[FIN] Traditional Mafia Round 4 - Crazy Noisy Bizarre Town

[Juliet]

What do you have there?

I guess that'd be a close enough description. It's when you're not interacting directly with the game but rather bouncing off of people's thoughts and posts without actually adding anything to the conversation. It's a cheap way of appearing as contributing 'cause you're putting your name out there interacting with people and entertaining their thoughts while not doing anything to solve the game. Your post to Kibi is prime example of this. It makes me feel uneasy with your presence which materialize into suspicions.

Talk to me about anyone.

I only have a few town lean on players which are Naomi, Larsi, you, and Michelle. Some of the players are not even posting much which is really hard for me to get a read on them. I noticed you are the type of player who scum hunts by tone and my scum hunting is different from yours since I'm not able to scum hunt by looking at a players tone. I normally scum read players who make weird votes and not that many players voted on day 1. Emperor is a good example I couldn't get a read on since he hardly posted and on your rainbow list you put him on town. Can you walk me through your town read on Emperor?

 

[Mat D. Bizzo]

Wazzup. Been maafacking busy, only got on yesterday. But here I am now.

 

[Juliet]

Vote Lynch A Famous Historian

He voted with no reasoning and just left it there at the end of day 1. I never like it when someone just leaves their vote at the end of day 1 with no reasoning ant it looks scummy.

 

[Mat D. Bizzo]

Vote Lynch A Famous Historian

He voted with no reasoning and just left it there at the end of day 1. I never like it when someone just leaves their vote at the end of day 1 with no reasoning ant it looks scummy.

was he Pressure voting? or Baiting? schemed through the d.p but maybe he was also distracting. Before he voted was there something worth throwing people's attention off?

 

[Dragomir]

The Casino has been open! To access it, say it in your role PM.

 

[Rej]

Lol pre-emptive vote 'cause you know I'm coming for your ass?

Why do you think the first is more likely SK over Mafia?

Thought he was scum for sure, it was a disappointing result. It happens though, I'll bounce back

What does this mean?

I am comming for your ass nibba.
If I get lynched I will claim in the last moment and this will kill you deep within.

What it does mean? You aint town.
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Rej-vanished after putting the vote, no more reads??
Wai- scum vibes
God Usopp--has he even posted??... well see if he shows up later before days ends.
Kibi--scum?
Gambit--third party?? /town or scum.

Sleep plus work is hard life. But my vote on novas is kinda locked.
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I am ready to lynch either novas or AFH. I need to broaden my scumpool.

was he Pressure voting? or Baiting? schemed through the d.p but maybe he was also distracting. Before he voted was there something worth throwing people's attention off?

You can pretty much read the first page or first 2 pages and find something for yourself.

 

[Waindo]

Rej-vanished after putting the vote, no more reads??
Wai- scum vibes
God Usopp--has he even posted??... well see if he shows up later before days ends.
Kibi--scum?
Gambit--third party?? /town or scum.

Lol? Elaborate that scum vibes on me?
You tend to be scum when throwing weird shades like this.
Anyways, you guys were posting from 1-5 AM while I was sucking my thumb dreaming about being a famous League streamer.

I'll sit back and read for now, we have a few interesting metas whom turn out to be scum when presenting this sort of town-leading, 'scumhunting' front, will leave them unnamed for now and let them bury themselves first.

 

[Hayumi]

Also lol, why did you feel the need to mention not wanting to defend her?

Because if they end up flipping scum I don't want to be defending them lol
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This gives me the impression of you trying to do just that though. Your tone comes off as innocent as well but we’ve played before, you know how to play and I wouldn’t be surprised if this was a nice little soft defense.

who knows? Not all angels come from the sky, some come from below.

Well I didn't mean for it to come across sus in any way. That's all I can say to that so sorry!
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I feel like I the need to look at the post from all possible angles like all townies should and didnt want to off the chance of them being genuinely confused and innocent. I'm honestly not nearly as experienced as most of you so it was probably more obviously scummy than I think

 

[Mat D. Bizzo]

You can pretty much read the first page or first 2 pages and find something for yourself.

