

Let's get this confirmed rat Fuji out guys!



Good so Fuji is the worst for you too,
let's take him out then!
If you are town then don't be a godamn idiot, you spam pinged me here and even told me on WG to come here because you pinged me.

And you were asking to break the tie.

If you're scum and this was all a tactic from you, then shame on you. To think you would go to such lengths to win a random mafia game.

Which means i townread you, for your sake.

If you're scum, i'm never playing with you ever again.
 
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Were you not there on EoD 1?

If you and Mango were scummates you could of easily saved him by voting Gambit on day 1, breaking the tie. But you didn't.
I was not on at the EoD 1.

That's what I think and there's a reason to believe so. So let's drop the sales pitch.

Gimme your solid distribution. Who are town and scums.

also please answer this, why did you (a janitor) choose to abstain?
Town - Gambit, Ekkologix
50/50 - Mango
Scum - Pepper, Fuji

I'm guessing janitor is a 1 shot.

Ok. I will park Usopp in the grassland for now. He's said enough to clear his side.

@Pepper you seem townish to me. But @Juliet , I think she's calculated posts tbh. So if you guys will ask me my reads today.

Mafia - Fuji until he talks, Mango
Middle - Ussop, Juliet
Town - Pepper
Why is Pepper a town read to you?
 
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@Pepper @Juliet why didn't you vote yesterday?

rej > pein
usopp > tpein
mango > tpein

gambit > mango
tpein > mango
fuji > mango

I was a part of the mango voters till Usopp spam pinged me to break the tie. Making a godamn case about Pein.

Either he's scum trying to save scum Mango or he's a dumb townie.

Pein died.

Rej who voted Pain died.


Mango could still be bad as i voted him really early on last phase.

Gambit imo looks really bad here because all of his guesses for who scum his turned out to be false, and he isn't that bad of a player. Imo could be scum Powerwolfing.

I still don't understand why Peper or Juliet didn't vote.
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I was not on at the EoD 1.



Town - Gambit, Ekkologix
50/50 - Mango
Scum - Pepper, Fuji

I'm guessing janitor is a 1 shot.



Why is Pepper a town read to you?
Explain to me how i'm scum? I only voted Pein because Usopp tagged me 3k times asking me to and i wasn't gonna do it until i saw that there was a tie, and i didn't want the day to end in a tie again like D1.

Just because i've been extremely busy doesn't make me scum.
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Oh well I trolled the 50-50 there didn't I huh? Well sorry fam but your play was kinda abysmal imo @T-Pein™ lmao

Now back to [vote whack pepper] @A famous historian

Alright let's go over this one slowly here guys, please pay attention till the end.

@Gambit @Rej @Mango Senpai @Juliet you guys are practically town in my book from your ISOs. Though a bit iffy on Juliet, your posts do still look to actually move the game forward (with a bit of worrisome parroting by Juliet). WP if any of ya flips scum, but you're my town pool for now.

I do apologize for my inactivity the past 2 days but the game was pretty slow and easy to ISO thankfully.

We yeet Fuji/Pepper and we r done here. Let's at the very least actually pressure them while I entertain you on why they are the rats we are looking for.

I already went over pepper's ISO last phase. He/she has absolutely no content but mechanical talk, then talk about jester and past games with added poor reaction to T-pein's 'gut' read. There is not a single bit of game solving in their posts and I would really appreciate it if you guys would share their meta with me or lemme know if they are new player or not. I messed up in trying to find their scummate yesterday and did not properly ISO Fuji, but now that ISO'ed him carefully I can see this: (Please try to follow it all)



Meh opener vote on me. I don't even recall actually reacting to it. He choses me out of 4 other inactives at that time (being me, Juliet, Pepper, and Rej). Again this isn't too bad for reaction purposes, but he never went back to it.


Zero content post.


Going for reactions again here from the looks for it. Reactions that he never comes back to, to the point where the post becomes nothing but meaningless fluff. That's 3 of them now.



