Chapter Discussion One Piece 1004: Kibi Dango

[DarkWitch]

Imagine getting a bunch of people to join your crew, and you give them artificial zoan devil fruits in order to make your pirate crew grow stronger only for an eight year old girl to take it all away.

Tama is about to dethrone Kaido and become Queen of the Beasts Pirates.

 

[Shottie]

Tama is about to dethrone Kaido and become Queen of the Beasts Pirates.

I was literally just writing: Tama the true Beast Pirates Captain.

 

[Gambit]

O-Tama and the Beasts.
Such a great Disney treat this Valentine.

 

[Rej]

She is dead.

where did the manga confirm this?



also finally we are getting a chapter off from the roof, it gives me hope that anything else besides the roof events will become relevant and fairly treated.

also seems Bao Huang is holder of the ttalisman abilities and now it makes me think that she is the undercover working CP-0 agents in Kaido's crew

I am dubious about how Bao Huang did not mention anything about the CP-0 while that one courtisan there has a talisman on her face

also Enel hype is real! Oda knows what he does, doesn't mean that character must be Enel, but it can mean that Enel will be relevant after this arc or inbetween this and the next one. we just have to believe in Goda

 

[Nessos]

where did the manga confirm this?

The "thump" sound after Toki was telling the prophecy indicated that she collapsed.

Also it makes literally no sense that she left behind Hiyori like this. Sendung her son to the future followed by traveling to the future by hersfel while leaving the daughter behind. Best Mother in OPverse

 

[Rej]

The "thump" sound after Toki was telling the prophecy indicated that she collapsed.

Also it makes literally no sense that she left behind Hiyori like this. Sendung her son to the future followed by traveling to the future by hersfel while leaving the daughter behind. Best Mother in OPverse

 

[Fallen Prince]

My only problem is she ws in no state to escape , 100s of civilian were bare witness to her death .Even Kaido's minion saw her dead so its not Toki.

It would be bad writing if she is miracolously coming back with good health.
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O-Tama and the Beasts.
Such a great Disney treat this Valentine.

Hated this part of the plot but i forsaw this happening miles ahead . I hope there is twist to it like otama 's df will have time limit or she is another sugar.

 

[Larsi]

Ears and nose matches Enel, but far too short. Probably is Kanjuro or Hyori.

 

[Rej]

could be Enel, he learnd something about Wano and the prophecy on the moon, something that redeemed him...yes it's Enel and some amazing flashback is awaiting us about how Enel got converted to support the idea of the New Dawn.

 

[Udell]

Just got done binging a year worth of One Piece so I had a lot to digest at one time. I don't know what it is but I just aint as hype as I use to be. Most the events were predictable and where are the 1 v 1's that can surpass enies lobby? Good news is that the story is still top notch. Have no idea who the lady might be. Maybe someone who came with marco otherwise why hide her identity? Also Usopp shooting dumplings in the gifters mouth made me laugh so hard. Not because it was epic but because he always shooting shit in someone's mouth. Usopp is a troll, hard to take this sniper serious. That was the chapter highlight for me lmao. I'm laughing just thinking about it, good lard
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Right now another question pops, if SMILE User count as animals for Tama, they should also count as animals for BM and thus BM should be able to turn SMILE user into Homies

Has BM ever turned an animal/human into a homie? It seemed as though she targets inanimate objects and plants. Then again I don't remember her fruit limitations.

 

[Nessos]

Has BM ever turned an animal/human into a homie? It seemed as though she targets inanimate objects and plants. Then again I don't remember her fruit limitations

BM can't turn humans into homies thats rule.
But she is able to turn animals into homies. That wasn't only said, but also shown.

Spoiler: Crocodile homie

 

[Udell]

BM can't turn humans into homies thats rule.
But she is able to turn animals into homies. That wasn't only said, but also shown.

Spoiler: Crocodile homie

Right I forgot soo many things from that arc since i hated it. I guess Oda is trying to say animals have no soul then. However no way she can turn gifters into homies. She needs to put a human soul into something not human and while gifters are partly animal they are still human. So she can take their soul but she can't actually make homie out of one. It's already a stretch imo for her to turn animals into homies.

 

[Shottie]

Right I forgot soo many things from that arc since i hated it. I guess Oda is trying to say animals have no soul then. However no way she can turn gifters into homies. She needs to put a human soul into something not human and while gifters are partly animal they are still human. So she can take their soul but she can't actually make homie out of one. It's already a stretch imo for her to turn animals into homies.

I think with animal Homies they are just given human attributes from the human soul they are hosting. Animals didn't seem to die when they lost their Big Mom gifted souls like the inanimate objects did.

 

[Udell]

I think with animal Homies they are just given human attributes from the human soul they are hosting. Animals didn't seem to die when they lost their Big Mom gifted souls like the inanimate objects did.

Oh then it's not that bad. Its the equivalent of Chopper eating the human fruit. Big Mom really has a hax ability lol.

 

[Zorojuro]

Enel helping samurai makes no sense at all, probably its hiyori

 

[Nessos]

Oh then it's not that bad. Its the equivalent of Chopper eating the human fruit. Big Mom really has a hax ability lol.

And now there exist a few questions:

• Does intellect through Human Human fruit make it Impossible for BM to turn Chopper into homie?
• Same as before: Is Tama able to control Chopper with her DF?
• Then we have Tama being able to control Smile User while she should actually only be able to contral animals. Does this imply that BM is able to turn SMILE user into Homies?
• Which one is superior BM or Tama? Is Tama able to control animal Homies or does BMs power negates Tamas control?

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Enel helping samurai makes no sense at all, probably its hiyori

A valid explanation already posted by Rej

could be Enel, he learnd something about Wano and the prophecy on the moon, something that redeemed him...yes it's Enel and some amazing flashback is awaiting us about how Enel got converted to support the idea of the New Dawn.

It is Enel for sure!

Spoiler: extanded panel

 

[Rej]

And now there exist a few questions:

• Does intellect through Human Human fruit make it Impossible for BM to turn Chopper into homie?
• Same as before: Is Tama able to control Chopper with her DF?
• Then we have Tama being able to control Smile User while she should actually only be able to contral animals. Does this imply that BM is able to turn SMILE user into Homies?
• Which one is superior BM or Tama? Is Tama able to control animal Homies or does BMs power negates Tamas control?

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A valid explanation already posted by Rej

It is Enel for sure!

Spoiler: extanded panel

Love that edit lmao. So good.

 

[Udell]

And now there exist a few questions:

• Does intellect through Human Human fruit make it Impossible for BM to turn Chopper into homie?
• Same as before: Is Tama able to control Chopper with her DF?
• Then we have Tama being able to control Smile User while she should actually only be able to contral animals. Does this imply that BM is able to turn SMILE user into Homies?
• Which one is superior BM or Tama? Is Tama able to control animal Homies or does BMs power negates Tamas control?

First off that would depend on if it is confirmed that BM ability works on animal with fruit abilities. Maybe Chopper fruit cancels it out who knows. The fruit themselves have a soul don't they? thats why normal people can't eat more than one.

Tama can control Chopper for sure. Chopper is an animal that's all tama needs for her fruit to work.

The problem with BM is as Shottie stated is that BM gave them human intelligence it doesn't really make sense for BM to able to do that.

I doubt BM can negate her control it is worth discussing though.

 

[Gambit]

Somebody open a spoiler thread. It's up. It's not that I can't. I won't. Lmao.

 

[Fallen Prince]

RIP to sanji . Oda nuked his character.
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Somebody open a spoiler thread. It's up. It's not that I can't. I won't. Lmao.

Its ok our boi is finished by oda.RIP.