[FIN] Traditional Mafia The Gang Plays Mafia [Mafia Championship Practice]

[Stray Cat]

Current Town reads in no specific order:

Michelle, Onadaga, Beky, Dragomir, Rej, Ted, Poison, Juliet

Neutral reads:

Oreki, Law(did he even post yet?)

Scum reads:

Nessos, Gambit/joby, Samael.
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@Trafalgar Law where are you?

 

[tedxtr]

Give him a rainbow.
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Honestly not sure about Beky, although Nessos vs Beky gives off TvW vibes, but I'm leaning towards Nessos being the wolf. Beky could have just stuck to Town reading me, but the fact he seems to do constant reevaluating gives me more of a Town lean on him. Also him stating he'd be "pleasantly surprised" if I was scum seems too natural to be faked. So my current scum reads are Nessos, joby/Gambit and Samael.

Beky never town read you in the first place.

 

[Stray Cat]

Beky never town read you in the first place.

Yes, he did:

Agreed. She didn't panic and maintained composure when answering.

I won't wanna presume it is a strong wolf behind it but will be pleasantly surprised if it is lol

 

[tedxtr]

Wow that's weak.

Beky, can you explain where the inconsistency lies in Stray's posts?

 

[Rej]

What do you want? A rainbow, GTH?

What you prefer.
I will do one when home.
For now I side with those that suspect Nessos, joby, Samael, seems like a good lynchpool.

 

[Dragomir]

What you prefer.
I will do one when home.
For now I side with those that suspect Nessos, joby, Samael, seems like a good lynchpool.

You make me a list of all the players or those that you're most interested in and I'll give you a GTH.

 

[Onadaga]

Can you eloberate why you think Michelle and Becky are Town since the beginning of Day 1?

yea later on i did, idk if u've seen already

 

[tedxtr]

Lol nessos is town.

 

[Stray Cat]

Lol nessos is town.

Can you elaborate on that?

 

[tedxtr]

Tell me why you scum read him first

 

[Beky]

Wow that's weak.

Beky, can you explain where the inconsistency lies in Stray's posts?

I legit did several times by now. You are more than welcomed to read it.

 

[Stray Cat]

Tell me why you scum read him first

Explained it there:

What bugs me about Nessos is this quote:



No, not Michelle is threatened by anything, it seems like Nessos feels threatened by her.

The " gaining Town creds" thing doesn't add up. Because Townies don't need Town cred, that's what scum needs to avoid suspicion.
So why mention that when it comes to joby and Gambit?


Now, what could pose a threat to Nessos? That his buddies have been found? Yes, that could indeed cause somebody to slip.

Not saying that the two in question are scum, but they are scummy in my book, but I'm pretty sure Nessos and at least one of joby and Gambit are scum.

Not liking him twisting Michelle's posts either.

Add to this the fact that Town Nessos hates it when people twist posts and there you go.

 

[Beky]

Ted this is 2nd time i find that you dont read my posts and you just pick out shit that make me look scummy. And this is 2nd time i called you out on it

 

[tedxtr]

I legit did several times by now. You are more than welcomed to read it.

Do it again, please. I see stuff about composure, I remember you telling someone about Stray's inconsistency in her story but you never gave an example of where that would be seen or why that's scum indicative.

I just made a wall with all people's posts, I was focused on too many things and skipped a few posts, what's scum indicative about it?

 

[Beky]

but you never gave an example of where that would be seen or why that's scum indicative.

I legit did.
I also said to Dragomir i will ISO it when i get from work since i don't wanna do it over mobile

what's scum indicative about it?

Nothing. I just find it annoying on personal level and doesn't make me wanna be interested in discussing with you since i dislike repeating myself

 

[Nessos]

yea later on i did, idk if u've seen already

Missed it, I am honest I actually just skimmed through the first 9 pages. Would be cool if you can repeat it and tell me if you still fell the same about them. I questioned it because for me it was too early to hand out Towncreds.
And based on their "Oh Beky how do you think about that" "Oh Michelle what abou that?" posts right after I questioned your early Towncreds on them, it somehow forced me to ask the accused players how they feel about the buddy train against them.