Painting this horrid troll idea of 3-8 when this setup is 99.99% a 2-9 setup, given how there is a vig.
This is NAI yes, but having a wrong idea about the setup ruins town's perception of lylo and vote tracking. Painting that idea onto others is horrible, specially relating it to a different game. Also noting the fact that he never plays or game solve toward this idea to begin with.
This is what I call fake content. He has to pretend to be contributing and this is the best he could come up with at that current time.


This isnt REALLY a TMI case on him. I mean, I still call town town and scum scum so yeah, nothing wrong with this really. It simply happens since this is an unusual setup, so this is NAI for now.


Buddying super hard with @Mango Senpai here.


A slick way to avoid that interaction, given how he mentioned not wanting to comment much on it now, but agrees it is weird. It reads like he wants to just cut it off right here. He wouldn't wanna tunnel too deep on Mango early on because he knows Mango is town. So instead buddies Mango and runs away from an interaction with him.
Town!Fuji's play here would be to look more into Mango's jump on him and take that interaction whole heartedly and expand on it instead of run away from it.


I am mostly inactive so this a pretty weak push with no actual resistance or reaction from me and he knows that. Again just faked content all together. No actual scum hunting whatsoever. ;/




You see it was day 1 so this stuff can sometimes get a pass. Hardcore fluff and no case whatsoever on his vote. Best u can get here is reactions but he never came back to it later on to push me for a reaction he obtained, because there really was none, and that was not his goal to begin with. That was a fluff vote, not a reaction vote. Period.
Basically it is pretty poor to just keep the vote laying on me like that for no apparent reason given how he avoided talking about it and avoided interactions with others, and avoided partaking in the day 1 lynch whatsoever. The lynch that had Nessos, Mango, Gambit as wagon. All 3 town.


Hmm still goes back to me again here.
It's almost funny how nothing in the game interests him but an afk player (me).
This is bad, pretty bad. Screams wolf here.
Says he's going to catch up but nothing of value is said after that. Very poor post. He caught up but never actually said anything.


Big oof here.
Painting Udell's death on Mango, and does not consider any other possibilities of Mango being framed.
I regret not reading this ISO properly last day honestly. This is pretty wolfy play here. His vote on Mango was placed very easily with a pretty ridiculously linear reason that he never actually bothered expanding on.
He never suspected Mango at any point in the game prior to this either so this sudden vote is extremely horrid, special given how his suspicion on me on the entirety of day 1 is magically gone on day 2 without me making a single post.
Not to mention this part of his post "Wait a sec, rats can kill 2 people or was there a vig kill as well as a rat kill?" looks extremely forced and fake. Does not add anything to the game.


Says to look into the people Udell did NOT want out, but votes Mango, who Udell wanted out THE MOST.
This is just the ultimate inconsistency here right now. And even added an activity excuse to it.
GET THIS RAT OUTTA HERE GUYS!!!




Another back to back activity excuse here.
And look at this part of his post: "he wanted Mango out, he also wanted Peper out i think?"
This is the kinda posts where you mention your scummate for a small bus but never actually bother pushing them. Instead he is so adamant on Mango and only actually swaps to T-pein, all while providing absolutely no tangible case on either. He will not swap to pepper.



I know I messed it up a bit with the T-pein wagon yesterday, but if none has a better lead other than Fuji/Pepper, they should be our yeet for today. If anyone has some other suggestions I am open for them, but they should be ready to defend their opinions and cases please.
So you get me to come here to present your case on T-pein and break the tie, then you make an ISO on me to get me out the next day ?

You absolute mongrel.

I am aware my posting has been low quality, i got no excuse for that. But i'm not gonna lay over and die. If you really are scum, then im fucking done playing with you.

Imagine being desperate enough to tag someone on another website to come here to read your indigestible hogwash and break the tie minutes before the votes end.

Fuck right off.
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Oh well I trolled the 50-50 there didn't I huh? Well sorry fam but your play was kinda abysmal imo @T-Pein™ lmao

Now back to [vote whack pepper] @A famous historian

Alright let's go over this one slowly here guys, please pay attention till the end.

@Gambit @Rej @Mango Senpai @Juliet you guys are practically town in my book from your ISOs. Though a bit iffy on Juliet, your posts do still look to actually move the game forward (with a bit of worrisome parroting by Juliet). WP if any of ya flips scum, but you're my town pool for now.

