Chapter Discussion One Piece Chapter 973: The Kozuki Line
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He said the 'demon ' inside him.. Like Haki being called as Ryo, they may have something alternate for it too. However, I put my cents that it has to do with simply changing or altering the image or personality of the person once it suffered from a lot of pain or rage.. Knowing one piece, it can't be impossoble.What I don't get is, did Denjiro's face get transformed by his DF, or his DF is the type that allowed him to posess someone else body?
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I think it serves on one level as a nod to the various classic myths embodied in folklore and fictional works concerning people transforming into yokai and such when overcome with rage and other negative emotions.
Probably also further hints at the literal transformative power of emotions in terms of the effect it can have on the body give enough time, will, and/or trauma. Makes sense in a setting where mind can basically shape matter to an extent. The power of will is supreme.
Then again, could be there's more at play here. We've got shapeshifting foxes, why not other animals? I'm not giving up on my "Denjiro/Kyoshiro's a dog" theory lol. To be more precise, he's a fucking tanuki aka raccoon dog, only now he's Digivolved into full on cursed inugami ( dog yokai )
One big hint? Recall the Fool tarot card that Hawkins employed? Much as in certain real life Tarot decks, the image of the fool is accompanied by that of a dog. I would argue that Denjiro/Kyoshiro is playing the role of the loyal dog, genuine and decidedly not, to two different "fools" in this story: Oden and Orochi. Hell, just think of his pompadour-styled pony tail as the tail of a shiba or akita inu.
Ain't no way no how we get a shapeshifting fox but no tanuki. Neither can you have a plot centered around animals and the value of loyalty without including MAN'S BEST FRIEND.
And as you can see, not only does Denjiro share many traits with the rascally tanuki, so too does he possess a massive pair of balls ( metaphorically speaking in this case.....maybe, it's Oda, who knows
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Probably also further hints at the literal transformative power of emotions in terms of the effect it can have on the body give enough time, will, and/or trauma. Makes sense in a setting where mind can basically shape matter to an extent. The power of will is supreme.
Then again, could be there's more at play here. We've got shapeshifting foxes, why not other animals? I'm not giving up on my "Denjiro/Kyoshiro's a dog" theory lol. To be more precise, he's a fucking tanuki aka raccoon dog, only now he's Digivolved into full on cursed inugami ( dog yokai )
One big hint? Recall the Fool tarot card that Hawkins employed? Much as in certain real life Tarot decks, the image of the fool is accompanied by that of a dog. I would argue that Denjiro/Kyoshiro is playing the role of the loyal dog, genuine and decidedly not, to two different "fools" in this story: Oden and Orochi. Hell, just think of his pompadour-styled pony tail as the tail of a shiba or akita inu.
Ain't no way no how we get a shapeshifting fox but no tanuki. Neither can you have a plot centered around animals and the value of loyalty without including MAN'S BEST FRIEND.
And as you can see, not only does Denjiro share many traits with the rascally tanuki, so too does he possess a massive pair of balls ( metaphorically speaking in this case.....maybe, it's Oda, who knows
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His face got transformed by 24/7 raging for like 2 years apparently. That's why his eyes are angled so dramatically and his hair lightened.What I don't get is, did Denjiro's face get transformed by his DF, or his DF is the type that allowed him to posess someone else body?
He didn't have a mother to warn him that his face would get stuck like that!
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@Waindo like a more extreme version of the dad from twin peaks
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HahahahahahahahahaHis face got transformed by 24/7 raging for like 2 years apparently. That's why his eyes are angled so dramatically and his hair lightened.
He didn't have a mother to warn him that his face would get stuck like that!
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I almost just want Kinemon to be the 'traitor' just for the aesthetics of Kinemon (such a bad ass kabuki/samurai and emotive character design--and we have yet to see anywhere near his best with his foxfire style and if he can use his DF in battle in surprising ways) vs Denjiro (THE most badass looking quintessential badboy/antihero/ronin design ugh! PERFECT!).Hahahahahahahahaha
Like, the full spreads of them clashing swords would be ICONIC
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It reminds me of Know from HxH that got grey hair in like seconds bcs of stressWhat I don't get is, did Denjiro's face get transformed by his DF, or his DF is the type that allowed him to posess someone else body?
