Spoilers One Piece - 1007 Spoilers

[Gambit]

Great MORE drama in Wano... Momo expecting to be the next Shogun gets ousted by his sister due to a 20 year time jump his mom forced on him.

It kinda sucks actually if Oden is truly alive. Better this be an illusion or hallucination of the dying scabbards.

 

[Shottie]

It kinda sucks actually if Oden is truly alive. Better this be an illusion or hallucination of the dying scabbards.

Or maybe new tech from Vegapunk that CP0 is using

 

[Nessos]

Started thinking on it... wow. Hiyori got the shaft if both Oden and Toki are alive... she was all alone for 20 years. Momo only lost a few weeks.

Thats why I go with, if thats really Oden Komurasaki fakeclaimed Hiyori and is actually Toki while Tama is actually Hiyori.

 

[Naomi]

It kinda sucks actually if Oden is truly alive. Better this be an illusion or hallucination of the dying scabbards.

his death was unfair and shitty.

oden dying to orochi bs, is stupid. even kaido showed respect to oden. It could been him or someone realized he was not dead fully/half death and healed him and toki took his body to be healed in secret before sending him in the future.

even orochi got killed by kaido, seriously that little scum bag ending oden and then getting 1 shot. is just pathetic.

I bet the pos orochi is still alive and will be with cp0, while kaido fear/guilt comes to reality and oden alive.
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Thats why I go with, if thats really Oden Komurasaki fakeclaimed Hiyori and is actually Toki while Tama is actually Hiyori.

also with tama sneaking on the island.

where the hell is her guardian tengu?? he over protective.

interesting if tama is hiyori and toki fake claiming to be her, but momo did not recognize her?

 

[Gambit]

his death was unfair and shitty.

oden dying to orochi bs, is stupid. even kaido showed respect to oden. It could been him or someone realized he was not dead fully/half death and healed him and toki took his body to be healed in secret before sending him in the future.

even orochi got killed by kaido, seriously that little scum bag ending oden and then getting 1 shot. is just pathetic.

I bet the pos orochi is still alive and will be with cp0, while kaido fear/guilt comes to reality and oden alive.
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also with tama sneaking on the island.

where the hell is her guardian tengu?? he over protective.

interesting if tama is hiyori and toki fake claiming to be her, but momo did not recognize her?

So you're cool with Oden being alive.

Now mg question, which time did Toki forecast his arrival in the future. During war? I bet they have just arrived in the present if your theory is right.

 

[Naomi]

since time fruit did not show up.

possible it can de-age the person if awakened, similar to bonney df.

meaning if that is true, did we see kid toki?

So you're cool with Oden being alive.

Now mg question, which time did Toki forecast his arrival in the future. During war? I bet they have just arrived in the present if your theory is right.

i'm fine with that, oden dying is waste, the only good character in wano arc so far. to die to fodder, only for the stupid fodder to get one shotted. meaning his death was pointless since kaido kills orochi to. there so much room for oden character to grow if he alive.

plus kaido shows guilt/regret for his actions on oden. and keeps thinking he sees oden, showing he very stressed and feels deep regret. imo i would not be surprised if the fan girl, or someone else recovered his body after execution only to realize he was still alive/half death and set to getting him healed recovered.

to show oden now, and say is disguise feel cheap clickbait, let him rest if he is dead. do not get fans hyped/hope only to pull shitty sike later.
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i'll say this, if her time fruit can go backwards, reverse her age or foreword (awakened)(


this would be the bigges plot twist ever, and means cp0 might target her if it is her..... she from the ancient era..so maybe information

 

[Shottie]

Thats why I go with, if thats really Oden Komurasaki fakeclaimed Hiyori and is actually Toki while Tama is actually Hiyori.

Eh... Tama line is hard cus she would have been on wano 4 (?) Years ago to meet Ace

 

[Naomi]

Eh... Tama line is hard cus she would have been on wano 4 (?) Years ago to meet Ace

wasn't hiyori 4 years old in the time of the fire, when see tama she looks around 4-6 year old with ace, Then later when luffy meets her she 8 years old.

also

relooking back at this, someone saved oden journal, and the fangirl found it after. even she noticed the strange detail. of someone attempting to save it. so oda left clue of maybe someone knowing oden, and saving his stuff?