Because if they end up flipping scum I don't want to be defending them lol
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Well I didn't mean for it to come across sus in any way. That's all I can say to that so sorry!
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They are coming from the point of view that if you are town, there is no need to start off by defending your self if you have nothing to lose. When scum-hunting, rightfully so, there is no need to fear backlash, i mean if you are a townie, there is no need to go the extra mile of... "Left me first cover my tracks".... You can always reason it out when people come at you..no need to add the red-herring, more so, dead right as a statement opener.
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Also will be predisposed for a while there...

 

[novaselinenever]

I only have a few town lean on players which are Naomi, Larsi, you, and Michelle. Some of the players are not even posting much which is really hard for me to get a read on them. I noticed you are the type of player who scum hunts by tone and my scum hunting is different from yours since I'm not able to scum hunt by looking at a players tone. I normally scum read players who make weird votes and not that many players voted on day 1. Emperor is a good example I couldn't get a read on since he hardly posted and on your rainbow list you put him on town. Can you walk me through your town read on Emperor?

While not many people vote, the majority of them posted and shared a few of their thoughts. Nothing stood out to you at all?

It's mostly my first impression of him. I think his care-free attitude is town indicative rather than a baddie trying to coast. He reminds me of a bit of the Deities game in his tone and activity. It's not much and these tonal reads usually fluctuate a tone with more info but the name of the game is trying to figure out people with whatever there is.

Huh, talk to me about the Michelle's town read?

 

[novaselinenever]

Wazzup. Been maafacking busy, only got on yesterday. But here I am now.

We got a guilty results, already 7 votes. You really are scum ain't you?

 

[novaselinenever]

I am comming for your ass nibba.
If I get lynched I will claim in the last moment and this will kill you deep within.

Lol keep dreaming scum.

What it does mean? You aint town.

I am though, and the question is crystal fucking clear. You're rambling on about the Beky vote as if the results is a prove of me not being Town. Do you accept me to be right at all times? Also why the fuck did you follow me there if you're just going to cry about it and especially since you allegedly already suspected me?

 

[novaselinenever]

I got an exam in a few hours so I'll be out for a while. Will be back before EoD. Get some stuff going on in the meantime por favor, me I'm looking at a Rej and Michelle's lynch, Juliet's town read on the latter and apparently agreeing with her on AFH is making me trend there lmao

AFH's suspicions is based on a lot of flimsy reasons and there don't seem to be any strong stances against him. Which makes me think it's not pure, and the people suspecting him aren't genuine in those suspicions and don't actually want to figure him out. It's weird. Feels like the easiest scum read to have with his presence this game, a low hanging fruit.

[Vote Lynch Michelle]

 

[Samael]

Vote Lynch A Famous Historian

He voted with no reasoning and just left it there at the end of day 1. I never like it when someone just leaves their vote at the end of day 1 with no reasoning ant it looks scummy.

Did you look at his previous post before voting or do you just go based off votes?? There’s many that didn’t vote including myself do you see me as scummy because of that?

what would your read be on me?

out of everyone you could’ve voted Famous historian? I’m not knocking it fully but I’m knocking it a bit because of your reasoning.
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Rej-vanished after putting the vote, no more reads??
Wai- scum vibes
God Usopp--has he even posted??... well see if he shows up later before days ends.
Kibi--scum?
Gambit--third party?? /town or scum.

When he town, he usually more active. though sometime he busy. But i'm getting impression scum.


God Usopp on the other hand...well

You seem to keep throwing attention towards a player that isn’t posting which is a bad look imo. The game gains no progress from it and throwing sus on someone who probably isn’t even active as a whole is just a scummy move.

vote lynch Naomi

I don’t trust you nor do i seem to be fond of you. You played dumb on the most basic question earlier when I asked things you took from day1, you’re liking many post meaning that you are actively watching the game. But there’s not much post from you regarding the things that you seem to “like” then the repeatedly pointing out a inactive poster is just bad. Nice way for scum to have a free read and throw suspicion on a defenseless townie possibly.

