[FIN] Traditional Mafia Round 4 - Crazy Noisy Bizarre Town

[Dragomir]

Why wasn't this made public as a rule earlier?

 

[Naomi]

novaselinenever reading as town leader
Rej town for now Since he play looks scum even when town.
Gambit did you hint third...?? or just lazy town.
Juliet town reading her
Afh town reading him.

rest neutral on.

 

[Dragomir]

Ok, at first I was going to go with RNG, which I don't usually announce, but instead tell you at the end but I just changed my mind about it when Salah asked his question.

 

[novaselinenever]

Ok, at first I was going to go with RNG, which I don't usually announce, but instead tell you at the end but I just changed my mind about it when Salah asked his question.

Fair enough.

 

[Salah Eddine]

No lynch in the event of a tie.

@Kibi i always assumed it will be No Lynch so i was fine with it
Why do you want to Lynch Rej ?
The problem isn't that it's D1 Lynch, the problem is that you choose Rej not because you really want him out but because you felt need to just Lynch anyone (Which is supported by how your Post followed Novas answer to your question about Top Sus to suggest a Lynch)

I have a feeling you're not Town and not Mafia either, i think you're 3rd by the way you want to Lynch and the way you implied that you don't care who gets Lynched

 

[novaselinenever]

@Kibi i always assumed it will be No Lynch so i was fine with it

Lol how did you assume that? It's so rare, we always get an RNG lynch.

I have a feeling you're not Town and not Mafia either, i think you're 3rd by the way you want to Lynch and the way you implied that you don't care who gets Lynched

Hmm interesting thought. He's on my neutral pile but the very bottom of it. Why do you think it's Indie indicative specifically? I'm thinking some Mafia can give off that same vibe, I usually get scum reads and catch some like that towards EoD. When you see that they don't care about the end result lol.

 

[Samael]

@novaselinenever
So yeah that DDL and Salah interaction looking at it now it’s almost nice to see im not tripping, not sure where he’s from or if that’s a normal style for him but he comes off weird. I find myself not believing what bro tries to push off and stuff like that. But yeah Town feeling from DDL, I like his points and how he prodded at salary.
Not a read because it can be a lesser of two evils situation as of right now

that’s what I have from what I haven’t already said.
now @Hayumi please explain those town reads.

 

[Kibi]

You're the first one who proposed a Lynch right now, like we are obliged to choose someone and you prefer Rej
In case of Tie, it's No Lynch or Random Lynch ?

Nah.. literally asked who's the most suspected... Not who you would lynch now...
Me saying i'd rather vote Rej means I find Rej scummier of the two

Why wouldn't it be enough? I'll only answer from my perspective with my reads. They're impeccable lol. Also don't think there was quite a consensus other person suspected like Rej with several people suspecting him. Think Rej suspected Beky early on. Then there is AFH from DDL and maybe few others.

Rej is an alright choice. Interesting

Well fair enough... I was thinking along the lines of a general consensus. But seems there is no general consensus aside Rej.

 

[Hayumi]

@novaselinenever
So yeah that DDL and Salah interaction looking at it now it’s almost nice to see im not tripping, not sure where he’s from or if that’s a normal style for him but he comes off weird. I find myself not believing what bro tries to push off and stuff like that. But yeah Town feeling from DDL, I like his points and how he prodded at salary.
Not a read because it can be a lesser of two evils situation as of right now

that’s what I have from what I haven’t already said.
now @Hayumi please explain those town reads.

I already stated I barely read up and had time to give legit reads. I just think you guys are town because the tone of your posts. I'm just getting the strongest town vibes from you two. I get the sense of townies trying to lead the convo to sniff out scum from you and nova. But that's all I really have right now. I could be totally wrong

 

[Salah Eddine]

Lol how did you assume that? It's so rare, we always get an RNG lynch.

100% Honesty, even though i played tons of Games, i swear i never ever read the Rules or remembered any
I assumed it's No Lynch because that's what i would do tbh, especially D1 at least

Hmm interesting thought. He's on my neutral pile but the very bottom of it. Why do you think it's Indie indicative specifically? I'm thinking some Mafia can give off that same vibe, I usually get scum reads and catch some like that towards EoD. When you see that they don't care about the end result lol.

I suspect he is 3rd for two reasons, first one is because he didn't seem to care who gets Lynched, not when he picked Rej but when he asked you about Top Sus, it's clear that he always intended to reply like that after you Answer his Question which shows that he didn't care what you Answer either

Second reason is because no one else really suggested a Lynch as if it really must happen, i actually noticed his Post because i myself completely forgot about Votes & Lynch until i asked Drago for Count so when i see him suggesting something like that, it bothered me a little.
And i doubt a Mafia would do that when his Buddies didn't bother with the Lynch most of DP

That's why i lean toward him being 3rd

 

[Kibi]

@Kibi i always assumed it will be No Lynch so i was fine with it
Why do you want to Lynch Rej ?
The problem isn't that it's D1 Lynch, the problem is that you choose Rej not because you really want him out but because you felt need to just Lynch anyone (Which is supported by how your Post followed Novas answer to your question about Top Sus to suggest a Lynch)

I have a feeling you're not Town and not Mafia either, i think you're 3rd by the way you want to Lynch and the way you implied that you don't care who gets Lynched

Oh Forgive me if I haven't explicitly stated it earlier, I have a problem with Rej's opening post and him later saying he'd be more half ass as mafia as his defense... Didn't just choose him as a suspect after Nova's reply..

