Spoilers One Piece - Chapter 972 Spoilers

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God_Usopun said:
The traitor is kanjuro
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No it is Kiku!
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Gambit said:
20 years? Looks like Oden used up what he knew or learnt from that travel with Roger. Could it be that in Raftel, there's a letter of prophecy which noted that in 820 years, a reincarnate of the fallen heroes of the past will occur.

Roger said, we were born too early.
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From Laugh Tale they know someone will come. But the exact time they know from the Sea Kings and Shyarlys prophecy.
 
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Chapter 972: I’m Oden! and I was Born to Boil!

Kaido shoots Oden in his Head with a Gun (Scene Drawn as Silhouette), Odens falls into the Iron Pot
Kaido Killed the Old Hag (Higurashi) because she intervened in his Fight against Oden
Oden Secretly gave his Swords to Toki while he was in Jail

 
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Salah Eddine said:
Chapter 972: I’m Oden! and I was Born to Boil!

Kaido shoots Oden in his Head with a Gun (Scene Drawn as Silhouette), Odens falls into the Iron Pot
Kaido Killed the Old Hag (Higurashi) because she intervened in his Fight against Oden
Oden Secretly gave his Swords to Toki while he was in Jail

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I'm glad Kaido exterminated that Kurozumi trash. Also getting dark Katakuri vibes from him. Maybe that theory where Kaido is Katakuri's father is true??
 
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Lemonade said:
I'm glad Kaido exterminated that Kurozumi trash. Also getting dark Katakuri vibes from him. Maybe that theory where Kaido is Katakuri's father is true??
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Kaido's Appearance 5 Years Ago was also very similar to Katakuri (Clothing Choice) and in Ace Novel it's revealed that Kaido was more like a Gangster than a Pirate so i can definitely see the Possibility of Him being Kata's Father
 
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Salah Eddine said:
So i can definitely see the Possibility of Him being Kata's Father
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No way Kaidou is Katakuris father.
Kaidou and Linlin know each other from Rox Pirates. 38 years ago Kaidou was still apprentice on Rox crew. So he might have been ~14-20 years old back then.

Katakuri was already 10 years old back then.
So I think Kid Kuri looking up to Teen Kaidou makes more sense. Especially if you don't think that 20 years old Linlin raped 7 year old Kaidou nor in Brannew calling 30 year old Kaidou apprentice.
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Well we are back to the Main story soon with the fire fest. I really hope we don't see Daifuku with tears in his eyes while calling Kaidou "Daddy"....
 
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Nessos said:
No way Kaidou is Katakuris father.
Kaidou and Linlin know each other from Rox Pirates. 38 years ago Kaidou was still apprentice on Rox crew. So he might have been ~14-20 years old back then.

Katakuri was already 7 years old back then.
So I think Kid Kuri looking up to Teen Kaidou makes more sense. Especially if you don't think that 20 years old Linlin raped 10 year old Kaidou nor in Brannew calling 30 year old Kaidou apprentice.
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Urouge at Age of 45 was called a "Rookie"
So Apprentice doesn't really Equal "Young" & in Ace Novel, Kaido was said to have been a Gangster so perhaps he turned to Piracy late

I don't believe Kaido is Kata's Father, i just said that i see the Possibility
If Kaido is as Old as BM then he was 30 in Rocks Pirates & 48 in this Flashback which is around Age of Current Katakuri, Magellan, Trebol, Urouge, Kuma ... etc and that is definitely acceptable with how he Looks
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Salah Eddine said:
Urouge at Age of 45 was called a "Rookie"
So Apprentice doesn't really Equal "Young" & in Ace Novel, Kaido was said to have been a Gangster so perhaps he turned to Piracy late
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Even so we have Rookies like Capone and Urouge its for me a different how Brannew portrayed Kaidou. If he was a big Gangsta Boss before joining Rocks there have been the need of getting the Respect of the big ones, because he would have been already a big one. Like Capone was seen as great Mafia Boss while being a Pirate Rookie.