 

[Kibi]

Vote Lynch A Famous Historian

He voted with no reasoning and just left it there at the end of day 1. I never like it when someone just leaves their vote at the end of day 1 with no reasoning ant it looks scummy.

Oh Cmon Jules AFH has always been like that... You expect me to believe you want to lynch him because you find that sus? It's not even like the dropped vote was paid any meaningful attention

The Casino has been open! To access it, say it in your role PM.

Hospital, Casino... Ooo seems we got events

I am comming for your ass nibba.
If I get lynched I will claim in the last moment and this will kill you deep within.

Said every scum ever

Kibi, AFH and novas, some other persons are giving me weird vibes like Beky and Waindo but I can't properly explain what's those weird vibes. Both are playing differently and their general stance to mafia changed. While Wai is more distancing himself from the game and just taking a backseat I feel like Beky is trying to give more input than usual. This are just gut reads with what I have observed. But some time passed since the last trad games and each new trad here feels different. It is easier for me to read novas and DDL since I played with them more frequently recently.

This is one of your posts from D1
First in your opening post D1 you made a comment about Beky trying too much.. you never questioned Beky or confronted him thereafter rather you faced other players... Now this particular post was made less than an hour to day's end...
You couldn't ride Salah's case on be being 3rd to get me lynched
Neither could you force the AFH lynch as he wasn't present
There was no way you could try to prove Novas is scum.

So you piggyback on Novas suspicions to save your ass from lynch. Nova inviting you to vote with him was the perfect opportunity.

Now get this, you were willing to vote someone who you felt was trying a bit too much rather than me who you agreed was giving off an indie vibe and didn't care who got lynched. You just wanted to get the lynch train off your back

Now you come in this Dp challenging Novas because you realize it's the only way to save face for your scummy maneuver last Dp..

To top everything off "Beky seems to be trying too much" was your only original scum read of last dp. The rest you hopped on. The vig should have shot you. Now to finish this long-ass post

Vote lynch Rej

 

[A famous historian]

Vote Lynch A Famous Historian

He voted with no reasoning and just left it there at the end of day 1. I never like it when someone just leaves their vote at the end of day 1 with no reasoning ant it looks scummy.

I already explained that Day 1 votes are usually baseless. Pretty sure I’m note the only one who voted Day 1 without a solid case.

The fact that you want to revisit that episode leads me no choice,

Vote lynch Juliet
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hi guys
Vote lynch a famous historian
@Dragomir

Morning everyone! Nice way to start a Sunday ^^

Nova talking about setup noted.
The +1 townie can't be a +1 indie?



vote lynch Alice The Menace

Two others who voted for someone without providing an explanation.

See Juliet. I ain’t that unique.

 

[Rej]

Lol keep dreaming scum.

I am though, and the question is crystal fucking clear. You're rambling on about the Beky vote as if the results is a prove of me not being Town. Do you accept me to be right at all times? Also why the fuck did you follow me there if you're just going to cry about it and especially since you allegedly already suspected me?

why you always so sure when you make cases like these?
I have much more in store for my scum novas verse. You are eliminating threats to you, not threats to town bruh.

Okay let's do it, I claim a one-shot vigilante and I used it on novas last night.

@Doctor you probably protected a scum last night and we might not find out

novas lucky again

I won't interact with novas until he properly tries to read me, with backing stuff up and seeing black and white not just black, because that's what novas is doing.

