Characters and Groups Next Strawhat Nakama

[Lemonade]

I'm ok if Perona joins the SHs.

 

[Shottie]

how am i suppose to explain and defend my points on who i believe is going to join the crew if i can't refute those who are against my opinion?

The point is it's your opinion, not the chance to change other's opinions.

 

[KoonKoooon!!]

The point is it's your opinion, not the chance to change other's opinions.
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I don't want to change their opinions, i want to further expand my opinion by giving them a counter opinion to their opinion.
So can i please keep discussing as to why i believe Monet will be the next Strawhat?

 

[Rej]

dude atleast has some interesting points for monet, but imho monet lacks the build up to be nakama, tho I love alot of the monet theories around, they always bring something interesting to the table.

I think @Tokiro Oumaga had very nice theories back then on OJ about Monet being a potent candidate back then.

 

[KoonKoooon!!]

dude atleast has some interesting points for monet, but imho monet lacks the build up to be nakama, tho I love alot of the monet theories around, they always bring something interesting to the table.

I think @Tokiro Oumaga had very nice theories back then on OJ about Monet being a potent candidate back then.

Well i totally agree with the part that Monet lacks build up as Nakama, but i think she has a lot of potential.

 

[AL.]

Well i totally agree with the part that Monet lacks build up as Nakama, but i think she has a lot of potential.

first of all as far we know she is dead and even if she is alive I don't see any reason for her to join the SH crew

 

[Shottie]

ANYWAY moving on with this discussion away from being off topic.

 

[KoonKoooon!!]

Edit: I created a new thread, but my comments were redirected in this one.

first of all as far we know she is dead and even if she is alive I don't see any reason for her to join the SH crew

If the situation was as clear-cut as Pound where nothing is left to interpretation, i wouldn't protest. However the manga indicates otherwise with the scene of Caesar on the ground, Monet's heart and the weapon beside him separated. As well as the snow falling shortly when Monet fell on the floor then stopping, exactly like the time where Monet was going to put Luffy to sleep, an identical technique.

The reason is obvious, aside from being the Lookout, her role is essential to be able to reach the One Piece, she has the knowledge to deal with the strange occurences in the new world and the moons.
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Mihawk will be on the move soon and Perona will get separated. She bumps into the Mugiwaras and becomes nakama finally.

sadly my perona nakama theory is gone, but yeah my call since over a year, I will follow that track for a bit more xD

I'm ok if Perona joins the SHs.

Honestly Perona would be a great Nakama, she had fit even better than Monet in the crows nest with Zoro's relationship and her powers are also superior to Monet for the Lookout position and scouting. Her ghost could cover the entirety of Thriller Bark. PLus Brook hate ghosts, it had make super comedic scenes. Her interaction with Usopp would be interesting and if she uses her negative hollow on other Strawhats. I would like to see Nami get hit by it.

However there can only be one Lookout and i prefer Monet, she will be far more important in the story with her knowledge. Nami is the navigation, Robin is the Poneglyphs and Monet will be the mysterious forces and phenomenons that occur in the One Piece world and the moons.

In fact, Oden last wish was to open the borders of Wano, i don't know if its to the literal sense or a political change. In any case with the full island map shown in the last chapter, Monet is the single person who knows how to open the physical borders, she's the only one to know how to solve this mistery.
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It's not a theory, and to say "there is no evidence that he restarted his heart with his df" is incorrect


There is no evidence that space travel is needed to become pirate king, that is a baseless statement

And even if it is there are other astronomers in the world, navigators use the stars the navigate at night and are well versed in constellations

If Monet were to give up on Doffy as her boss it would've made more sense for her to reappear in Dressrosa to have her understand that Dofflamingo is a bad person
Not 4 arcs later when Doflamingo and Monet are no longer relevant

There has been no mention of the crew needing to go to space, you're making an assumption based on your own expectations

IF Monet is alive there is no reason/need for her to join the Strawhat crew nor would she even want to

So if i understand correctly the enel stuff is off topic, therefore i will let it go.

There's also no evidence that space travel is not needed to become pirate king, but i wasn't refering solely to space travel, more like the strange phenomenons in the one piece world, ie invisible raftel or reverse mountain.

The One Piece world is not Earth by the way, as such you can't use our stars and our navigation system to navigate the One Piece world. Besides Nami was never shown to use the stars to sail in the story. In fact, i could make the argument that the One Piece Astronomers don't use the stars to orient themselves, but the very moons themselves, as there are 7 of them and their size and brightness obstruct the far away stars in the background since they are quite close to the main planet.

Just as it would have made more sense for Jinbei to join when Luffy invited him to his crew not 4 arcs after. Bellamy was reintroduced in Monet's stead for that purpose as there a clear parallel between them. I take this opportunity to say that Bellamy will come around and be a Strawhat fleet captain, i believe every Strawhats will have a division captain under them. Then Monet is going to have Bellamy division under her command in the same manner that Bartolomeo represents Luffy and Hajrudin is to Usopp. Mind you, Monet's heart is on the Sunny.