And about Ace Novel it just confirmed Kaidou become famous after conquering Wano. I mean he was already a pirate in Odens flashback and still acting like a Gangsta.
 
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Nessos said:
Even so we have Rookies like Capone and Urouge its for me a different how Brannew portrayed Kaidou. If he was a big Gangsta Boss before joining Rocks there have been the need of getting the Respect of the big ones, because he would have been already a big one. Like Capone was seen as great Mafia Boss while being a Pirate Rookie.


And about Ace Novel it just confirmed Kaidou become famous after conquering Wano. I mean he was already a pirate in Odens flashback and still acting like a Gangsta.
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No one said anything about Fame or Big Gangsta Boss, i just said that Age have nothing to do with being called Rookie or Apprentice on a Pirate Ship and his Look 20 Years Ago doesn't deny the possibility of him being 48 years old back then

As i said, it's just a Possibility, no need to try and prove it as impossibility xD
No one truly believes he is Kata's Father anyway, it's just a suggestion
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Nessos said:
No it is Kiku!
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From Laugh Tale they know someone will come. But the exact time they know from the Sea Kings and Shyarlys prophecy.
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I'm telling you kanjuro is the traitor. He stayed behind on DR
Shortly after Jack reached Zou
Kanjuro as he was with kin probably had a VC which he shared with DD who passed it on to Jack
 
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God_Usopun said:
I'm telling you kanjuro is the traitor. He stayed behind on DR
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Story said he sacrificed himself to make sure Kinemon can safe Momo.

On top of that it was implied Doflamingo is looking for Samurais.


Thats why both Raizou and Kiku are more suspicious to me. They were left behind before. Raizou could have contacted Kaidou before entering Zou, might even end up responsible for letting them shipwreck. Or it was the Well informed Kiku who stayed behind in Wano informing Orochi.

Incl. Udon plot my eyes are definetly on Kiku.
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Lemonade said:
Will Orochi and Kaido also end up being boiled??
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At least this chapter will debunk my idea of Kaidou oiling and boiling BM. He know it did not work in Oden so he won't try it with BM xD
 

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Nessos said:

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Oden the umibozu

https://monster.fandom.com/wiki/Umibozu

Would be quite the kicker if it turns out the Kozuki have some Fishmen in their DNA. Maybe Kawamtsu's mom was right; if you're a "Kappa" ( Oden's hair --> Kappa's headplate? ), you're going places in Wano, racism or not haha.

That and Wadatsumi shares his name with the mythical Sea God/Dragon of the undersea Ryukyu Palace....which kinda brings Roger's joke about Neptune's future daughter being shaggy into perspective lol.

THE SHOCKING CONNECTION BETWEEN THE FISHMEN AND THE KOZUKI: GAINT HAIRY MEN
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At least they are both better than Toki being the traitor lol.
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THEY'RE ALL TRAITORS. ALL OF THEM. THEY'RE ALL DENJIROOOOOOOOOOOOO.
 
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I'm glad with this confirmation that Oden is dead...

Coz if he's alive...all of this Wano story will be ruined and pointless....

Imagine you're all hyped to continue someone legacy and prepared to die to avenge his death....then you realize he's alive somewhere....

Oden is alive theory is suck from this perspective....
 

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RIP Oden. Kaido didn't try to pry out any info about Laughtale or Poneglyph from Oden it seems, did he screw up there?

I also find it weird this is where the flashback ends, is there really is no space to show Kaido's assault on Kuri Castle and Toki's prophecy? It's like Oda himself is fanning the flames of Toki is alive theorist. I personally don't subscribe to it but this development really isn't helping my case lol. Not to mention one of my most anticipated moment is Toki's prophecy to see who were present to witness it.

BTW RIP Nessos on that possible 4th Kaido commander silhouette, we won't get answers it seems. Can someone message me on how to use mentions with @someonesusername?
 
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