I do apologize for my inactivity the past 2 days but the game was pretty slow and easy to ISO thankfully.

We yeet Fuji/Pepper and we r done here. Let's at the very least actually pressure them while I entertain you on why they are the rats we are looking for.

I already went over pepper's ISO last phase. He/she has absolutely no content but mechanical talk, then talk about jester and past games with added poor reaction to T-pein's 'gut' read. There is not a single bit of game solving in their posts and I would really appreciate it if you guys would share their meta with me or lemme know if they are new player or not. I messed up in trying to find their scummate yesterday and did not properly ISO Fuji, but now that ISO'ed him carefully I can see this: (Please try to follow it all)



Meh opener vote on me. I don't even recall actually reacting to it. He choses me out of 4 other inactives at that time (being me, Juliet, Pepper, and Rej). Again this isn't too bad for reaction purposes, but he never went back to it.


Zero content post.


Going for reactions again here from the looks for it. Reactions that he never comes back to, to the point where the post becomes nothing but meaningless fluff. That's 3 of them now.



Painting this horrid troll idea of 3-8 when this setup is 99.99% a 2-9 setup, given how there is a vig.
This is NAI yes, but having a wrong idea about the setup ruins town's perception of lylo and vote tracking. Painting that idea onto others is horrible, specially relating it to a different game. Also noting the fact that he never plays or game solve toward this idea to begin with.
This is what I call fake content. He has to pretend to be contributing and this is the best he could come up with at that current time.


This isnt REALLY a TMI case on him. I mean, I still call town town and scum scum so yeah, nothing wrong with this really. It simply happens since this is an unusual setup, so this is NAI for now.


Buddying super hard with @Mango Senpai here.


A slick way to avoid that interaction, given how he mentioned not wanting to comment much on it now, but agrees it is weird. It reads like he wants to just cut it off right here. He wouldn't wanna tunnel too deep on Mango early on because he knows Mango is town. So instead buddies Mango and runs away from an interaction with him.
Town!Fuji's play here would be to look more into Mango's jump on him and take that interaction whole heartedly and expand on it instead of run away from it.


I am mostly inactive so this a pretty weak push with no actual resistance or reaction from me and he knows that. Again just faked content all together. No actual scum hunting whatsoever. ;/




You see it was day 1 so this stuff can sometimes get a pass. Hardcore fluff and no case whatsoever on his vote. Best u can get here is reactions but he never came back to it later on to push me for a reaction he obtained, because there really was none, and that was not his goal to begin with. That was a fluff vote, not a reaction vote. Period.
Basically it is pretty poor to just keep the vote laying on me like that for no apparent reason given how he avoided talking about it and avoided interactions with others, and avoided partaking in the day 1 lynch whatsoever. The lynch that had Nessos, Mango, Gambit as wagon. All 3 town.


Hmm still goes back to me again here.
It's almost funny how nothing in the game interests him but an afk player (me).
This is bad, pretty bad. Screams wolf here.
Says he's going to catch up but nothing of value is said after that. Very poor post. He caught up but never actually said anything.


Big oof here.
Painting Udell's death on Mango, and does not consider any other possibilities of Mango being framed.
I regret not reading this ISO properly last day honestly. This is pretty wolfy play here. His vote on Mango was placed very easily with a pretty ridiculously linear reason that he never actually bothered expanding on.
He never suspected Mango at any point in the game prior to this either so this sudden vote is extremely horrid, special given how his suspicion on me on the entirety of day 1 is magically gone on day 2 without me making a single post.
Not to mention this part of his post "Wait a sec, rats can kill 2 people or was there a vig kill as well as a rat kill?" looks extremely forced and fake. Does not add anything to the game.


Says to look into the people Udell did NOT want out, but votes Mango, who Udell wanted out THE MOST.
This is just the ultimate inconsistency here right now. And even added an activity excuse to it.
GET THIS RAT OUTTA HERE GUYS!!!