The aim is to make assumptions though.

Same reasons as below, to go on adventures and solve or witness for herself the misteries of the One Piece world. I think she's vital to reach the One Piece too. Luffy is her savior, she will definitely want to join his crew.

Since when is knowledge about the Moons needed? I always thought Robin is the key, because you need to able to read the Red Poneglyphs. And with Jinbei there already joined someone with experience about the chaotic sea n not to mention that Strawhats have Nami.



Doflamingo saved them so they decided to throw away their lives for their new family. They got their DFs after joining Doflamingos crew.


Based on what we know about the BGstory we can expect like Hancock and her sister. Maybe Sugar doesn't know Monet died.

If Monet is alive she will Most likely search for her sister and the rest of her family. Maybe trying to start a rescues mission similar to what we have seen with Baroque Works Cover Story.


Another reason why I doubt that Monet is going to join. I see no reason for her to move forward on the GL.

Robin and the Poneglyphs are for the hystory of the world and her dream is to learn about the history. For example, Robin can't explain how reverse mountain works but i think Monet could or when Capone's ship went up and got stuck on a big structure. Also the Red Poneglyphs just show the destination, although it's said that Raftel is invisible, no one can find it. What i'm saying is there is more to it then just arriving at the location where all 4 Red Poneglyph connects. Moreover the One Piece may not even be at Raftel. I think Jinbei is for the chaotic sea currents, Nami special skills is mostly feeling the air pressure, so she can detect storms. Then Monet is for the Strange forces which weren't explained yet like the cause of the strong magnetism(log pose cop out) field of each island on Grandline and it gets more powerful in the new world.

Yes, but don't ignore my comment too, if you don't know what im referencing by lie, manipulate and used her loyalty against her. At one point in time, Doflamingo told Monet he wanted to become the Pirate King, when that's completely false as in Dressrosa he mentioned his ultimate goal is to destroy this world.

I think Sugar don't even know Monet at all, i mean. I don't see it, the relation with Monet and Sugar, they are just sisters by name like Doflamingo and Corazon, they got nothing in comon. Sugar is beyond saving, she enslaved people without remorse while there's still hope for Monet, she's finally freed from Doflamingo's shackles. Also she has to go find her heart, its on the Sunny.

Of course the reason is to go on adventures and solve or witness for herself the misteries of the One Piece world. In a similar way to Jinbei, to be able for the first time in her life to live for herself.

 

[edogama]

Mink : Carrot. Perfect for lookout position, a woman, a mink (has electricity & Sulong), non DFU, and has a goal (carry on Pedro's legacy).
Samurai : Kawamatsu. A samurai. His physique so unique, non DFU, funny guy, but still hasn't a long goal for this moment.
Other candidates: Vivi (become proper crew), Perona, Bonney

 

[Lemonade]

Mink : Koala. Perfect for lookout position, a woman, a mink (has electricity & Sulong), non DFU, and has a goal (carry on Pedro's legacy).
Samurai : Kawamatsu. A samurai. His physique so unique, non DFU, funny guy, but still hasn't a long goal for this moment.
Other candidates: Vivi (become proper crew), Perona, Bonney

But isn't Zoro in a way considered to be a Samurai?

Also I'm guessing you mean Carrot for the mink? Koala's a Revolutionary

 

[KoonKoooon!!]

Mink : Koala. Perfect for lookout position, a woman, a mink (has electricity & Sulong), non DFU, and has a goal (carry on Pedro's legacy).
Samurai : Kawamatsu. A samurai. His physique so unique, non DFU, funny guy, but still hasn't a long goal for this moment.
Other candidates: Vivi (become proper crew), Perona, Bonney

I just don't see how Carrot is a perfect Lookout when you have people like Perona and Monet.

From what it looks like Kawamatsu is a fishman like Jinbei, they both have webbed hands.

This is a thread to discuss and share wishes, speculations and theories about the next Strawhat Nakama.

Spoiler: Strawhat pattern theories

Here I am going to list famous Strawhat pattern theories

Spoiler: MFMM

Grandline Nakamas followed the famous MFMM pattern
M Zoro, Chopper
F Nami, Robin
M Usopp, Franky
M Sanji, Brook

Thats why many expect also the NW Nakamas will follow these patterns.
(This theory was actually Upgrades multiple times)

Spoiler: Devil Fruit numbers

Currently there are 4 Devil Fruit user among the Strawhats. The names of their 4 Devil Fruits are actually combinations of 2 numbers.

