[FIN] Traditional Mafia The Gang Plays Mafia [Mafia Championship Practice]

[Stray Cat]

Until Drago is lynched I'm not playing.

Are you scum?

 

[Beky]

Unvote

Amazing, lets here it why

Unvote

 

[Stray Cat]

Sorry, but I can't see a scenario in which Onadaga is Town anymore.

He started off strong, then turned absolutely chaotic and now hard tunnels Drago, despite multiple people having said they Town read him. Additionally he would be perfect to infiltrate the Town core ngl.

@Beky @Rej @Michelle I'd like you to give some thoughts about this.

 

[Michelle]

what do u guys think the purpose of life is, if any?

To make your existence meaningful imo.

 

[Beky]

Sorry, but I can't see a scenario in which Onadaga is Town anymore.

He started off strong, then turned absolutely chaotic and now hard tunnels Drago, despite multiple people having said they Town read him. Additionally he would be perfect to infiltrate the Town core ngl.

@Beky @Rej @Michelle I'd like you to give some thoughts about this.

I am making pan cakes so a bit later, in 20 min or so

 

[Michelle]

Cat I have to read more than 150 posts, and I read slow

 

[Waindo]

Hi!
How do you know Gambit used that term when you haven't caught up yet?

Side note: Now Nessos has a reason to bring up Cat League again xD.

I'm in the process of getting caught up maybe? Why so aggressive towards me right of the bat?

 

[Stray Cat]

I'm in the process of getting caught up maybe? Why so aggressive towards me right of the bat?

Sorry, but you subbed in for a player I suspected. Thought I could catch you off guard . But catch up now.

 

[Oreki]

Starting to think the scum team consists of Gambit, Onadaga and Oreki.

A horrible, terrible, awful team. The worst idea in the history of horrible, terrible, awful mafia team. What you say just look good in stories.

That said I still think Juliet is mafia and I ain't removing or moving my vote to anyone

 

[Waindo]

Sorry, but you subbed in for a player I suspected. Thought I could catch you off guard . But catch up now.

I understand, Poison Chwan was almost inactive, but she was the townies town that ever towned, and now I took her place.

Don't you dare meta me lol.

 

[Michelle]

I haven't played any game with her in a long while

And this is the reason you have to think at actions not rely on a meta who is not even accurate anymore.
Come post more and be here at Eod @Poison Chan

 

[Waindo]

A horrible, terrible, awful team. The worst idea in the history of horrible, terrible, awful mafia team. What you say just look good in stories.

That said I still think Juliet is mafia and I ain't removing or moving my vote to anyone

What outlines Jules as scum? And @Beky what are pan cakes? Cake in a pan?

I'm susing Beky for so casually baking cake in a pan in the middle of the game.

 

[Stray Cat]

A horrible, terrible, awful team. The worst idea in the history of horrible, terrible, awful mafia team. What you say just look good in stories.

That said I still think Juliet is mafia and I ain't removing or moving my vote to anyone

Why does a bad idea only look good in stories?

 

[Michelle]

I understand, Poison Chwan was almost inactive, but she was the townies town that ever towned, and now I took her place.

Don't you dare meta me lol.

ayay. she subbed out -_-

 

[Stray Cat]

Also I wonder why you even reacted to that post. Did it trigger you, Devil Hunter?

 

[Samael]

@Onadaga can you explain to me why you have a hard townread on tedxtr?
It doesn't seem to be the first game you 2 play together and you might see something I can't, because I don't know his playstyle

@Samael also would like to hear your opinion about tedxtr.

Ted? He’s still my vote but honestly because well... Walmart be overworking people gahdamn. I just caught up and again he’s simply providing defenses to his point of view. Go back and see if you remember any true pushes from him?

@Michelle given nessos post about about Dragomir and @Stray Cat tell of mafia/town play, what is your opinion of him so far?

ive been playing with Drago for awhile, I noticed the strong start but I wanted to take it as drago trying cause he can be a try hard at times but he fell off and not only that. Drago just has comments on others interactions it’s something to consider.

I’m viewing him in the middle, his start was strong yes but I feel as if he piggy backed off others situations or disagreements for example

Im asking you this because of a post made by you.

Page 14 ! This lineup is quite interesting....

Above reactions were for this one post of Samael !!

Was it worth 2 votes on him..
So tell me...
Do you buy Ted / Stray / Drago reasoning...
Or which one do you think was genuine ? And Who's post was wolfy ? Or they all sound townish

here Drago simply backed stray cats logic, he then went on to back track again I believe once stray said they liked what they saw from me. Out of the 3 stray was the most genuine, Ted? Got nothing nice to say about him, Drago? Isn’t genuine, seemed like he was trying to jump onto something but didn’t want to push himself.

Busy day at work

Anyway. I dont really agree with gambit or michelle lynch so i wont vote for either of them. I srsly believe Michelle is town and gambit is just hard to read for me.

Out of all lynch pool peeps here i just cant make up my mind. I just cant think atm so i wont think

Who would give us the most info?
First nitpicking now you’re backing from lynches, won’t take it to the extreme. Expect you to have a clear cut of what you want or think by the end of the day phase.

Hard question to answer, ofcourse scum would fake it, but I got the feeling Mich as scum would shy back from bigger reads/bigger pictures, and be more on the short stick with shorter posts and shorter reads.
Tell me rather what scumtells her readlist has, if she is scum there must be info.

