Chapter Discussion One Piece Chapter 954: Like Giving Wings To A Dragon

[AL.]

With Inuarashi. Unless she's the traitor doing shady things

she wasn't there just like hiyori

highly doubt she is the traitor tho

 

[Lemonade]

There's a theory that Numbers = card numbers from 2-10. I'm wondering if X Drake is a Number if that's true?

 

[Jake Wu Long]

I wonder where is carrot

From being next nakama to be totally forgotten. what a pitty. I like carrot to join and that traitor theory don't convince me at all.

 

[Lemonade]

I like that double agent theory on X-Drake.
Certainly we have to know more about Drake's true motivations for being a pirate or a marine. With a flashback is enough for me.

Yeah I'm curious too. He went from pirate to Marine once Doflamingo invaded and killed his dad, then he left the Marines as rear admiral and became a Supernova, then quickly worked his way to be a Flying Six under Kaido. And he's fixated on Sanji and his Vinsmoke background.

 

[Jake Wu Long]

There's a theory that Numbers = card numbers from 2-10. I'm wondering if X Drake is a Number if that's true?

There's a theory yes and we have almost all cards on the table. Then is very probable that Oda continues the same theme with the Numbers.

 

[AL.]

From being next nakama to be totally forgotten. what a pitty. I like carrot to join and that traitor theory don't convince me at all.

yup her not appearing is weird to me

 

[Lemonade]

she wasn't there just like hiyori

highly doubt she is the traitor tho

I think the meeting involved just the red scabbards and Strawhat Pirates. So Carrot and Minks are nearby. But we have Shinobu in the meeting too...

 

[Jake Wu Long]

Yeah I'm curious too. He went from pirate to Marine once Doflamingo invaded and killed his dad, then he left the Marines as rear admiral and became a Supernova, then quickly worked his way to be a Flying Six under Kaido. And he's fixated on Sanji and his Vinsmoke background.

I think he fixated on Sanji's because he is from North Blue too and know who Germa is, but his actions were very quick and perfect. And X-Drake seems to me like a cold person to be moving for his father's death by Doflamingo. Something left...

 

[Lemonade]

I'm wondering if Momonosuke will be the one to take down Orochi and kill him. Would be really fitting

 

[AL.]

I think the meeting involved just the red scabbards and Strawhat Pirates. So Carrot and Minks are nearby. But we have Shinobu in the meeting too...

I believe the meeting was for the whole alliance

but regardless of that she should have been there

 

[Lemonade]

Wait where's Law's crew?

 

[Jake Wu Long]

I'm wondering if Momonosuke will be the one to take down Orochi and kill him. Would be really fitting

If Oda follow Sudanoo's legend considering Ame no Habakiri and the dragon serpent Orochi, yes it might be. I see it: The final slash given by Mononosuke's rage and will. Very fitting for sure.

 

[Gambit]

With Inuarashi. Unless she's the traitor doing shady things

Please don't say that again. Lol just kidding... She was doing dishes with Tama and others...

There's a theory that Numbers = card numbers from 2-10. I'm wondering if X Drake is a Number if that's true?

That fits well and I support that... Make sense since we already have the King, Queen, Jack... Having 10 Members of Numbers with that size makes me think that they aren't giving the other alliance an easy raid to Onigashima. I think that these 10 monsters are awakened zoan just like what we saw in ID. But where do you exactly rank these Numbers? Above the headliners I guess..

 

[Salah Eddine]

Hey guys, what if Law really betrays Luffy
Because let's think about it, why would X-Drake betray Yonko for sake of some Supernova & few Samurai, it's obvious everyone bets on Kaido winning so his Betrayal isn't for sake of Alliance, but for something else, personal benefit most probably
Especially now that they gonna hear BM is allied with Kaido, it's not like X-Drake will say :"Bro, i'm sorry, forget that i saved you, i'm going to return to Kaido's side now" xD

So what kind of Personal Benefit are we talking about here ?
Obviously if these Supernova really want to become Pirate King, there is one thing that can interest them and is more valuable than defeating Kaido honestly, and that is Road Poneglyphs !!

Let's not forget that Law told his Crew not to tell SHs of his Capture which means he was already confident he is gonna escape and we just saw how he did it, which means he already knew of X-Drake's Conspiracy before his Capture and seeing how Law never had time alone since Wano Arc started, this indicates that Law & X-Drake met before Luffy arrived and made a Plan together
As for Last Chapter, Law's Words to X-Drake were like: "Hey, now i fully trust u since u saved me and betrayed Hawkins"

However saying Law is gonna betray Luffy isn't a light statement, the guy saved him many times, is allied with him and defeated Doffy for him, but Law doesn't plan to turn against Luffy or harm him however it's possible he will instead abandon them in the war and steal Road Poneglyphs from both Kaido & Luffy and his DF is very suitable for such task

The question now is, where would such Sub-Plot lead ? the answer is simple, Luffy needs Road Poneglyphs to reach One Piece so defeating Yonko isn't necessary except if they get in his way, in other words, something must lead other Yonko (BB & Shanks) to get in Luffy's way and the big news that Law/X-Drake have Three Poneglyphs will definitely lead for everyone to look for them

