[FIN] Traditional Mafia Round 2 - Case Closed

[Dragomir]

Then read again till it makes sense.
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townforming my friend

No, it's not working. Explain it for me. Where did you come up with all over the place reads when my only one is on you?

What does this mean?

The reason I was pocketing Shottie is exactly the reason most people complain about...the reason of everyone being scummy and pushing against each other.

What does this have to do with my questions to Wai?

Also you should know that Wai is afraid of being day oned but he also is motivated which makes it hard to read him.

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townforming my friend

Pocketing sounds more like it.

 

[Okosan]

Cooo? (How do people feel about Juliet in general? Any strong feelings there?)

 

[God_Usopun]

Cooo? (How do people feel about Juliet in general? Any strong feelings there?)

She got only two posts so far

 

[Okosan]

She got only two posts so far

Coo! Cooo! (Just because she only has a few posts doesn't mean you can't analyze them. Does this mean you're neutral on her?)

 

[God_Usopun]

Coo! Cooo! (Just because she only has a few posts doesn't mean you can't analyze them. Does this mean you're neutral on her?)

Did you read the posts? What did you get from them? Because I couldn't get anything from them

 

[Okosan]

Coooo? (As Okosan put in his reads post, Juliet's posts are just complaining about potential inactivity in the game, and then defending said post. The first Okosan finds scum is more likely to do as it's a really cheap way to seem like you're participating in the thread / you care about what's happening. The second seems scummy because as town, assuming that you did make the first post, why would you care enough about the couple of people sussing you for it to devote a post defending yourself? Why not instead catch up and post something relevant, and if your wagon actually gains enough traction then you can defend what you said earlier.)

 

[Rej]

Why are you self-conscious about you slipping if you get into a discussion? It should not matter if you are town. Are you town Wai?

Why are you so worked up by Udell calling you the scummiest person Wai?

Elaborate on this, please.

Hmm, what makes it half-assed?

I dislike this post for one thing. There's a pocketing tone to it.

First, Shottie made this post talking about how it'd suck if she got lynched cause of AM's vote. Then Rej immediately votes for AFH after the post is made, insinuating that he's bad for voting up Shottie. The timing of it and the reason being given makes me think he's trying to pocket Shottie by voting up AFH and in a way siding with her. I'm not married to it right now but this is how I feel on his post.

Bad Rej. Baaaaad Rej.

There has been no angle-shooting at all so far. All the discussion has been in-game about the posts said by each other bar the meta Gambit stuff Kibi has been pursuing. That is not angle-shooting.

@Dragomir again I feel like you forced this missunderstanding.
First you enter normally following the mainstream by giving your thoughts to the Wai case, while being deflective about the suspicion thrown at you. See at how you want Udell to elaborate on you, you go back to Kibi too, but then you direct a case against me.
I see nothing wrong with doing the votes in colaboration with what you call "pocketing", which could also be interpreted as an attempt to townform and use votes to provoke interaction.
That's why I disliked your approach because it got basically explained how I force interactions with this votes.

So yes back to you:

No, it's not working. Explain it for me. Where did you come up with all over the place reads when my only one is on you?

What does this mean?

What does this have to do with my questions to Wai?
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Pocketing sounds more like it.

That's why your reads were all over the place, the Udell and Kibi interaction from your side were superweak, rather you try to force interaction with me. In hope to make me look bad? I hope so not.
And yeah maybe "reads" was a bad wording, but I meant your whole post, including the Wai read.

i don't care I felt like giving my posts something extra. Dunno why Waindo bothers you in this context. Because I decided to give him a free pass?

 

[Okosan]

Coo! (Okosan's also changed his mind on Rej. While he still hasn't caught up on the whole Rej/Waindo thing (which will probably further change his opinion in some way) Okosan is actually very slightly leaning scum on Rej now. Not enough to push at the moment, though. He'll definitely have a stronger opinion on it tomorrow)

 

[A famous historian]

. And I don't even know why I'm AFH's revenge target.

As a mafia veteran I thought you knew how day 1 lynch work.

The answer to your question should be obvious. I think you are most likely scum as of day 1. Otherwise I wouldn’t be voting for you.

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I may not be Alwaysmind in this forum but my joke meta is still here. You obviously missed the case closed pun.

 

[Okosan]

Coooooo? (What exactly is townforming btw?)

 

[Rej]

Coooo? (As Okosan put in his reads post, Juliet's posts are just complaining about potential inactivity in the game, and then defending said post. The first Okosan finds scum is more likely to do as it's a really cheap way to seem like you're participating in the thread / you care about what's happening. The second seems scummy because as town, assuming that you did make the first post, why would you care enough about the couple of people sussing you for it to devote a post defending yourself? Why not instead catch up and post something relevant, and if your wagon actually gains enough traction then you can defend what you said earlier.)