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Denjiro stayed for some time in that house until the anger & time turned him into what he is now, it wasn't like few hours or something
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I thought his ability (not the name of his devil fruir though) was revealed when he cut Hiyori. Is hard to say if his ability comes from a a samurai technique or style he owns or a DF, but "the spirit of rage" for me is not literal, just something like "my anger changed me in that way", from the emotional field to the physical one.
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You was saying Orchi was a weakling for weeks. And the Fmfirst chapter Orochi isn't portrayed as just a coward showing his badass side gives you smile on your face.
That is qute confusing.
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He couldn't surpess his anger for weeks.What I don't get is, did Denjiro's face get transformed by his DF, or his DF is the type that allowed him to posess someone else body?
The stress let his hair age super fast and his facemuscles froze so that e is dammed to look angry for eternity.
Demon just a metaphor.
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Orochi is a like a Oden copycat. So the boiling Orochi did, I wonder if it was a daily thing. It would remind me of Alexander Fu Sheng. And his character in this movie called men of the monastery (That he plays the same character in multiple variations). They said his character was taking special baths from a child which made his skin as strong as iron and impervious to wounding. But he only had one weak point in his groin/rectum (depending on the film).
I wonder if the macho idea of Oden comes from him. Hence the being able to boil in a pot. And I wonder if, like it was stated above, if Orochi will get that tough skin to make him harder to beat. Where before he needed the barrier and now his body toughness is his barrier.
As for Toki, she covers Oden's mouth because he's oblivious to the fact that Toki is content living her life with Oden. If she is dead, I wonder who took the time devil fruit. That may explain the traitor. Who gets the plans, goes a couple moments into the future and warns Orochi. Of course that seems pointless.
Anyway, the Kyoshiro thing is interesting. It clearly had to be someone we had introduced already. At this point. Well not really. So Denjiro was giving to the poor. Ashura was building ships. Kiku was rounding up samurai. Kanjuro and Kin'emon were out at sea. Dog and Cat on Zou. Kawamatsu in prison (the only one Kaido had true access to). Kawamatsu is really the only one who really has no ties to Wano whatsover. The humans were all born in Wano. The Minks from Zou, with connections. Although the fishmen may be connected to the Kozuki and Ancient Kingdom. But Kawamatsu was recovering the weapons, I believe. Raizo was on Zou but now we get this flashback of Oden telling them all to meet up on Zou. So that seems to hint about Raizo being on Zou. Cat and Dog captured, maybe a vivre card was made through one of them.. Willfully or not. Bepo has a vivre card to Zou, I believe. And apparently luffy probably didn't recognize a vivre card was made for him while he was out cold. May have been Kaido's idea to let them go and lead them to the other scabbards. Because how exactly did they escape Kaido?
Kyoshiro now, he said that he'd love to cross blades with the scabbards. That may hint that he has grudges towards them (him not knowing they got sent 20 years into the future and thinking it was just abandonment) although he is loyal to Hiyori or that he is just playing his role. I did say that Kyoshiro never mentioned he was the shogun's guard dog, but that depends on who he sees as the true Shogun (Oden). And seeing as he was guarding Hiyori, maybe he sees her or Oden through her. Anyone who disrespects the Shogun (Oden or Hiyori) must be dealt with. So he seems like he's speaking for Orochi but is actually speaking against him. He is now in charge of the Flower Capital now. So in Hiyori's fake death, she gave Kyoshiro the message. He took time to decipher it. Then he used it to his advantage and gave Orochi the information. To take advantage of Orochi destroying the bridges and giving Orochi a false sense of security. Plus if Oden message of pirates coming to Wano in 20 years got to the scabbards, then Kyoshiro may have tested them. By sending Drake and Page One. To determine how strong these intruders were and see if they were the people Oden spoke of. Because as they said, why send Drake and Page One to take out a shopkeeper. Then the cross blades with the scabbards, could mean that he intends to test their strength or play along to the very end. Meaning seem like he's against them during battle and then at the last moment catch Kaido's men off guard as they did to Oden. So anyway, he tested Sanji. Then he stepped in front of Zoro's sword slash to test Zoro. But to also say that revenge against Orochi's is there's and to not ruin the main plan. Possibly through those two incidents, testing Sanji and Zoro he was forming a plan.
Oda's leaving us in suspense though. We don't know when the flashback ends. We thought it ended last chapter with the 20 years into the future plan. Then we see mention of Today, as if the flashback ends now. Then we'll probably get a Kaido flashback too.
