[FIN] Traditional Mafia Round 4 - Crazy Noisy Bizarre Town

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My attendance will be better bro, my b for jumping in late @Dragomir


@ovaselinenever if you doesn't know what playful means, then there is google

@Dragon D. Luffy, I gave my everything to give credible reads which are not consisting of any bullshit or bias and telling my stance to the people and how they entered. I don't need to justify your wrong suspicion on me. You have to properly elaborate on why I am scummy and on why my reads could be random. I believe every read from myself.
This post reads off as a little defensive to me. The tone of it seems aggravated, I’ll have to go back and see if your previous posting matches this but it’s definitely the first thing to catch my eye.

you seem to be pulling a sympathy gaining move with your choice of words which I don’t like. “I gave my everything to give credible reads”..
 
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It seems like only 6 players have showed up and the others still haven't posted.
Seems like you have stopped talking after I voted for you.


Rej and historian, right now.

I'm waiting for them to reply to my posts, or for someone to disagree with me, or for someone to say something even more suspicious.
I did already
 
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Reading Posts isn't trying to catch Scum ?
I have all my time to observe & reply to anything i deem worthy of mentioning
My first post was a simple short comment on D1, i don't decide how others reply and prolong discussions
No it isn’t. It’s a good way to keep up with the game stay updated but that benefits both parties now doesn’t it?

it’ll be interesting to see how you look as the game progresses and if you actually decide to push other posters. You seem like you’re going to be one of those only defend yourself and stances type posters. I’m other words you might be scum.
 

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We're vibing way too much, you're giving me the heebie jeebies lol. You town my brother? :pepewhy:
:pepewhy: come into my arms
I mean playful could be one of the words to describe me, I've been watching a guy doing song covers on electric toothbrushes for the past hour or so.

How could I give you any coherent reads in this chaos tho? :pepethinking:
flow, do you :weirdpeep: look whats open or where you can add your opinion, let's resolve the chaos
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My attendance will be better bro, my b for jumping in late @Dragomir




This post reads off as a little defensive to me. The tone of it seems aggravated, I’ll have to go back and see if your previous posting matches this but it’s definitely the first thing to catch my eye.

you seem to be pulling a sympathy gaining move with your choice of words which I don’t like. “I gave my everything to give credible reads”..
legit read of yours +1, but I wanted to emphasize that for a page one read I gave my best to contribute, my scum self would be more halfassed
it was in relation to what DDL stated, he said I wouldn't believe my own reads, but I am convinced otherwise
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No it isn’t. It’s a good way to keep up with the game stay updated but that benefits both parties now doesn’t it?

it’ll be interesting to see how you look as the game progresses and if you actually decide to push other posters. You seem like you’re going to be one of those only defend yourself and stances type posters. I’m other words you might be scum.
I really don't see how playstyles is even a thing worth mentioning in Mafia Games ?
How you scumhunt or play is something subjective, we don't need each other's opinion

You basically speculated how i'm going to play from just D1 and before N1 and criticized me for that particular Speculation of yours
You're either laying the foundation to target me later in the Game or just posting to post
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Btw guys, it would be helpful for those who were Members of Oro Jackson to mention their Old Name if they changed it here
I'm having doubts about whether i'm playing with New Players or Old ones who changed their Names
 
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:datea: Have I missed anything important and/or noteworthy?
 
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I probably messed up on the quotes since alot happened during my absence.

Yeah the point of the game is to read ppl from their posts, the problem is that D1 start posts are 99% trollposting.
Often times I have seen D1 just being trollpost and players don't get serious till D2. This is the part where scum can easily hide in the thread on D1 and troll along with the other players. D1 in other forums I have seen players randomly place votes and just leave it there from what I remember while sometimes others are able to find suspicious posts on D1 and vote there.

I don't think what you are describing is a mafia game.

You are aware most places in the internet don't even give players abilities and just use the thread to scumhunt, right?

You don't need info to play mafia. Actually, the game is more fun when there is no info to give all the answers.
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That can be fixed if you lot start non-troll posting and maybe lynch the people who refuse to contribute Day 1.

The quality of Day 1 is as good as you make it.
Lynching players who refuse to contribute can sometimes be an inactive town. Often times scum will keep the inactive players and use them as a mislynch. I do agree that I would rather get out of troll posting since sometimes day 1 will end with just players troll posting.

Most Games start with Evening Phase and it's literally the same as this D1 and the chances of catching a Scum in Evening Phase are like 5% or less, especially since most Posts will be trolling & memes
Town of Salem and Regular games are the games that normally start with evening phases and Trad games always starts with a day phase.

True... Most mafia don't want to be too active and accidentally end up on a train to Lynchester
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I see @Gambit is developing a new meta of being whimsical in games... :pepehmm: I'll figure you out
Some mafia can be inactive while others can be active and I have seen it go both ways.