I agree, Juliet is often scummy D1 you should get used to it. Feel free to pressure her or tag her.

 

[Okosan]

I agree, Juliet is often scummy D1 you should get used to it. Feel free to pressure her or tag her.

Coo! (Okosan's already voting her, but fair enough)

 

[A famous historian]

vote lynch AFH

He just voted Shottie. Its like he follows an agenda and thats what no towny has this early. He tried to do it in the sign ups too

@A famous historian

Defense please.
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Imho we should start voting GU/AFH because both are hard to read and both will be better readable under pressure.

My meta is

 

[Rej]

Coo! (Okosan's also changed his mind on Rej. While he still hasn't caught up on the whole Rej/Waindo thing (which will probably further change his opinion in some way) Okosan is actually very slightly leaning scum on Rej now. Not enough to push at the moment, though. He'll definitely have a stronger opinion on it tomorrow)

elaborate why, you have some recent posts from me to analyse...

Coooooo? (What exactly is townforming btw?)

often interactions by civillians in the DP to try coordinate the DP through and eventually call out some nights actions, invest or vig targets, so we can start massconfirming in the following DPs
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Coo! (Okosan's already voting her, but fair enough)

I lost overview about the votes, I just know several people got each one vote on them.

 

[God_Usopun]

Coooo? (As Okosan put in his reads post, Juliet's posts are just complaining about potential inactivity in the game, and then defending said post. The first Okosan finds scum is more likely to do as it's a really cheap way to seem like you're participating in the thread / you care about what's happening. The second seems scummy because as town, assuming that you did make the first post, why would you care enough about the couple of people sussing you for it to devote a post defending yourself? Why not instead catch up and post something relevant, and if your wagon actually gains enough traction then you can defend what you said earlier.)

I'm pretty sure she was clear in her second post. But you are reacting like that only for her and do not pay attention to the other one who have less post or one more post than her. That's what I find odd

 

[Dragomir]

@Dragomir again I feel like you forced this missunderstanding.
First you enter normally following the mainstream by giving your thoughts to the Wai case, while being deflective about the suspicion thrown at you. See at how you want Udell to elaborate on you, you go back to Kibi too, but then you direct a case against me.
I see nothing wrong with doing the votes in colaboration with what you call "pocketing", which could also be interpreted as an attempt to townform and use votes to provoke interaction.
That's why I disliked your approach because it got basically explained how I force interactions with this votes.

So yes back to you:

That's why your reads were all over the place, the Udell and Kibi interaction from your side were superweak, rather you try to force interaction with me. In hope to make me look bad? I hope so not.
And yeah maybe "reads" was a bad wording, but I meant your whole post, including the Wai read.

i don't care I felt like giving my posts something extra. Dunno why Waindo bothers you in this context. Because I decided to give him a free pass?

What thoughts? Asking a question is giving a thought or a read, it's to try to reach that. Atm, I had no clear thoughts on Wai or Udell, so I asked them questions. My one and only read was and is still on you, thus I direct the case on you. The timing of it is pocketing for me, not whatever this town forming thing you're coming up with. There was no hint of a mindmeld with you and Shottie.

I can't have all over the place reads when I only have one read. You are the one who misunderstood my post.

What I have towards Wai has nothing to do with you. Why do you keep trying to insinuate that it is the case?

 

[A famous historian]

Sorry for arriving late. So far the weirdest thing I noticed was how A Famous Historian was first to lynch vote unprompted and with little reason.

@Okosan have you read Release That Witch? One of the best characters of that web novel also speaks pidgeon.

Aren’t day1 lynched supposed to get the convo running? Come now Toger. You know how the game is played.

Are you suggesting town shouldn’t have the first lynch vote?

 

[Okosan]

I'm pretty sure she was clear in her second post. But you are reacting like that only for her and do not pay attention to the other one who have less post or one more post than her. That's what I find odd

COOO? (Eh her second post was really just an excuse for her not to have said anything of value in the first post. And it's not the fact that she has few posts, it's the content of the posts that Okosan doesn't really like. If there's anyone else with a similar content situation Okosan didn't note them down as he was reading through the thread.)

 

[Juliet]

I'm honestly getting scum vibes from Okosan for voting an inactive and I was asleep at the time and recently woke up. From my experience scum always vote an inactive and they do this so that they don't have to worry about getting a response from the inactive players and inactive players are an easy mislynch for scum and also on page 1- 3 most of the posts were fluff.

Maybe I should claim in case I get mislynched during my absense if I don't come back.

 

[God_Usopun]

COOO? (Eh her second post was really just an excuse for her not to have said anything of value in the first post. And it's not the fact that she has few posts, it's the content of the posts that Okosan doesn't really like. If there's anyone else with a similar content situation Okosan didn't note them down as he was reading through the thread.)

Right because you decided to tunnel on her-Ju