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In my opinion this thread should be deleated.

On the one hand not enough details to understand what really happened and in the other hand already too many about the private life of @Zemmi and @Beky! Whatever Beky will say here is wrong and Zemmi is not even here!

I mean at least 90% of the members didn't even know they had a relationship. Never forget its a Mafia/RP/Manga Forum and not a soap opera.


An announcement like:
"Due to a private conflict with another Team member, Zemmi has decided to leave the forum. The doors for her will stay open, if she decides to return."
The thing is, multiple members got personally involved into it and already know more of the private issues than the rest, so I guess the mod team thought it would be best to explain the thing more in detail to not make the members ask even more question about it but explain the reason why those things happened.
 
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We can have salty discussions but threatening someone is a rule breaker. There are some regulations to maintain the positivity and if they are broken so easily, the system will surely fall. While playing chess in a tournament, one can talk to their opponent in a restricted way only. You can offer draw as much as you want to annoy your opponent. But if your opponent retaliates by throwing the pieces at you, he is disqualified.

If I take Zemmi's side here and start threatening Beky, I am 100% sure it's a rule breaker + Ban. It won't matter how much their personal matter offended me, my retaliation would be completely wrong.

In my opinion this thread should be deleated.

On the one hand not enough details to understand what really happened and in the other hand already too many about the private life of @Zemmi and @Beky! Whatever Beky will say here is wrong and Zemmi is not even here!
We need not to know the full story. Hell, many of us is having a biased opinion on this now. All that we need to know is, what rule was broken by them and how. I only know what rule Beky defied as of now.
 
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We can have salty discussions but threatening someone is a rule breaker. There are some regulations to maintain the positivity and if they are broken so easily, the system will surely fall. While playing chess in a tournament, one can talk to their opponent in a restricted way only. You can offer draw as much as you want to annoy your opponent. But if your opponent retaliates by throwing the pieces at you, he is disqualified.

If I take Zemmi's side here and start threatening Beky, I am 100% sure it's a rule breaker + Ban. It won't matter how much their personal matter offended me, my retaliation would be completely wrong.


We don't need not to know the full story. Hell, many of us is having a biased opinion on this now. All that we need to know is, what rule was broken by them and how. I only know what rule Beky defied as of now.
knowing things or what rules were broken or taking sides or pointing fingers won't change anything at this point

its a loss no matter what
 
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The thing is, multiple members got personally involved into it and already know more of the private issues than the rest, so I guess the mod team thought it would be best to explain the thing more in detail to not make the members ask even more question about it but explain the reason why those things happened.
They could create a private convo with everyone who was in olved to clear things up.
This thread is like a Yellow Press and Bekys and Zemmis relationship gets handled like the relationship of prominente. This is BS and disrespectful.

I mean its public and everyone can read this and everyone knows their relationship ended in a mudpuddle. If I were one of Zemmi or Beky I wouldn't want that something like this goes public. I know we are here because we share the childisch love to Mangas, but this is not highschool and we are No kids anymore(putting @Dragomir aside :p).

This is a private matter and should be handled like it.


We need not to know the full story.
You mean like what happened? Why did the relationship end? Who bullied who? Did someone fall in love with someone else and the other one got jealous?
No we don't need this. Again this no soap opera its problem between 2 real adults who had a relationship and it should be handled like it.
 
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No we don't need this
Yea we don't but as I said before we only need to know how the rules were broken from both sides to judge the situation correctly.
knowing things or what rules were broken or taking sides or pointing fingers won't change anything at this point

its a loss no matter what
So TB is a place where no one can question anything? if a dear member leaves after some fight we just keep moving on?
 
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In my opinion this thread should be deleated.

On the one hand not enough details to understand what really happened and in the other hand already too many about the private life of @Zemmi and @Beky! Whatever Beky will say here is wrong and Zemmi is not even here!

I mean at least 90% of the members didn't even know they had a relationship. Never forget its a Mafia/RP/Manga Forum and not a soap opera.


An announcement like:
"Due to a private conflict with another Team member, Zemmi has decided to leave the forum. The doors for her will stay open, if she decides to return."
This is correct way to do it. Adding private life of a person was not necessary.
 

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In my opinion this thread should be deleated.

On the one hand not enough details to understand what really happened and in the other hand already too many about the private life of @Zemmi and @Beky! Whatever Beky will say here is wrong and Zemmi is not even here!

I mean at least 90% of the members didn't even know they had a relationship. Never forget its a Mafia/RP/Manga Forum and not a soap opera.