So because she gave reads in day 1 she took risk? This game a few have reads and I see many are putting to much into them.

You gave reads but provided little to no reasoning your first go round , was it a risk to just color peoples name?

despite multiple people having said they Town read him.

Could those multiple not be wrong or do you already know something we don’t ?
Again day1 reads are being taken to serious.

meh I’ve seen Oreki as scum but he came off as quiet, timid but aggressive in terms of pushes when he wanted to be. Don’t remember much here.

not voting Gambit at all due to me understanding and I like his coolness to the situation. If he is scum he’s a damn good one under pressure, @Gambit could you give me some feelings and thoughts though?

Besides being tied to Gambit I don’t remember much from Michelle, can someone give me things to look at outside of the gambit issue and her reads?
Right now I’m on the fence

Ted is looking better now that I’ve caught up, he’s here and there. The first few post still stick but he definitely looks better.

Drago is looking bad

nessos is looking good, the effort and other post. Think they were under suspicion as well and didn’t do to much. Good play.

 

[Waindo]

ayay. she subbed out -_-

Umm, duhh?

 

[Juliet]

This is my case on Oreki.

@Dragomir Because of these interactions... I think nessos putting unnecessary pressure on Michelle... it was sudden, uncalled and there was nothing wrong with sudden reads... felt like he was trying to find slip to just take his own chance

I'll cast my vote already.

Vote Lynch Nessos

This is the reasoning Oreki gave for Nessos being scum putting unnecessary pressure saying it was sudden and uncalled saying there was nothing wrong with sudden reads and then he votes Nessos. So Oreki scum reads Nessos for pressuring Michelle? What Nessos did was NAI and Oreki jumped on the Nessos train too soon.

Sorry, but I don't really in the mood of writing one. But can we skip that now and go right to the conlusion?

What do you think of Nessos' first post where he points out Beky and Michelle open buddying?
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What do you all think about Juliet?
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Right now I think the scum is between

Joby
Poison
Gambit
Nessos
Juliet

My reads will change based how will game move

This is a scum reads list poe. The players Oreki listed who he thinks where scum are between are the ones who were getting scum read today and the other half of the players he listed haven't posted much. From my experience, most of the time scum will go after the players during the day who gets scum read the most or the players who haven't posted much.

I'll just get to the point myself. Juliet an experienced player doesn't have a single solid stance from the very start of the game, her reads are based on pre-game information such as meta, assumption that scum won't say that specific thing what I consider a false delusional certainty. Nothing of worth has proven to back her reads besides what I said above. Probably trying to get town credit, perhaps? At first look, it seems she has a very wise and a certain eye for towns unless she knew their identities before the game even started.
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Vote Lynch Juliet

He calls me out when I was doing meta reads and assumption that scum won't say a specific post. What I did was analyzed Nessos post thinking that one of his post looked like something town would say and it didn't' look like something scum would say. Analyzing a players post is a good way to figure out the players alignment and it always helps me with my read.

Something is wrong with this post. Are you a genius who able to tell someone is a town based on Nessos' suicidal(literally) post? You say this but do you really believe this? Out of 14 players(excluding Nessos) 5 suspected him to be scum and interrogated him... so are you telling me that the other 9 players are probably clean since you assumed most of the players have been after him. In my experience, both town and scum give the impression of not wanting to get lynch or they say what Nessos said, you can't really discern someone's alignment based on this.

You're not looking to good so far, in my book.

This post looked like he wanted to shut down my ability to analyze a players post figuring out their alignment and then he says I am not looking good because of this.

What will you do with multiple suspects? If you can't lynch two scums in one DP, there's no need to focus on more than one. If I have another read I will keep it to myself, because if my one read ends up being right and others being wrong then it could be used to frame that person.

Things like giving reads, again and again, are just something scum to do appear they're putting effort to solve the game. Putting efforts doesn't make you winner put them in the right place does.

Giving reads early can be helpful for players. Most don't often give reads on day 1 since it is too soon but when players do give early reads they would later have to reassess. You also called out Nessos for putting pressure on Michelle and for giving early reads.

I know town Oreki and scum Oreki. Oreki should know that I am the kind of player who analyzes players posts.
Town Oreki is fluid and has got this natural flow to his content which comes across as incredibly good.
Oreki this game has been forcing. There's an aggression to him that is utterly absent from his town games. This looks like the scum Oreki who has been pushing hard rather than going with the flow.

Oreki as town is like a leaf on a river, drifting along with the flow.
Oreki this game is a rock in that river, cutting through it, unmoving, forcing the river to go around it.

Vote Lynch Oreki

 

[Oreki]

He started off strong, then turned absolutely chaotic and now hard tunnels Drago, despite multiple people having said they Town read him. Additionally he would be perfect to infiltrate the Town core ngl.

If you think that you can deduce everything about player with the little information you have about them would be committing the sin of pride. What will you do if Drago did end up being scum? Onadage just explained to us many times expecting all players to think the same way you do or play the game in same manner will only bring frustration nothing else.

 

[Stray Cat]

At this point...

One out of Dragomir and Onadaga seems to be scum.

One out of Juliet and Oreki.

And one out of Gambit and Michelle.


Can't quite shake off the feeling that all three of those are TvW exchanges.