(also if i missed it, if revealed later let me know, hardly paying attention wano arc)

 

[Fallen Prince]

Gyukimaru makes more sense thats it. I mea at this point it turned into oden for moral booster.

 

[God_Usopun]

The Red Scabbards meet a surprising character (the Spoiler does not say who he/she is).

Apparently it's Oden
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Vegapunk studied Kaido
SSG is about to be OP
This man is the embodiment of HYPE

 

[Naomi]

In chapter 1004

This must be Oden hint, plus we saw sillioute of hiyori, or was it toki!?

Before oda later revealed it's oden in chapter 1007


also

in spoiler translation Oden mentions to his friends

"I've missed you so much! you've ages so much"

"I'm very old! I wanted to meet you guys"

So he old man now, and actually stayed behind and waited for them..

thus...

that would make him the lurking legend oda said we would meet around wano arc...

He died a legend, by saving his friends and got betrayed only to survive death, and go into hiding..making him the lurking legend.


will have to wait for next week, to see if this is the case, and not trolling. but from story built up that fits from clues!

 

[God_Usopun]

In chapter 1004

This must be Oden hint, plus we saw sillioute of hiyori, or was it toki!?

Before oda later revealed it's oden in chapter 1007


also

in spoiler translation Oden mentions to his friends

"I've missed you so much! you've ages so much"

"I'm very old! I wanted to meet you guys"

So he old man now, and actually stayed behind and waited for them..

thus...

that would make him the lurking legend oda said we would meet around wano arc...

He died a legend, by saving his friends and got betrayed only to survive death, and go into hiding..making him the lurking legend.


will have to wait for next week, to see if this is the case, and not trolling. but from story built up that fits from clues!

Nah that's nonsense. It's someone disguised as him.
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Lurking Legend gotta be Rox. This is either the fox or Katerina Devon

 

[Naomi]

Nah that's nonsense. It's someone disguised as him.

Oda cheaping oden death and stringing fans along by showing a imposter. that more nonsense imo.

oda showed/hinted someone off screen saving kinemon, and rest. meaning the person saving them knows them. Oden friends. why would enemy even help them and disguise themselves?

also the clone fruit wont work, since no one touched oden face years ago. if go down that route. makes no sense.

 

[God_Usopun]

Oda cheaping oden death and stringing fans along by showing a imposter. that more nonsense imo.

oda showed/hinted someone off screen saving kinemon, and rest. meaning the person saving them knows them. Oden friends. why would enemy even help them and disguise themselves?

also the clone fruit wont work, since no one touched oden face years ago. if go down that route. makes no sense.

Katerina is a nine tails and the fox is a magical being. How can Oden be alive after what he went through. Also how come he didn't age. That's why they're being deceived by the enemy to catch them off gard or extract information. Other than that I think it's the fox because that's definitely not Oden

 

[Naomi]

Katerina is a nine tails and the fox is a magical being. How can Oden be alive after what he went through. Also how come he didn't age. That's why they're being deceived by the enemy to catch them off gard or extract information. Other than that I think it's the fox because that's definitely not Oden

I thought of that to, but if oden says he old now..means he hiding all this time. plus there are signs someone was already on island fighting offscreen. and they only showed up when kinemon and rest started to attack kaido island.

oda been hinting it from before.

the cave

momo see someone beat up the guards, and wrote message gya gya, wa, wa

!?????? there someone unknown who is laughing, and fighting...

then later.. the spy see someone else helping the survivors. more clues from oda! before he revealed it..

but

imo, if oden is old, where is tengu in this setup? since he was built up as a character to look after tama! we see tama on island helping, so make sense tenguyama shows up...but instead it's oden!?

both are old...though.. i don't like disguise hype clickbait. If go back to tenguyama introduction, he stated he can't be seen by kaido man, hinting the old man (same age as oden would be..) is hiding behind a mask and new costume/identity etc. plus the older oden has new swords... and tenguyama can craft swords.

i personally not fan of someone taking oden image, let him rest in peace. if he dead. So imo it has to be oden.
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I want to know now

did tenguyama help oden off screen, or did oden disguise himself, watching over his people and helping low key?

damn he must been lonely, waiting for his friends. if it's true!