• Gomu - 5/6
• Hito - 1/10
• Hana - 2/7
• Yomi - 4/3

Thats why many expect a Devil Fruit user will join, And that the Name His Devil Fruit is a combination of 8 and 9.
-> Yako Yako no Mi or Koya Koya no Mi

Spoiler: Chinese Zodiac

The Chinese Zodiac consist of 12 animals by adding the legend of the Legend there are actually 13. Right now there can be assigned one of these 13 animals to the Strawhats. Thats why many expect new Nakamas can be assigned to the remaining animals.

1. Rat - ???
2. Ox - Franky
3. Tiger - Zoro
4. Rabbit - ???
5. Dragon - ???
6. Snake - Usopp
7. Horse - Brook
8. Goat - Sanji
9. Monkey - Luffy
10. Rooster - Robin
11. Dog - Chopper
12. Pig - Jinbei
13. Cat - Nami

Spoiler: Roman Alphabet

AB Brook
CD Chopper
EF Franky
GH ???
IJ Jinbei
KL Luffy
MN Nami
OP ???
QR Robin
ST Sanji
UV Usopp
WX ???
YZ Zoro

If you know more Strawhat pattern theories feel free to tag me I will add them.

Oh yeah, there's one more, each Strawhat will have a fleet captain.

11 Strawhats
Luffy - Bartolomeo
Zoro - Cavendish
Sanji - Sai
Usopp - Hajrudin
Franky - Leo
Nami - Orlumbus
+ 5
Jinbei - Kawamatsu(for the samurais)
Chopper - Carrot(for the minks)
Monet - Bellamy(was included in the grand fleet cover story)
+ 2
Brook - A Ninja
Robin - Crocodile?

Edit : i forgot Ideo, well maybe replace him with Crocodile

 

[edogama]

But isn't Zoro in a way considered to be a Samurai?

Also I'm guessing you mean Carrot for the mink? Koala's a Revolutionary

Samurai usually fighting with 2 swords. Yeah, I get it. Zoro considered to be a Samurai. But for me, Zoro & Brook is swordsman, a broader term. In the OP world, Samurai refers to swordsman from Wano.
Same as for anyone who support Kinemon become nakama in the past, it's interesting if SHP have "three musketeers".
To be honest, I feel the chance Wano Samurai to join SHP is a bit low.

Yes, thank you for the correction. It's Carrot

I just don't see how Carrot is a perfect Lookout when you have people like Perona and Monet.

From what it looks like Kawamatsu is a fishman like Jinbei, they both have webbed hands.

Monet's status unknown, let's assume she's dead for now. Well, when story still Punk Hazard arc, I also support her to become next nakama. Too bad. Her status same as Vergo & Yeti Cool Brothers.
Perona interesting too, but she still attached to Moria.
I agree Monet & Perona fit to become lookout. But In my opinion, Carrot's chance is higher than them.

 

[Jake Wu Long]

A few days ago, Oda in an interview in a youtube channel said: "i would like to finish One Piece in five years".

Now my question is:

Why people insists in new nakamas when the whole story is in it's final courtain?

Jinbei could be considering as an actual nakama. And Carrot is the only character that already has chances to become one. I think that's all.

 

[Lemonade]

A few days ago, Oda in an interview in a youtube channel said: "i would like to finish One Piece in five years".

Now my question is:

Why people insists in new nakamas when the whole story is in it's final courtain?

Jinbei could be considering as an actual nakama. And Carrot is the only character that already has chances to become one. I think that's all.

It's likely just Jinbe given the extensive backstory and interactions with Luffy/SHs. Carrot was somewhat important in WCI but disappeared in Wano. Every SH played a role in Wano (Jinbe's whereabouts unknown but he'll make an important major entrance later), so it's weird Carrot is basically a background character. Doesn't seem SH material.

 

[Jake Wu Long]

It's likely just Jinbe given the extensive backstory and interactions with Luffy/SHs. Carrot was somewhat important in WCI but disappeared in Wano. Every SH played a role in Wano (Jinbe's whereabouts unknown but he'll make an important major entrance later), so it's weird Carrot is basically a background character. Doesn't seem SH material.

Is like Oda give a step back to Carrot after all her protagonism she had in Whole Cake Island. But we only will know when the war begins and every StrawHat fight with Kaido's army. If Carrot continues or leave after Mink's alliance is done.

 

[Deleted member 146]

No new strawhats (Jinbei is already one in my view)

There will be more allies but no one who will be a proper strawhat. Definitely not carrot at the very least. IF there is going to be another one, it will be a solo Wano character, but that is quite unlikely as well.

 

[Lemonade]

Is like Oda give a step back to Carrot after all her protagonism she had in Whole Cake Island. But we only will know when the war begins and every StrawHat fight with Kaido's army. If Carrot continues or leave after Mink's alliance is done.