Another back to back activity excuse here.
And look at this part of his post: "he wanted Mango out, he also wanted Peper out i think?"
This is the kinda posts where you mention your scummate for a small bus but never actually bother pushing them. Instead he is so adamant on Mango and only actually swaps to T-pein, all while providing absolutely no tangible case on either. He will not swap to pepper.



I know I messed it up a bit with the T-pein wagon yesterday, but if none has a better lead other than Fuji/Pepper, they should be our yeet for today. If anyone has some other suggestions I am open for them, but they should be ready to defend their opinions and cases please.
Also you imbecile, you hosted a godamn turbo game yesterday for which i subbed out of because i told you was going out of town.
 
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Vote Lynch Gambit, i should've went with my gut feeling, Leaving Usopp alive is good for rats because they can pin the vote switch onto him.

Rej was onto Gambit, a lot.
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Im an associate.

No shit Ussop isn't scum, he doesn't pull shit like that when he is.

I townread Ussop after the stuff that happened yesterday, for damn sure.
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If you are town then don't be a godamn idiot, you spam pinged me here and even told me on WG to come here because you pinged me.

And you were asking to break the tie.

If you're scum and this was all a tactic from you, then shame on you. To think you would go to such lengths to win a random mafia game.

Which means i townread you, for your sake.

If you're scum, i'm never playing with you ever again.
Weren't you town reading me early on? Where's the gut feeling comin from?
I was not on at the EoD 1.



Town - Gambit, Ekkologix
50/50 - Mango
Scum - Pepper, Fuji

I'm guessing janitor is a 1 shot.



Why is Pepper a town read to you?
That's my initial notion. Cud change depending on how he runs the dayphase.
@Pepper @Juliet why didn't you vote yesterday?

rej > pein
usopp > tpein
mango > tpein

gambit > mango
tpein > mango
fuji > mango

I was a part of the mango voters till Usopp spam pinged me to break the tie. Making a godamn case about Pein.

Either he's scum trying to save scum Mango or he's a dumb townie.

Pein died.

Rej who voted Pain died.


Mango could still be bad as i voted him really early on last phase.

Gambit imo looks really bad here because all of his guesses for who scum his turned out to be false, and he isn't that bad of a player. Imo could be scum Powerwolfing.

I still don't understand why Peper or Juliet didn't vote.
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Explain to me how i'm scum? I only voted Pein because Usopp tagged me 3k times asking me to and i wasn't gonna do it until i saw that there was a tie, and i didn't want the day to end in a tie again like D1.

Just because i've been extremely busy doesn't make me scum.
Explain why I am scum, too in your book? I am townread by most of the players here but you. And Lolololol.

And why did I become bad after their flips. Are u saying that I am bad cuz I townread u D1? Cmon. U could do better.

Where's your Pepper assessment?
 
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Weren't you town reading me early on? Where's the gut feeling comin from?

That's my initial notion. Cud change depending on how he runs the dayphase.

Explain why I am scum, too in your book? I am townread by most of the players here but you. And Lolololol.

And why did I become bad after their flips. Are u saying that I am bad cuz I townread u D1? Cmon. U could do better.

Where's your Pepper assessment?
What pepper assessment?

I changed my mind about you, you've been wrong on all your reads so far.

They all turned out to be mafia, and i don't believe you're a bad player by any stretch of the imagination.

Therefore i think you're scum powerwolfing.
 
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Tbh, this post is a goddamn defensive to the highest level. More excuses and more shading attempt.
 
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@Pepper @Juliet
Explain to me how i'm scum? I only voted Pein because Usopp tagged me 3k times asking me to and i wasn't gonna do it until i saw that there was a tie, and i didn't want the day to end in a tie again like D1.

Just because i've been extremely busy doesn't make me scum.
I'm scum reading Pepper and when I saw Ekkologix talk about you and Pepper on his wall posts I started to get suspicious of you.
 
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Tbh, this post is a goddamn defensive to the highest level. More excuses and more shading attempt.
No defense, i'm pissed off at Ussop.
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I'm scum reading Pepper and when I saw Ekkologix talk about you and Pepper on his wall posts I started to get suspicious of you.
I am mafia and



This dude.

Associate.


So basically you're sus of me because Usopp is sus of me?
 
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