One oddity is that I noticed that for some reason, Toki gets knocked to the ground in black robes. Then all of a sudden is in white robes. Which is weird. This prior to the cloak she has on leaving the castle.
Damn. I usually use Oro Jackson, where there's like 50 pages of comments on a chapter. It's odd to me to only see three pages now.
I wonder if the macho idea of Oden comes from him. Hence the being able to boil in a pot. And I wonder if, like it was stated above, if Orochi will get that tough skin to make him harder to beat. Where before he needed the barrier and now his body toughness is his barrier.
As for Toki, she covers Oden's mouth because he's oblivious to the fact that Toki is content living her life with Oden. If she is dead, I wonder who took the time devil fruit. That may explain the traitor. Who gets the plans, goes a couple moments into the future and warns Orochi. Of course that seems pointless.
Anyway, the Kyoshiro thing is interesting. It clearly had to be someone we had introduced already. At this point. Well not really. So Denjiro was giving to the poor. Ashura was building ships. Kiku was rounding up samurai. Kanjuro and Kin'emon were out at sea. Dog and Cat on Zou. Kawamatsu in prison (the only one Kaido had true access to). Kawamatsu is really the only one who really has no ties to Wano whatsover. The humans were all born in Wano. The Minks from Zou, with connections. Although the fishmen may be connected to the Kozuki and Ancient Kingdom. But Kawamatsu was recovering the weapons, I believe. Raizo was on Zou but now we get this flashback of Oden telling them all to meet up on Zou. So that seems to hint about Raizo being on Zou. Cat and Dog captured, maybe a vivre card was made through one of them.. Willfully or not. Bepo has a vivre card to Zou, I believe. And apparently luffy probably didn't recognize a vivre card was made for him while he was out cold. May have been Kaido's idea to let them go and lead them to the other scabbards. Because how exactly did they escape Kaido?
Kyoshiro now, he said that he'd love to cross blades with the scabbards. That may hint that he has grudges towards them (him not knowing they got sent 20 years into the future and thinking it was just abandonment) although he is loyal to Hiyori or that he is just playing his role. I did say that Kyoshiro never mentioned he was the shogun's guard dog, but that depends on who he sees as the true Shogun (Oden). And seeing as he was guarding Hiyori, maybe he sees her or Oden through her. Anyone who disrespects the Shogun (Oden or Hiyori) must be dealt with. So he seems like he's speaking for Orochi but is actually speaking against him. He is now in charge of the Flower Capital now. So in Hiyori's fake death, she gave Kyoshiro the message. He took time to decipher it. Then he used it to his advantage and gave Orochi the information. To take advantage of Orochi destroying the bridges and giving Orochi a false sense of security. Plus if Oden message of pirates coming to Wano in 20 years got to the scabbards, then Kyoshiro may have tested them. By sending Drake and Page One. To determine how strong these intruders were and see if they were the people Oden spoke of. Because as they said, why send Drake and Page One to take out a shopkeeper. Then the cross blades with the scabbards, could mean that he intends to test their strength or play along to the very end. Meaning seem like he's against them during battle and then at the last moment catch Kaido's men off guard as they did to Oden. So anyway, he tested Sanji. Then he stepped in front of Zoro's sword slash to test Zoro. But to also say that revenge against Orochi's is there's and to not ruin the main plan. Possibly through those two incidents, testing Sanji and Zoro he was forming a plan.
Oda's leaving us in suspense though. We don't know when the flashback ends. We thought it ended last chapter with the 20 years into the future plan. Then we see mention of Today, as if the flashback ends now. Then we'll probably get a Kaido flashback too.
One oddity is that I noticed that for some reason, Toki gets knocked to the ground in black robes. Then all of a sudden is in white robes. Which is weird. This prior to the cloak she has on leaving the castle.
Damn. I usually use Oro Jackson, where there's like 50 pages of comments on a chapter. It's odd to me to only see three pages now.
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I've a theory that actually grand fleet survived against Orcoch's surprise attack and went through the capital . Denjiro helped them secretly !
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Thats must go to happen because Orochi dont sealed the entry to the capital i think for his trust on Kyoshiro for the raid doesnt escape. But that is exactly what Denjiro & Hiyori would want. In fact Denjiro achieve his main goal which was gain the trust of Orochi enough to gain advantage in the future upcoming war. He did it completely because nobody, even the others scabbard knows something about his true identity as he asked Hiyori to do in secret.
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