Nessos you probably are the designated mislynch at some point. Your question about "how do you feel about..." was rather scummy lol.

Loved reading your post. And I have no problem ending up.being a misslynch as long as Town manage to find scum through it!
Mafia is about winning and not about surviving! Cautious player are the scummiest for me.

 

[tedxtr]

First, I want to say defensiveness is not a scum tell.

Moving on, Nesso's thought process (or as I see it, at least) is that he was trying to gain reactions from his scum reads. Michelle reacted unreasonably and a bit out of character, Nesso perceived it as a slight defence of gambit and joby, while still explaining to Michelle that his way of sorting people also works.

Your gaining town credit is...well. He was referring to joby and gambit as scum and gaining town credit, not town gaining town credit.

And everything out of there is pure WIFOM and you are biased. Nobody accused joby and gambit except for you, which was a post ago. It's a very thin line to walk on, you're basically saying he's scum for being defensive about something that was really out of character and uncalled for Michelle. He wasn't being defensive because his buddies were outed lol.
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I legit did.
I also said to Dragomir i will ISO it when i get from work since i don't wanna do it over mobile


Nothing. I just find it annoying on personal level and doesn't make me wanna be interested in discussing with you since i dislike repeating myself

You angled it to be a scum thing though.
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Nessos can you go step by step on what your thought process was with Michelle and your other scum reads?

To be honest, there might be a language barrier and that's people's issue with it. Because of that, I'm also paying attention to people pushing you. I feel like you have a really easy train of thought to follow, so that's why I want you to emphasise your thoughts, step by step.

 

[Onadaga]

thanks for calling me funny it made me happy. i never explained why i townread michelle, its cuz i felt as though she's very dis-attached from the thread (despite being sleepy, thats separate) and, like, being in her own world doing her own thing. i feel as if she was scum she would try to enter other's people's worlds or stuff

beky cuz yea he had that one moment where i said i think its too ridiculous to come from scum. later on i like him aswell, solid town read

i never explained the rej townread too, it was due to him mentioning from the start about something something michelle being angry and unreasonable, and michelle also sayin "rej doesnt kno how to read me" so obviously there must have been some beef between them in a past game where they were both town, and i think opening up with the emotional angle like that from the start is towny (for rej)

and yeah i said im town cuz im town

@Nessos

 

[Stray Cat]

First, I want to say defensiveness is not a scum tell.

Moving on, Nesso's thought process (or as I see it, at least) is that he was trying to gain reactions from his scum reads. Michelle reacted unreasonably and a bit out of character, Nesso perceived it as a slight defence of gambit and joby, while still explaining to Michelle that his way of sorting people also works.

Your gaining town credit is...well. He was referring to joby and gambit as scum and gaining town credit, not town gaining town credit.

And everything out of there is pure WIFOM and you are biased. Nobody accused joby and gambit except for you, which was a post ago. It's a very thin line to walk on, you're basically saying he's scum for being defensive about something that was really out of character and uncalled for Michelle. He wasn't being defensive because his buddies were outed lol.

That's not how I perceived that thing, though.

Not Michelle was defending joby and Gambit, Nessos was defending them. Hence his line about the suspects and Town creds. There are also double standards involved when he accuses Onadaga, Michelle and Beky buddying while he himself is openly buddying with joby and Gambit which Michelle noticed to which Nessos went all defensive. So given that, how is that a Town behaviour, exactly?

 

[Beky]

You angled it to be a scum thing though.

See it how you want makes no difference to me.
I just wont bother with you until you start bothering properly reading stuff i say.
I don't wanna enter the infinite loop of repeating myself considering there a more important things to do in game and IRL