[FIN] Traditional Mafia Round 2 - Case Closed

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Waindo said:
How are you so sure that Naomi got RBed?

@Naomi your take on this?
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I know i did send action to rb okosan last night. But your results show him bypass my role block.

so two possibility's

1.So if he did get past me, means he rb immune
2. I got jailed/rb making my rb stopped.
 
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Rej said:
I am hopping on Rej too, he is too scummy.
Vote lynch Rej
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masons that didn't got shot by mafia...my ass
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Coooooo? (Actually why would mafia shoot us last night? Shooting one of us just confirms the other for the day and shows the thread that both wagons were town. Meanwhile we're obvious frame targets due to have the thread thinking we're openly partnering or something)
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Bonnibel said:
what do others think of Historian?
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Coo Coooo! (Okosan thinks they were trying to pre-emptively jump onto the Rej wagon since there was a high chance Rej was going to get lynched at the beginning of the day. They want to pressure Rej with votes, and yet apparently they have absolutely no opinion on him? Actually @A famous historian Can we get your reads list? Top few scum and top few town)
 
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Okosan said:
Coooooo? (Actually why would mafia shoot us last night? Shooting one of us just confirms the other for the day and shows the thread that both wagons were town. Meanwhile we're obvious frame targets due to have the thread thinking we're openly partnering or something)
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Coo Coooo! (Okosan thinks they were trying to pre-emptively jump onto the Rej wagon since there was a high chance Rej was going to get lynched at the beginning of the day. They want to pressure Rej with votes, and yet apparently they have absolutely no opinion on him? Actually @A famous historian Can we get your reads list? Top few scum and top few town)
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because masons are one the strongest townies and it's always for good if mafia takes them out, so I also was salty that the suspicion on Dragomir let to the outing of masons
 
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Rej said:
because masons are one the strongest townies and it's always for good if mafia takes them out, so I also was salty that the suspicion on Dragomir let to the outing of masons
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Ok, so if you're mad that we got outed, why does it put doubt on the claim? How did you saltiness translate into doubt?
 
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Rej said:
because masons are one the strongest townies and it's always for good if mafia takes them out, so I also was salty that the suspicion on Dragomir let to the outing of masons
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Cooooooo! (Sure agreed. But in this case last day phase just about everyone was suspecting our mason claim. A lot of people were even saying there's guaranteed scum between the two of Drago and Juliet. So it would be pretty easy to push one of us regardless.)

COO! (On top of that, there was very likely to be some sort of watcher on us last night)
 
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Dragomir said:
You got role blocked. Wai's results were tampered with. Simple explanation to all this.
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It's not that simple. I thought maybe it's just Wai and Naomi being scum mates but Wai can't be scum since you Masons didn't deny that Okosan visited Udell. Now I'm not entirely sure how result tampering works on Trad, but for scum to take a shot at Waindo in the dark is very risky. First they needed to know that Waindo was an invest-type role and second they need to know what type of invest he was. I know hypothetically, scum could've made this happen flawlessly by having a Mafia Cop invest Waindo N1, but it's not a very high chance. Whenever I think of a situation that explains this madness between Naomi/Waindo/Oko, it results in "someone confirming that something happened/didn't happen" which conflicts with what another person is saying. @Dragomir how does result tampering exactly work?

also @Rej what's a Hider? I couldn't understand what the wiki was talking about
 
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Okosan said:
Cooooooo! (Sure agreed. But in this case last day phase just about everyone was suspecting our mason claim. A lot of people were even saying there's guaranteed scum between the two of Drago and Juliet. So it would be pretty easy to push one of us regardless.)

COO! (On top of that, there was very likely to be some sort of watcher on us last night)
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Wai was on you and probably a transport. That's where we are so far.

And that's why I moved my vote away from Dragomir, because in your defense for Dragomir you implied to be masons with him......
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Bonnibel said:
It's not that simple. I thought maybe it's just Wai and Naomi being scum mates but Wai can't be scum since you Masons didn't deny that Okosan visited Udell. Now I'm not entirely sure how result tampering works on Trad, but for scum to take a shot at Waindo in the dark is very risky. First they needed to know that Waindo was an invest-type role and second they need to know what type of invest he was. I know hypothetically, scum could've made this happen flawlessly by having a Mafia Cop invest Waindo N1, but it's not a very high chance. Whenever I think of a situation that explains this madness between Naomi/Waindo/Oko, it results in "someone confirming that something happened/didn't happen" which conflicts with what another person is saying. @Dragomir how does result tampering exactly work?

also @Rej what's a Hider? I couldn't understand what the wiki was talking about
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I can't be shot aslong I have a target that isn't shot. See it as a bullet proof towny with some conditions to it.
 
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