Do you remember Alabasta ? just before the War, we had 5 Sides running towards the Capital to start biggest War in the Country and this includes King's Army, Baroque Works, SHs, Marines & Revos

What if this is is what happens after Onigashima:
Law betrays Luffy & steals Road Poneglyphs, then X-Drake betrays him and he turns out to be a Marine Spy (After all he loved to be Marine when he was a Kid and then joined them after his Father's Death) and he takes those Poneglyphs Copies to Marines or Vegapunk or WG or whatever


Alliance loses because of this Betrayal and Kaido/BM decide to leave immediately and go recover those Road Poneglyphs
Luffy & Co. recover or escape after the battle and decide to go after them too
BB & Shanks intervene and decide to go there too, and not to mention Revos
This Idea will also force other Third Parties to join this War such as Crocodile, Capone, Urouge .... etc
Because it's One Piece we are talking about, whoever wins and takes Road Poneglyphs can find it now (Similar to Movie Stampede honestly)
Of course i only mentioned Three Road Poneglyphs but Oda can find a way to include fourth one too, what if it's in WG possession
What if Shanks gave it to them which explains their relationship

Of course this is a Crazy Theory, but if Oda really wants to end One Piece in 5 Years then this is the War that makes sense
Because it doesn't make sense if Oda wants 5 years but plans to make both Wano War & End War, unless they are one after the other ... etc
And it doesn't have to end before Luffy find One Piece, it can stay ongoing for the remaining time of One Piece, after all, everyone is fighting there, not just two sides
"Throne War" to be exact

I can definitely see this happening, but it's also what i basically hope to happen xD

 

[Jake Wu Long]

Hey guys, what if Law really betrays Luffy
Because let's think about it, why would X-Drake betray Yonko for sake of some Supernova & few Samurai, it's obvious everyone bets on Kaido winning so his Betrayal isn't for sake of Alliance, but for something else, personal benefit most probably
Especially now that they gonna hear BM is allied with Kaido, it's not like X-Drake will say :"Bro, i'm sorry, forget that i saved you, i'm going to return to Kaido's side now" xD

So what kind of Personal Benefit are we talking about here ?
Obviously if these Supernova really want to become Pirate King, there is one thing that can interest them and is more valuable than defeating Kaido honestly, and that is Road Poneglyphs !!

Let's not forget that Law told his Crew not to tell SHs of his Capture which means he was already confident he is gonna escape and we just saw how he did it, which means he already knew of X-Drake's Conspiracy before his Capture and seeing how Law never had time alone since Wano Arc started, this indicates that Law & X-Drake met before Luffy arrived and made a Plan together
As for Last Chapter, Law's Words to X-Drake were like: "Hey, now i fully trust u since u saved me and betrayed Hawkins"

However saying Law is gonna betray Luffy isn't a light statement, the guy saved him many times, is allied with him and defeated Doffy for him, but Law doesn't plan to turn against Luffy or harm him however it's possible he will instead abandon them in the war and steal Road Poneglyphs from both Kaido & Luffy and his DF is very suitable for such task

The question now is, where would such Sub-Plot lead ? the answer is simple, Luffy needs Road Poneglyphs to reach One Piece so defeating Yonko isn't necessary except if they get in his way, in other words, something must lead other Yonko (BB & Shanks) to get in Luffy's way and the big news that Law/X-Drake have Three Poneglyphs will definitely lead for everyone to look for them

Do you remember Alabasta ? just before the War, we had 5 Sides running towards the Capital to start biggest War in the Country and this includes King's Army, Baroque Works, SHs, Marines & Revos

What if this is is what happens after Onigashima:
Law betrays Luffy & steals Road Poneglyphs, then X-Drake betrays him and he turns out to be a Marine Spy (After all he loved to be Marine when he was a Kid and then joined them after his Father's Death) and he takes those Poneglyphs Copies to Marines or Vegapunk or WG or whatever


Alliance loses because of this Betrayal and Kaido/BM decide to leave immediately and go recover those Road Poneglyphs
Luffy & Co. recover or escape after the battle and decide to go after them too
BB & Shanks intervene and decide to go there too, and not to mention Revos
This Idea will also force other Third Parties to join this War such as Crocodile, Capone, Urouge .... etc
Because it's One Piece we are talking about, whoever wins and takes Road Poneglyphs can find it now (Similar to Movie Stampede honestly)
Of course i only mentioned Three Road Poneglyphs but Oda can find a way to include fourth one too, what if it's in WG possession
What if Shanks gave it to them which explains their relationship

Of course this is a Crazy Theory, but if Oda really wants to end One Piece in 5 Years then this is the War that makes sense
Because it doesn't make sense if Oda wants 5 years but plans to make both Wano War & End War, unless they are one after the other ... etc
And it doesn't have to end before Luffy find One Piece, it can stay ongoing for the remaining time of One Piece, after all, everyone is fighting there, not just two sides
"Throne War" to be exact

I can definitely see this happening, but it's also what i basically hope to happen xD

I always thought about a Law and X-drake alliance, but not in the terms of being villans or betraying Luffy's crew. For the contrary, Law could be irritated with mugiwaras fooled acting but he seems to me like a loyal person. on the other hand, X-drake is similar in personality to Law however i don't discard the double agent theory but we do not know almost anything of Drake motivations yet. We must wait for the finish of this arc.

