Wolfgang Thread

[Trafalgar Law]

I am glad to see that people like host colours and countdowns

Saw that on other forum your game reminded to use it ! Look fancy

 

[AL.]

Saw that on other forum your game reminded to use it ! Look fancy

which forum??

 

[Rej]

scum lasts longer with claim restrictions, and town have more work to do to figure out each other, it's more interesting indeed,
while allowed claiming can speed up games, its good for people that like fast games and like to be lazy later on when town is massclaimed and infodumping like crazy

 

[Trafalgar Law]

which forum??

Mafiascum.net

An dedicated mafia forum...have wonderful games..
But are way too slow..
Some games even have 3 day DP phase..which sucks .
Take 3-6 month to finish one game..
But there r multiple games and some are fast too
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scum lasts longer with claim restrictions, and town have more work to do to figure out each other, it's more interesting indeed,
while allowed claiming can speed up games, its good for people that like fast games and like to be lazy later on when town is massclaimed and infodumping like crazy

Yeah...but our boys lack patience specially when it comes to unknown theme..
And you can balance it with enough number of invest type roles

 

[AL.]

Mafiascum.net

An dedicated mafia forum...have wonderful games..
But are way too slow..
Some games even have 3 day DP phase..which sucks .
Take 3-6 month to finish one game..
But there r multiple games and some are fast too

oh MS yeah I know

 

[Gambit]

@AL. And @Rej for president and VP. Uhm @Waindo for secretary of foreign affarts

 

[Trafalgar Law]

I'll need a sub for my game..

 

[AL.]

can't you guys follow the rules

 

[Dragomir]

I'll need a sub for my game..

I'll join.

can't you guys follow the rules

What happened?

 

[AL.]

What happened?

let it be

nothing much

 

[Trafalgar Law]

join

Thanx ! I'll add you

 

[Nessos]

scum lasts longer with claim restrictions, and town have more work to do to figure out each other, it's more interesting indeed,
while allowed claiming can speed up games, its good for people that like fast games and like to be lazy later on when town is massclaimed and infodumping like crazy

Yeah but it doesn't change about certain Town behaviour. Far too many player act like that everyone saw their rolesheet or Host started the game with telling everyone they are town and come up with shitty OMGUS in a way "You Vote for Town you are scum".

It is super annoying.... A real pain in the ass... Always have to fart when reading this shit.... So yeah I fart a lot when playing Mafia here....

 

[Rej]

Yeah but it doesn't change about certain Town behaviour. Far too many player act like that everyone saw their rolesheet or Host started the game with telling everyone they are town and come up with shitty OMGUS in a way "You Vote for Town you are scum".

It is super annoying.... A real pain in the ass... Always have to fart when reading this shit.... So yeah I fart a lot when playing Mafia here....

Yes I fart too, but farting is relief, meh

 

[Beky]

I actually have a game ready to host in case i need to fill in someone and i 100% believe mafia roles are OP as all hell but i know people will missplay them

 

[Nessos]

The problem with claiming is that super fast player force others to claim. Claiming in general makes sense as last resort.

When talking about claims we should also differ between the 3 different Game types.

• ToS: Fixed roles everyone can look up. Claiming part of the game. This Game is based on claiming.
• Reg: Because of the huge WU, claiming makes sense, but should only be considered as last esort.
• Trad: Claiming doesn't make anysense. Roles can be anything and there is no WU and not to mention that infodump barely exist. Players should accuse each other and build their reads by observing stuff like coasting, cautious and passive behaviour, OMGUS and so on.

 

[Beky]

If you wanna fix claiming just make it so that when you claim you lose ability to be protected

 

[Rej]

If you wanna fix claiming just make it so that when you claim you lose ability to be protected

interesting punishment method, would like to see that in action

The problem with claiming is that super fast player force others to claim. Claiming in general makes sense as last resort.

When talking about claims we should also differ between the 3 different Game types.

• ToS: Fixed roles everyone can look up. Claiming part of the game. This Game is based on claiming.
• Reg: Because of the huge WU, claiming makes sense, but should only be considered as last esort.
• Trad: Claiming doesn't make anysense. Roles can be anything and there is Nlno WU and not to mention that infodump barely exist. Players should accuse each other and build their reads by observing stuff like coasting, cautious and passive behaviour, OMGUS and so on.

exactly, this makes all three game modes unique, and this makes trad unique and original, claiming in trad would make it just another ToS with random roles and less info dump through WU

 

[Beky]

interesting punishment method, would like to see that in action

Well it would incline people to hold for their claim a bit longer.

I personally don't mind claiming as much as i dislike info dumping.
One thing is to say - I am Bakugou and i can attack people
Another thing is to say - I am Bakugou and i have an ability that allows me to pierce someone's defense and cause them damage they can't avoid or be protected from

TBH if i was to restrict claiming in my games it would def be to forbid info dump like that. Rest is allowed.

 

[Rej]

Well it would incline people to hold for their claim a bit longer.

I personally don't mind claiming as much as i dislike info dumping.
One thing is to say - I am Bakugou and i can attack people
Another thing is to say - I am Bakugou and i have an ability that allows me to pierce someone's defense and cause them damage they can't avoid or be protected from

TBH if i was to restrict claiming in my games it would def be to forbid info dump like that. Rest is allowed.

Oh that was my initially idea, to forbid info dumping but allow just flavour claim for example.
There is many variations and I see so many different hosts have different opinions. But it keeps ideas, inspirations and such incomming lel.
Also yeah full claiming really should be shut down, that's really some ToS stuff there with full claims.

 

[Nessos]

Flavour claim doesn't make much sense in Trad either. Again everyone can claim anything and scum used to have fake flavours anyway.

Then you have Role&Flavour Claims. Then you have to think about if it reasonable, if is a lie or did host fucked. Sometimes it makes even more sense to fakeclaim.because Host totally build up a shitty that anyone would see as scum while actually is Town.


Trad has no infodump. The only infodump that exist is the stuff of invest.
It should be discussed if its allowed for invests to share their infodump. But flavour-, role-/ability- and/or action-claim have no real buisness in trad.