But if I were a third, what kind of 3rd will I be though trying to push for any lynch D1, it doesn't make sense to me considering town will always want a lynch D1 for info... So why will a third do so when from that point of view things are going fine

 

[Salah Eddine]

Oh Forgive me if I haven't explicitly stated it earlier, I have a problem with Rej's opening post and him later saying he'd be more half ass as mafia as his defense... Didn't just choose him as a suspect after Nova's reply..

But if I were a third, what kind of 3rd will I be though trying to push for any lynch D1, it doesn't make sense to me considering town will always want a lynch D1 for info... So why will a third do so when from that point of view things are going fine

I never said you pushed for a Lynch, actually pushing for a Lynch is perfectly fine
The problem is your post revealed & implied that you believe there must be a Lynch this DP
So it's more like a slip, a post that hides behind it a thought of a Scum

Anyway, it's my opinion and i mentioned it so that others can try to read your posts with assumption that you're 3rd to see if they notice something or not

 

[Rej]

ah here we go again, the popular discussion wether Rej is a good lynch D1 or not

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I trust Salah's case on Kibi
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Rej town for now Since he play looks scum even when town.
Juliet town reading her
Afh town reading him.

can you elaborate on those reads?

 

[Beky]

The post doesn't simply have a take of Town and Mafia numbers, and no it isn't always known. It's a starting point acting as a reference. That's subjective, you talk about whatever you'd like to talk about. And I'll make the remark I deem worthy.

I mean it is wrong in this case since I'm Town. It's also wrong in your line of reasoning because it doesn't reflect reality, and it's fake since you're basically looking at one posts in isolation that you find in your own opinion not bring anything to the table and then applying it as if it's a reflection of my play.

What does even mean?

Where would we start discussing "who the indie might be"? If you find something "better" than do it yourself. This has no basis whatsoever since it's an info that I'm sharing from my experience with Drago the host, him liking indies so to watch out for that. And again, this wasn't a discussion as in interacting with people about it, it was me sharing my own thoughts since I know Drago very well.

The comparison is asinine lol. You're setting up a standard of what would be "better" that doesn't exist just to find a way to criticize that line.

It absolutely is dishonest. Your book doesn't matter 'cause it falls flat if you actually read any other posts. It makes me feel like you're not trying to figure me out and it basically comes down to "hurr durr he talked about setup, he bad". A very cheap way for scum to get a read going and navigate the game through it by milking it.

I was writing a big answer but my PC froze and draft wasn't saved

I'll just TLR it, I aint milking this nor am i starting a lynch train on you. I'm type of player takes a bit at something and doesn't drop it until proven wrong. What you said smells bad to me, and i don't like it, and i'll keep pressuring you on that - yes a tunnel -

And until i get an answer that says otherwise i'll keep it like that. But as it stands i am not letting go.

 

[Juliet]

Well I haven't really had time to follow the game hence I asked the question so i have somewhere to start

It's always best to read the game instead of asking players who are suspicious so that way you can get your own reads on players. You said you didn't have time to follow the game and when you asked who were suspicious was this so that you can individually iso the players who have been mentioned by other players?

I have pretty much everyone on neutral. I’m am slightly suspicious of people trying to lead town as it’s a common scum tactic to get Town cred.

By suspicious of people trying to lead town do you mean active players?

 

[Naomi]

ah here we go again, the popular discussion wether Rej is a good lynch D1 or not

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I trust Salah's case on Kibi
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can you elaborate on those reads?

Your probably scum, trying to play town leader.

 

[novaselinenever]

100% Honesty, even though i played tons of Games, i swear i never ever read the Rules or remembered any
I assumed it's No Lynch because that's what i would do tbh, especially D1 at least

Lol I believe you. Kudos I guess, it's always RNG and also never like a rule written just consensus thought.

I suspect he is 3rd for two reasons, first one is because he didn't seem to care who gets Lynched, not when he picked Rej but when he asked you about Top Sus, it's clear that he always intended to reply like that after you Answer his Question which shows that he didn't care what you Answer either

Second reason is because no one else really suggested a Lynch as if it really must happen, i actually noticed his Post because i myself completely forgot about Votes & Lynch until i asked Drago for Count so when i see him suggesting something like that, it bothered me a little.
And i doubt a Mafia would do that when his Buddies didn't bother with the Lynch most of DP

That's why i lean toward him being 3rd

Hmmm fair enough. I've got other thoughts about that post, and it's linked with some of my other reads. There was the whole progression where I didn't like his initial lack of thoughts when he's been around and has had discussion. It also didn't last.

 

[novaselinenever]

ah here we go again, the popular discussion wether Rej is a good lynch D1 or not

Appeal to history. Here's another yikes.

I trust Salah's case on Kibi

What are your own thoughts about him?

 

[Rej]

Your probably scum, trying to play town leader.

Where do I try to lead someone? I am after my own PoE lol

Appeal to history. Here's another yikes.

What are your own thoughts about him?

He isn't trying to scumhunt, he is quite random. His questions like "Who are the top 2 scum this DP" are totally lost. Random agression towards me because it is easy. I see him fitting as Indie/Wolf.

 

[Salah Eddine]

Hmmm fair enough. I've got other thoughts about that post, and it's linked with some of my other reads. There was the whole progression where I didn't like his initial lack of thoughts when he's been around and has had discussion. It also didn't last.

I didn't like how he backed down from accusing me
I do agree with what he said when he admitted his mistake, but he backed out too easily, i felt like he was trying to be too careful

I also suspect Jiniri but u already said everything, he is your case