 

[Salah Eddine]

I always thought about a Law and X-drake alliance, but not in the terms of being villans or betraying Luffy's crew. For the contrary, Law could be irritated with mugiwaras fooled acting but he seems to me like a loyal person. on the other hand, X-drake is similar in personality to Law however i don't discard the double agent theory but we do not know almost anything of Drake motivations yet. We must wait for the finish of this arc.

Yes i'm also not confident in the idea of Law's Betrayal however it's very possible for X-Drake and it could trigger the end war

 

[Jake Wu Long]

Yes i'm also not confident in the idea of Law's Betrayal however it's very possible for X-Drake and it could trigger the end war

Imagine X-Drake escaping at the end of war while he is taking a super buster call to Wano only permited to him with all 3 almirants and various vice almirants. would be nice and terrify

 

[Haku]

Imagine X-Drake escaping at the end of war while he is taking a super buster call to Wano only permited to him with all 3 almirants and various vice almirants. would be nice and terrify

Tha would be some power moves on the WG part....

 

[Salah Eddine]

Imagine X-Drake escaping at the end of war while he is taking a super buster call to Wano only permited to him with all 3 almirants and various vice almirants. would be nice and terrify

The reason i believe the end war is gonna be next to red line and in Marines/WG territory is because this is the best way Oda can do it to fulfull the dreams of everyone

Because look at it, Luffy wanted to go to WCI for Sanji so Road Poneglyph wasn't even needed to convince him to go there, and his Alliance to defeat Kaido happened before Road Poneglyphs were even introduced and Zou was a good Arc even if Oda didn't include Poneglyph in it

So in other words, the fact that Oda included Road Poneglyphs means he have big plans for them
That's why everyone fighting for them is a fitting reason to create End War for One Piece

All Yonko + Marines + WG + Revos + Shichibukai + Supernova can all collide near Red Line and have biggest War ever that both Oda & Kaido promised, not to mention that many important characters are present in Mariejois right now and i think that small Revo attack was only created by Oda to make Reverie extended and force present guests to stay there

A war there can simultaneously fulfill everyone's dreams
This is what i want to happen:

1. Marines occupied by Reverie & Revo Attack ----> Reverie Extended & all Guests stay there
2. X-Drake steals Road Poneglyphs and take them to Marines or WG
3. Alliance defeat Orochi but lost against Kaido & BM
4. Kaido & BM are interrupted by news of X-Drake's Betrayal + Fight at Reverie + Poseidon is there
5. Kaido & BM decide to go there to fight
6. Luffy & Co. escape & recover and learn the location of last Road Poneglyph which is Elbaf
7. Shanks & Teach decide to intervene in that War since Road Poneglyphs are on the line
8. Crocodile & Capone & Urouge & Shichibukai will definitely be interested to go there
9. Luffy decide to not join the war yet, instead go find last Poneglyph and try to return with strong army
10. While everyone is on their way and prepare for Final War, Elbaf Arc will happen
11. Luffy find Road Poneglyph, thanks to all Giant Friends they made before, Elbaf agrees to help (Usopp's Job)
(And this is foreshadowed by how BM believed only Elbaf can help defeat Yonko and Vikings are Oda's inspiration for One Piece anyway)
12. War starts and after some time, Luffy with his Crew & Alliance & new Elbaf Army arrive to challenge everyone
13. Franky can serve his purpose by building Pluton with help of Giants Strength and that's what everyone use to go to War
14. Usopp fulfills his Lie about leading an Army of 8000 Men and lead Giants and becomes a Great Proud Brave Warrior same as Giants
15. War continues, and literally everyone is fighting making Marineford look like a Filler as Oda said
16. Luffy fulfills his first wish of fighting all Yonko, Zoro can fight Mihawk, Chopper's Skills are put to test here ... etc
17. The end of War leads to destruction of Red Line which instantly fulfills Sanji's & Brook's Dream of seeing All Blue & Laboon
18. Dragon fulfills his Dream of destroying WG, Kid wrecks Havoc and proves himself, Yonko are defeated in any way Oda see fits ... etc
19. Yonko & WG & Shichibukai System Fall, and since all Royalties are there, they can do a new Reunion deciding a New World Unity System
+ much much more can happen there

In other words, Wano ---> Onigashima ---> Elbaf ---> End War/One Piece Arc
Sorry for long post, it's just that since it seems One Piece's End is near, i wanted to give my thoughts about the whole ending

 

[Lemonade]

Law betraying Luffy will pretty much damage whatever happened in Dressrosa Arc so I doubt it'll happen.