An announcement like:
"Due to a private conflict with another Team member, Zemmi has decided to leave the forum. The doors for her will stay open, if she decides to return."
This matter was originally handled in private but still more information got out to multiple people on TB and it no longer became a private matter and the team started getting more and more questions about this whole incident.
We gave this amount of information because the situation demanded complete transparency due to us temporarily demoting Moderators.
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We did not put this out there for people to pick sides and support one over the other.

Know that the team did work on this outcome together, hearing ALL sides, and discussing everything for HOURS. We did not take this situation lightly, but most of this did fall outside the scope of Thriller Bark.
 
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This matter was originally handled in private but still more information got out to multiple people on TB and it no longer became a private matter and the team started getting more and more questions about this whole incident.
We gave this amount of information because the situation demanded complete transparency due to us temporarily demoting Moderators.
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We did not put this out there for people to pick sides and support one over the other.

Know that the team did work on this outcome together, hearing ALL sides, and discussing everything for HOURS. We did not take this situation lightly, but most of this did fall outside the scope of Thriller Bark.
Making a public announcement about the mud puddle caused by the end of a relationship while one of them isn't even Here to say anything about it. Just feels wrong for me.

Did any of you ask Beky and Zemmi, if it is ok to make this announcement?!?
Otherwise you really really should reduce the announcement to
"Due to a private conflict with another Team member, Zemmi has decided to leave the forum. The doors for her will stay open, if she decides to return."
Or give you should go more into detail like "Which rules got broken?", "Why does Zemmi feel threatened?". How it come to this doesn't really Matter that would be again turning private life into a soap opera.
 
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you think they didn't??
Well Zemmi isn't here anymore. Again its just feels wrong for me reading a public announcement about mir puddle caused by the end of a relationship between adults in a Mafia/RP/Manga-forum while one of the involved already left.

Maybe I am just old-fashioned because I never really reached web 2.0 yet.
 
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Well Zemmi isn't here anymore. Again its just feels wrong for me reading a public announcement about mir puddle caused by the end of a relationship between adults in a Mafia/RP/Manga-forum while one of the involved already left.

Maybe I am just old-fashioned because I never really reached web 2.0 yet.
Zemmi knew about all of this. She deleted her account herself and everything was discussed with her being present on discord. She was involved in all the discussion and was informed about the announcement. She didn't accept being penalized together with Beky and left discord as well. Nothing was done without her knowledge.
 
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Sad to hear...
Hope that she will get her time and come back again...
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In my opinion this thread should be deleated.

On the one hand not enough details to understand what really happened and in the other hand already too many about the private life of @Zemmi and @Beky! Whatever Beky will say here is wrong and Zemmi is not even here!

I mean at least 90% of the members didn't even know they had a relationship. Never forget its a Mafia/RP/Manga Forum and not a soap opera.


An announcement like:
"Due to a private conflict with another Team member, Zemmi has decided to leave the forum. The doors for her will stay open, if she decides to return."
I second this !
Had no idea about their relationship...! Don't know if they wanted everyone to know about their past relationship etc..
 
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Welp, this is sad tp hear but here I am posting as an adult and I am not gonna take any sides even if I have been handed the facts. People should stop commenting on how poorly or immaturely one had handled the situation or how the other had done such thing. We didn't know the truth and even of we do, this matter should only be accepted as it is. All these things will only be worsen if we try to add some cream on the top of the brownie.

Part of me whispers that she'd come back and reconcile...
 
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Y'all are the ones making this a soap opera. First this was intended for the one aware of the matter. Second we were given enough information to have a grasp on the matter and somehow understand why she left.
Had no idea about their relationship...! Don't know if they wanted everyone to know about their past relationship etc
Same here, but they didn't expose it because they wanted. It's the root of the problem and from it resulted all this so not mentioning that was impossible.
Are we talking about knowledge or agreement?
She's the one who wanted it to be solved here if we believe Rak. But sadly since her demand was not met, she deleted her account which resulted in the team facing many questions and finger pointed at by those aware. This was to inform us not for us to judge anyone. Just informing the people who knew was not an option since those of us who noticed her leaving would be asking questions too. So they made a global announcement with enough information to not appear as if they were hiding more or siding with any of them. Also TB was somehow tangled in all this with a mysterious third party.
If I saw Beky demoted and Zemmi leaving I would have questions. Then imagine getting an answer like "for personal reasons Beky was demoted and Zemmi left."
 
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She's the one who wanted it to be solved here if we believe Rak
She told me that she wanted the team to be even more transperent. For me this would have been already to much info, but current post is super confusing. Reading the opening post the only interpretion I can think of is
  • Beky did shit
  • Zemmi overacted
  • Team didn't know what to do ^^
Again this is actually only my interpretation of this announcememt without any information from outside.
 
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