 

[God_Usopun]

I thought of that to, but if oden says he old now..means he hiding all this time. plus there are signs someone was already on island fighting offscreen. and they only showed up when kinemon and rest started to attack kaido island.

oda been hinting it from before.

the cave

momo see someone beat up the guards, and wrote message gya gya, wa, wa

!?????? there someone unknown who is laughing, and fighting...

then later.. the spy see someone else helping the survivors. more clues from oda! before he revealed it..

but

imo, if oden is old, where is tengu in this setup? since he was built up as a character to look after tama! we see tama on island helping, so make sense tenguyama shows up...but instead it's oden!?

both are old...though.. i don't like disguise hype clickbait. If go back to tenguyama introduction, he stated he can't be seen by kaido man, hinting the old man (same age as oden would be..) is hiding behind a mask and new costume/identity etc. plus the older oden has new swords... and tenguyama can craft swords.

i personally not fan of someone taking oden image, let him rest in peace. if he dead. So imo it has to be oden.
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I want to know now

did tenguyama help oden off screen, or did oden disguise himself, watching over his people and helping low key?

damn he must been lonely, waiting for his friends. if it's true!

You have too much hope. Bobbin sama PTSD should be hitting rn.
Jk aside from the panel we don't really see how much he aged. He just looks like his past self. Someone his using the image that the Samurai know of him. Also it said someone helping but that's from the point of view of the Beast pirate. We got CP0 here masters in disguise and infiltration. Again I'm not denying that it might be him , but just saying it's unlikely since he died in a FB and Oda rarely trolls when it's in a FB

 

[Naomi]

You have too much hope. Bobbin sama PTSD should be hitting rn.
Jk aside from the panel we don't really see how much he aged. He just looks like his past self. Someone his using the image that the Samurai know of him. Also it said someone helping but that's from the point of view of the Beast pirate. We got CP0 here masters in disguise and infiltration. Again I'm not denying that it might be him , but just saying it's unlikely since he died in a FB and Oda rarely trolls when it's in a FB

Bobbin sama......



lol, yeah he still looks young lmao. though could be he just aged well. i'v seen older character who still look young, there shakky for example so could not be female exclusive.

imo it makes sense to be oden imo, over the fox, or cp0. oden had connection to his friends and new they where sent to the future. As for cp0 no idea if they can mimic someone, since that is good point. they also want oden information about raftel like kaido etc. but last saw them, they where sitting back and watching the fight. hoping sh and other take down kaido and big mom. so that means there not there atm.

also oda left cliffhanger with the reveal, so two weak wait. he basically gave oden fans hope...and made them wait.. that is cruel trick.

fox for example said his duty done, he seemed to want to guard the graves till the time came and seen leaving, he not shown connection with oden friends. nor we see hiyori know he a fox??

cp0 chapter 1003, shows them all in the room away from the fight discussing the outcome, then next chapter 1004 we got the hint of oden saving his friends, that would mean cp0 are not observing the outcome anymore, even though previous showed them laid back and waiting.
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you know what..

I think this is more accurate...as much as love oden coming back...gonna lower my expectations. also FB character like sabo did come back alive, so possible oden. but oda has to explain it good and how...................

 

[Fallen Prince]

Thats gyukimaru oden is dead.

 

[Srundenx]

Character wise, i am happy with someone as great as Oden alive...

But story wise...it's sucks....what the hell...Toki cast spell when Oden in those hot-boiled pot ??? Any argument just didnt make any sense....

 

[Nessos]

Character wise, i am happy with someone as great as Oden alive...

But story wise...it's sucks....what the hell...Toki cast spell when Oden in those hot-boiled pot ??? Any argument just didnt make any sense....

I can only bring back points that I mentioned when I pointed ou the possibility of Yamato actually being Oden.

"Daikoku was suprised that Oden skin could survive this by questioning what kind of skin Oden have. Oden survived hanging 3 days in the rope just tyni scratches after hitting rifts at fullspeed or from getting eaten by huge fishes"
This shows Oden was portrayed as invincible monster similiar to the likes of Kaidou and BM. And thus Oden was definetly able to survive the cooking.

We know Toki was able to create portals for other. And thus it also possible she might have send Oden to the future while he was pot.

Eh... Tama line is hard cus she would have been on wano 4 (?) Years ago to meet Ace

you are right... happy family speculation debunked.... for now