MY VOTE WILL REMAIN ON NOVAS until the game is basically over or novas submits
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Oh Cmon Jules AFH has always been like that... You expect me to believe you want to lynch him because you find that sus? It's not even like the dropped vote was paid any meaningful attention

Hospital, Casino... Ooo seems we got events

Said every scum ever

This is one of your posts from D1
First in your opening post D1 you made a comment about Beky trying too much.. you never questioned Beky or confronted him thereafter rather you faced other players... Now this particular post was made less than an hour to day's end...
You couldn't ride Salah's case on be being 3rd to get me lynched
Neither could you force the AFH lynch as he wasn't present
There was no way you could try to prove Novas is scum.

So you piggyback on Novas suspicions to save your ass from lynch. Nova inviting you to vote with him was the perfect opportunity.

Now get this, you were willing to vote someone who you felt was trying a bit too much rather than me who you agreed was giving off an indie vibe and didn't care who got lynched. You just wanted to get the lynch train off your back

Now you come in this Dp challenging Novas because you realize it's the only way to save face for your scummy maneuver last Dp..

To top everything off "Beky seems to be trying too much" was your only original scum read of last dp. The rest you hopped on. The vig should have shot you. Now to finish this long-ass post

Vote lynch Rej

@novaselinenever look your scum brother is bullshitting against me for you

both Kibi and novas are scum, novas never pushes himself when a scum mate is pushing for novas
scum novas throws wrong PoE out there so his scum mates can work with it, so he can manipulate town into a false believe

 

[Samael]

@Rej @Kibi

strongest town read and strongest scum please

 

[novaselinenever]

why you always so sure when you make cases like these?
I have much more in store for my scum novas verse. You are eliminating threats to you, not threats to town bruh.

Why wouldn't I be sure when making any case? I'm confident in myself and I don't care about outside noises, if I'm wrong so be it.

Lmao whatever makes you sleep at night bud. Feel free to engage on my actual thoughts and cases anytime.

Okay let's do it, I claim a one-shot vigilante and I used it on novas last night.

LOL

@Doctor you probably protected a scum last night and we might not find out

novas lucky again

How do you know I was protected? I mean if you're a one-shot Vigi and town from your point of view I could be a bulletproof scum no? This reeks of information.

I won't interact with novas until he properly tries to read me, with backing stuff up and seeing black and white not just black, because that's what novas is doing.

MY VOTE WILL REMAIN ON NOVAS until the game is basically over or novas submits

I've already cased you and shared my thoughts. You're refusing to interact with me on them because you have absolutely nothing in your defense and instead deflecting with this fear-mongering.

Appeal to history. Here's another yikes.

What are your own thoughts about him?

Why do you suspect AFH and Novas? And how come Beky went from a suspicion early on and now it's "giving me weird vibes" when it's the time that matter.

I've been trying to figure you out and landed you as scum. You're not making much sense, I mean just look at your suspicions. You pulled AFH and me out of your ass, there was no progression and it doesn't feel real. Civ Rej has progressions in his reads, and he handles me differently. You usually have a certain paranoia when doing it, and it's absent here. It feels forced.

@novaselinenever look your scum brother is bullshitting against me for you

both Kibi and novas are scum, novas never pushes himself when a scum mate is pushing for novas
scum novas throws wrong PoE out there so his scum mates can work with it, so he can manipulate town into a false believe

Lmao you're absolutely fucking delusional. I mean am I pushing you or am I not? Your whole case is based on me scum reading you, but now that someone else also suspects me it just happens to be because of me and we're scum together lol. Also funnily enough it's actually someone that I suspects.

What false believe am I manipulating town into and how am I doing that? These are just big words to fear monger. You're not actually going through my thoughts and posts to see if I'm genuine or not which is what a civ would too, you're scrambling and throwing fingers like a deer in headlights and just want to undermine me. I have your number when civ and you're handling of me is usually genuine in how you're paranoid, here it doesn't make any sense at all. Just trying to save face.

 

[novaselinenever]

Also lol I really really doubt the presence of a 1-shot Vig in this game. Doesn't help that your first thought was me being protected and trying to make an appeal as if I'm fooling someone when a bulletproof scum should be an option from your PoV.