[FIN] Traditional Mafia The Gang Plays Mafia [Mafia Championship Practice]

[tedxtr]

Rej why'd you skip my question?

 

[Beky]

I've played with Michelle for more than 8 months, want to tell me I'm wrong?

Yea i think you are wrong. Guess we will see eventually

 

[Stray Cat]

Mentor like figure. Pushed the players forwards. Was more interested in progress than stagnation. He kept.it up for 48 hours almost and thats something you cant really do easily as scum. So he is either really fucking good wolf or just experienced townie. And i would say he is townie


Idk how many times you played with Michelle but she is easy to read

Don't you think he is doing TMI, though? Like when he Town cleared you and defended Nessos and Gambit? Also, I think his get over yourself line was odd. He can't be possibly sure about Nessos being Town, but his line implied that.

 

[Rej]

Rej why'd you skip my question?

just wanted to backtrack and check what I missed

 

[tedxtr]

Yea i think you are wrong. Guess we will see eventually

Can you state explicitly and clearly what about Michelle was villagery in her opening?
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just wanted to backtrack and check what I missed

mhmmmm

 

[Stray Cat]

Michelle is rather inquisitive, reevaluating, backtracking and very deductive. She is my strongest Town read since she plays like she played in the Wano game. Additionally she seems very skeptical which is always a good Town tell.

 

[tedxtr]

Michelle is rather inquisitive, reevaluating, backtracking and very deductive. She is my strongest Town read since she plays like she played in the Wano game. Additionally she seems very skeptical which is always a good Town tell.

Give me some quotes please

 

[Rej]

I hate to order them on phone so my reads are on the playerlist order:

Dragomir - sounds pretty close to town Drago, I need to Iso.
Michelle - town
Rej - liked game implication and reactions.
tedxtr - i need something from him, the wall post is not AI imo. Good effort anyway. He plays more prudent than he played as town in past games and more involved than in past scum games. Null.
Poison Chan - a little too lazy for my liking, i think she needs time, leans slight villa.
Juliet - genuine thinking process, i liked her, leans villa.
joby - idk, slight scum though.
Nessos - something was not wolfy in his answers, i think he may go either way.
Samael - easy scum read after one post. If he is lazy villager this is a problem.
Stray Cat - early town read, enough mistakes in play who were pointed out by Beky, i think town is more likely to make these mistakes.
Gambit - if he is town he is gamethrowing as self voter. I gave reasons why I see him scum and he ignored me.
Trafalgar Law - need to catch up. Null.
Beky - gave a correct meta for me, we played recently here and at MU. The amount of town reads he gave until now would make a difficult game if he is scum, logic say he is more likely town.
Onadaga - everything he posted was towny. Still don't know his scum range which is for sure wide, but the emotion and the self reveal look very good fmpov. About his self vote i already saw him doing it many times as town.
Oreki - lazy, like town Oreki always was.

If my town reads are too many, that means I need to rethink but I didn't have time to reread, I just catched up with Ted's wall after work, and these thoghts are what I collected up until now.
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playing with Chandra was awesome
we have to let memories for endgame

@tedxtr
she doesn't shy back to make GTH reads to everyone even low posters
and they are genuine

 

[Beky]

Don't you think he is doing TMI, though? Like when he Town cleared you and defended Nessos and Gambit? Also, I think his get over yourself line was odd. He can't be possibly sure about Nessos being Town, but his line implied that.

Idk tho. He did some odd things indeed and for someone you can tell he has experience most of those stuff were TWTBW for me. You know i am ballsy scum but i would never draw such a target on my back

Can you state explicitly and clearly what about Michelle was villagery in her opening?
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mhmmmm

If you dont feel comfy playing as wolf your playstyle usually becomes cautious. You watch your words and you make sure you dont leave bad taste in mouth

Michelle opened the game in a way someone of her experience wouldnt do if they wanted to be cautious. Her entrence being like it is may seem scummy to people but i see at someone who let a big sigh of relief they dont have to pretend or be cautious

 

[tedxtr]

@tedxtr
she doesn't shy back to make GTH reads to everyone even low posters
and they are genuine

Please state why any of these reads can't be faked by a scum?