I think Carrot should be doing something important to the plot like rest of SHs. Maybe she is... if she's the traitor.

 

[Jake Wu Long]

I think Carrot should be doing something important to the plot like rest of SHs. Maybe she is... if she's the traitor.

She could be the famous traitor, maybe. I don't think so because apart of the emotional impact for Minks and Mugiwaras, what impact in terms of power balance could Carrot brings to the Kaido's forces? What would be the motivation for Carrot to be a traitor considering Perdro's feelings on Carrot? Why Oda would repeat a traitor scene like Pudding's in Whole Cake?

Carrot is not even close to Neko and Inu's level to make a real difference to any alliance.

 

[KoonKoooon!!]

Monet's status unknown, let's assume she's dead for now. Well, when story still Punk Hazard arc, I also support her to become next nakama. Too bad. Her status same as Vergo & Yeti Cool Brothers.
Perona interesting too, but she still attached to Moria.
I agree Monet & Perona fit to become lookout. But In my opinion, Carrot's chance is higher than them.

It seems saying she's dead or she's alive is off topic, so i will just leave it as i think she's alive for now.
Carrot's chances shouldn't be very high because she has no special Lookout ability. As shown with Jinbei, riding a Tsunami, the Helmsman and Lookout need extraordinary capability to fit their position.

Perona lived away from Moria for 2 years now, she can make her own decisions. If her storyline is simply to reunite with Moria, then it's irrelevant for her character, she simply return to where she started and no progression.

A few days ago, Oda in an interview in a youtube channel said: "i would like to finish One Piece in five years".

Now my question is:

Why people insists in new nakamas when the whole story is in it's final courtain?

Jinbei could be considering as an actual nakama. And Carrot is the only character that already has chances to become one. I think that's all.

I answer you by another question, what do you think of this cover page?

The Strawhat crew could be 11 or 13, i don't mind either way.


As for Carrot i thought it became clear in Wano that Oda made her come aboard the Sunny for Mink fanservice and the idea was solidified when her major moment in WCI was to give the readers a preview of Sulong. She has a cool design and she's badass, but she's pretty much an empty character.

 

[Jake Wu Long]

It seems saying she's dead or she's alive is off topic, so i will just leave it as i think she's alive for now.
Carrot's chances shouldn't be very high because she has no special Lookout ability. As shown with Jinbei, riding a Tsunami, the Helmsman and Lookout need extraordinary capability to fit their position.

Perona lived away from Moria for 2 years now, she can make her own decisions. If her storyline is simply to reunite with Moria, then it's irrelevant for her character, she simply return to where she started and no progression.




I answer you by another question, what do you think of this cover page?

The Strawhat crew could be 11 or 13, i don't mind either way.


As for Carrot i thought it became clear in Wano that Oda made her come aboard the Sunny for Mink fanservice and the idea was solidified when her major moment in WCI was to give the readers a preview of Sulong. She has a cool design and she's badass, but she's pretty much an empty character.

I think that the

It seems saying she's dead or she's alive is off topic, so i will just leave it as i think she's alive for now.
Carrot's chances shouldn't be very high because she has no special Lookout ability. As shown with Jinbei, riding a Tsunami, the Helmsman and Lookout need extraordinary capability to fit their position.

Perona lived away from Moria for 2 years now, she can make her own decisions. If her storyline is simply to reunite with Moria, then it's irrelevant for her character, she simply return



I answer you by another question, what do you think of this cover page?

The Strawhat crew could be 11 or 13, i don't mind either way.


As for Carrot i thought it became clear in Wano that Oda made her come aboard the Sunny for Mink fanservice and the idea was solidified when her major moment in WCI was to give the readers a preview of Sulong. She has a cool design and she's badass, but she's pretty much an empty character.

It seems saying she's dead or she's alive is off topic, so i will just leave it as i think she's alive for now.
Carrot's chances shouldn't be very high because she has no special Lookout ability. As shown with Jinbei, riding a Tsunami, the Helmsman and Lookout need extraordinary capability to fit their position.

Perona lived away from Moria for 2 years now, she can make her own decisions. If her storyline is simply to reunite with Moria, then it's irrelevant for her character, she simply return to where she started and no progression.




I answer you by another question, what do you think of this cover page?

The Strawhat crew could be 11 or 13, i don't mind either way.


As for Carrot i thought it became clear in Wano that Oda made her come aboard the Sunny for Mink fanservice and the idea was solidified when her major moment in WCI was to give the readers a preview of Sulong. She has a cool design and she's badass, but she's pretty much an empty character.

I think that the cover page is cute (let's read with Franky's voice).

Carrot as you said has a cool design, is popular, female, has a different race, but yeah her true motivations as "i want to trip looking for adventures" is not strong enough motivation for me to sail the whole One Piece World and make Luffy pirate king.

But in Oda's mind all could happen.