Seems like you have stopped talking after I voted for you.
Did you by any chance vote me because you knew it was midnight at my place and hoped I don't come back before the day phase ends so that way you don't have to worry about getting a response back from me? I recently woke up.
 

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Hosts being able to do wild stuff doesn't mean one can't discuss and theorize about the setup, like that makes no sense. It's exactly because of it that you should theorize and try to figure stuff out
Indeed it serves a purpose to discuss set up but discussing number of mafia to town ration is ??? to discuss because in games this size the number is usually known.

What instad you could discuss is how this game has a JoJo name meaning a jojo reference and how this game could have roles based on JoJo part 4 - that makes way more sense to discuss that town vs mafia ratio

The "make flow above the radar" is an extremely cheap way to have some bland reasoning to suspect someone. It feels like basic level suspicion so I don't feel it's genuine.
Because it is basic doesn't mean it is wrong. Going by logic here discussing set up the way you did brings nothing to table other than appearing to be pushing game forward even if it isn't really pushing

It's also dishonest af especially since I'm not hiding behind mechanical talk to fake contribution so I'm not sure where "flow a bit above the radar" can be applied here.
And yet despite your best efforts to not do it you did it

It's a very helpful post to have as an anchor, and it's also about my experience with Drago and knowing him as a host since I mentioned his indie affection and his tendencies as host that would have the original 19 players setup be just a +1 townie with the addition of a 20th post.
And once again - rather than discussing a possibility of an indie it would be better to discuss who the indie might be cause at the same time you discuss the possibility of an indie and who the indie might be

As for my comment about the banter, the post was formatted and clearly have a bantery feel to it. That's what I was referring to. I don't like that tone since it's used to soften it. As for the vote itself, it can be serious sure but the reasoning given is extremely cheap and feels dishonest since it doesn't reflect reality at all. It's like "hurr durr he spoke about the setup, he's using mechanical talk to fake contribution". That's bullshit fam lol.
I guess we have different meaning of banter lol
But yes i always use softer tone unless i am pissed off.

Is it dishonest now that i explained why discussing player number isn't a good thing in my books
 

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Indeed it serves a purpose to discuss set up but discussing number of mafia to town ration is ??? to discuss because in games this size the number is usually known.

What instad you could discuss is how this game has a JoJo name meaning a jojo reference and how this game could have roles based on JoJo part 4 - that makes way more sense to discuss that town vs mafia ratio
The post doesn't simply have a take of Town and Mafia numbers, and no it isn't always known. It's a starting point acting as a reference. That's subjective, you talk about whatever you'd like to talk about. And I'll make the remark I deem worthy.
Because it is basic doesn't mean it is wrong. Going by logic here discussing set up the way you did brings nothing to table other than appearing to be pushing game forward even if it isn't really pushing
I mean it is wrong in this case since I'm Town. It's also wrong in your line of reasoning because it doesn't reflect reality, and it's fake since you're basically looking at one posts in isolation that you find in your own opinion not bring anything to the table and then applying it as if it's a reflection of my play.
And yet despite your best efforts to not do it you did it
What does even mean?
And once again - rather than discussing a possibility of an indie it would be better to discuss who the indie might be cause at the same time you discuss the possibility of an indie and who the indie might be
Where would we start discussing "who the indie might be"? If you find something "better" than do it yourself. This has no basis whatsoever since it's an info that I'm sharing from my experience with Drago the host, him liking indies so to watch out for that. And again, this wasn't a discussion as in interacting with people about it, it was me sharing my own thoughts since I know Drago very well.

The comparison is asinine lol. You're setting up a standard of what would be "better" that doesn't exist just to find a way to criticize that line.
Is it dishonest now that i explained why discussing player number isn't a good thing in my books
It absolutely is dishonest. Your book doesn't matter 'cause it falls flat if you actually read any other posts. It makes me feel like you're not trying to figure me out and it basically comes down to "hurr durr he talked about setup, he bad". A very cheap way for scum to get a read going and navigate the game through it by milking it.
 

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Btw guys, it would be helpful for those who were Members of Oro Jackson to mention their Old Name if they changed it here
I'm having doubts about whether i'm playing with New Players or Old ones who changed their Names
Names you don't recognize weren't OJ members.
 
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Hmm the rainbow looks something like this for now :pepethinking:

Larsi
Naomi
Salah
Waindo

Juliet
DDL
Samael


Gambit
AH

Michelle
Kibi


Jinri
Rej
Beky


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God_Ussopun
Mat D Bizzo
Emperor Cross
Alice
Town leader Rej...:pepelaugh:
 
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Did you by any chance vote me because you knew it was midnight at my place and hoped I don't come back before the day phase ends so that way you don't have to worry about getting a response back from me? I recently woke up.
It was Saturday. No time for beauty sleep in mafia.

But now I didn’t know it was midnight where you were. I’m on the Estern time zone.
 
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