 

[Stray Cat]

Give me some quotes please

I think you won't ever find scum asking so many questions. And she is also skeptical.

Glad to play with everyone :waves:
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noted pockety attitude

okay. let's catch scum together then^^

what makes you doubt him?

So you are here to be compassionate Miss Town-pants?

Cat shows a realistic view, i like this

Nice to meet you btw ^^
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it's about this post below

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:nod:

Actually knowing almosy everyone I can share my thoughts after the opening posts, hope you don't mind.

Be kind and explain why.

Why do you ask Beky what's AI for me? What your gut says?

i think he had a logic, the read wasn't forced, so maybe not TMI, but I'll keep your idea too.

sorry to be half asleep at this hour
I make reads in layers. Let's take Cat i said I liked. That is the first layer.
Any towny behaviour I notice is adding to that to form a town read, or at contrary is developing in a scum read for scum behaviour.
I am always reevaluating.

 

[tedxtr]

Michelle opened the game in a way someone of her experience wouldnt do if they wanted to be cautious

What makes you think she'd want to be cautious? The fact that you think she's weak as wolf?
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So, Stray, you're saying that if I ask questions I'm also town? Why am I not a town lean for you?

*btw not mockery, I'm trying to guide you on the path of Michelle being scum*

I've asked plenty of questions until now. Why am I not your most confident town lean?

 

[Beky]

What makes you think she'd want to be cautious? The fact that you think she's weak as wolf?

She herself said she doesnt feel comfy playing as wolf. If you dont feel comfy playing as wolf yes you will do bad as wolf. You will be afraid to take risks needed to stand out to people. I played enough with people who dont like randing wolf and they all have 1 same characteristic - They dont take unnessecary risks

 

[Beky]

They dont take unnessecary risks

Hell they dont even take nessecary risks sometimes

 

[tedxtr]

She herself said she doesnt feel comfy playing as wolf. If you dont feel comfy playing as wolf yes you will do bad as wolf. You will be afraid to take risks needed to stand out to people. I played enough with people who dont like randing wolf and they all have 1 same characteristic - They dont take unnessecary risks

What risks did she take this game?

 

[Rej]

Please state why any of these reads can't be faked by a scum?

Hard question to answer, ofcourse scum would fake it, but I got the feeling Mich as scum would shy back from bigger reads/bigger pictures, and be more on the short stick with shorter posts and shorter reads.
Tell me rather what scumtells her readlist has, if she is scum there must be info.

 

[Beky]

What risks did she take this game?

Her opening of the game obviously

 

[tedxtr]

Hard question to answer, ofcourse scum would fake it, but I got the feeling Mich as scum would shy back from bigger reads/bigger pictures, and be more on the short stick with shorter posts and shorter reads.
Tell me rather what scumtells her readlist has, if she is scum there must be info.

juliet - genuine thought process ,town

poison - is lazy, town

both of these are ??? , also, if poison has a meta of slanking as a wolf, how come she town read her for it?
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Her opening of the game obviously

Lol, what's risky about her opening?

 

[Beky]

Lol, what's risky about her opening?

I legit said 5 min ago in a different post
Are you asking questions just to ask and not care for an answer or you just have trouble with reading?

 

[Stray Cat]

What makes you think she'd want to be cautious? The fact that you think she's weak as wolf?
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So, Stray, you're saying that if I ask questions I'm also town? Why am I not a town lean for you?

*btw not mockery, I'm trying to guide you on the path of Michelle being scum*

I've asked plenty of questions until now. Why am I not your most confident town lean?

It all started with your cautious entrance into the game. You are new on this site and being cautious isn't a scum tell, but what I found odd is you giving out reads without any reasons. Like when you called Nessos the designated mislynch. Or voting Mich. Additionally your cherry picking when it came to Beky. You are only giving reasons when people ask you for them. Which is no scum tell, ofc, but you can't blame me when my Town lean on you isn't so strong as it is for Michelle tbh.