[FIN] Traditional Mafia The Gang Plays Mafia [Mafia Championship Practice]

[Stray Cat]

Yeah, but that couldn't be helped with all these going back and forth arguments. Needless to say, most of the suspect right now is based on PoE, Reactions, emotions etc but not with actual reasonings.

Also, I wouldn't call a player low hanging fruit if everyone thinks the same way because this means they win the trust of town one way or another and no one gonna attempt to lynch them. Saying this x player is low hanging fruit is nothing but contradicting others read

True that.

Just think that Beky, Michelle, Oko, Wai and you are Town. Leaves Rej, Samael, Shottie and Drago for PoE. Drago doesn't fit since he was pushed by all three of them this DP, so only Shottie, Rej and Samael left.

 

[Oreki]

True that.

Just think that Beky, Michelle, Oko, Wai and you are Town. Leaves Rej, Samael, Shottie and Drago for PoE. Drago doesn't fit since he was pushed by all three of them this DP, so only Shottie, Rej and Samael left.

I am not sure how to go about it. But Shottie and Drago can't be teammates. Drago thinks Shottie is a town without even batting an eyelid. Then again, anything that he believes would elicit such a reaction. That's right. If Drago is scum then he's manipulating her to do his biding and the only way to do this is to trust what shottie says or support her. Or either way, he's reading her too well. I don't like to believe in the latter

If Rej did indeed flip scum then I think these are possible or not possible remaining left scums

Wai and Samael? Not possible
Drago and Samael? Possible
Shottie and Drago? Not possible
Wai and Drago? Possible
Samael and Shottie? Possible

 

[Stray Cat]

I am not sure how to go about it. But Shottie and Drago can't be teammates. Drago thinks Shottie is a town without even batting an eyelid. Then again, anything that he believes would elicit such a reaction. That's right. If Drago is scum then he's manipulating her to do his biding and the only way to do this is to trust what shottie says or support her. Or either way, he's reading her too well. I don't like to believe in the latter

If Rej did indeed flip scum then I think these are possible or not possible remaining left scums

Wai and Samael? Not possible
Drago and Samael? Possible
Shottie and Drago? Not possible
Wai and Drago? Possible
Samael and Shottie? Possible

Well, Samael deflected to Drago when questioned. Deflecting ain't a good look.

Rej implied Drago doesn't progress his reads. We have seen this with Michelle and how he dropped his suspicion on her and Beky without a second thought.

Then Shottie's guidance and assignment she gave Drago which Beky said felt off. And lowkey like mockery. Also Samael and Shottie had basically the same explanation for the assignment, both under the assumption I wasn't attacked and wrongly cleared. And that there is a third JOAT.


This just feels off.

 

[Samael]

Ok, but I didn't. The only person who said that I was playing on my scum meta was Ona. Everyone else was saying I was playing on my town meta. It was the reason why Stray Cat was even town reading me D1.

I said your meta came into discussion. Did it not?

Scum Drago: Comes into a game all strong and active and pushy, then takes a backseat.

Town Drago: Has comprehensive reads, more laid back and inquisitive play style, also more chill in general

Stray answering nessos concerning your meta(when it was first brought up).

would you say that this game is his textbook scum game then?

Ona basically saying that this has to be a game where you’re scum due to you playing on that meta.

@Onadaga you say that I was playing my scum meta at the start but I'm not anymore right? How do you feel about that? You scum read me for playing my scum meta at the start of the game but now that I'm not playing that meta anymore, does it still make sense to scum read me? You have an argument against me but there's also one that supports me. These two arguments cancel out, meaning your scum read should be non-existent.

you responding to Ona. With faulty sht, why would you have stayed on your scum meta? People seemed to not care anyway when you changed your play.
You’d be lying if you said you didn’t come out aggressively and I’m almost everyone’s interactions.

what ARE you even SAYING bro

stray CAT said your scum META is to be AGGRO at start and then FIZZLE out

thats what YOU have been DOING

i dont need to convince YOU that YOU are SCUM that makes no SENSE

Onas response.

Page 14 ! This lineup is quite interesting....

Above reactions were for this one post of Samael !!

Was it worth 2 votes on him..
So tell me...
Do you buy Ted / Stray / Drago reasoning...
Or which one do you think was genuine ? And Who's post was wolfy ? Or they all sound townish

Here’s his backing logic... bs logic by two of our most best and stubborn town players, law caught onto it. He’s had no firm stance of his own, seen multiple time piggy backing the most town read posters. Rej called him out for piggying stray and stray has a habit of letting up on those who see things her way.

also look at the post onas more specifically and those before that, shottie has a post earlier concerning Drago. Just because you all choose to not listen or pay us any mind it doesn’t mean effort isn’t being out in.

Drago was sussed by law or you can say looked at in a suspicious law only for drsgo
To try and flip the lynch from waindo to him. Drago was sussed by Ona who later went on to die, he’s seen piggying logic/ a lynch on me that had two of I suppose “towns” most vocal going with it. So much more as well.

 

[Stray Cat]

Why is this guy always coming out when talked about and suspected ?

 

[Oreki]

Well, Samael deflected to Drago when questioned. Deflecting ain't a good look.

Rej implied Drago doesn't progress his reads. We have seen this with Michelle and how he dropped his suspicion on her and Beky without a second thought.

Then Shottie's guidance and assignment she gave Drago which Beky said felt off. And lowkey like mockery. Also Samael and Shottie had basically the same explanation for the assignment, both under the assumption I wasn't attacked and wrongly cleared. And that there is a third JOAT.


This just feels off.

To be frank, I didn't pay much attention to the game after half of second DP and just ISO'ed Rej who I think is the most possible scum. And for now, I would not like to take any more confusions

But you know Shottie frustration starting to feel unreal to me and then Drago being in my sus list contradict the former for me. So, for now, i just hope Rej flip scum

If he flip scum and I died, then you may as well ISO samael, Wai, and Drago properly since you have already your opinion on Shottie

 

[Stray Cat]

To be frank, I didn't pay much attention to the game after half of second DP and just ISO'ed Rej who I think is the most possible scum. And for now, I would not like to take any more confusions

But you know Shottie frustration starting to feel unreal to me and then Drago being in my sus list contradict the former for me. So, for now, i just hope Rej flip scum

If he flip scum and I died, then you may as well ISO samael, Wai, and Drago properly since you have already your opinion on Shottie

For me the scum is either Rej or Drago. Neither is here to make a defense, though.

 

[Samael]

He basically just met the post requirement this DP .
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Same goes for Samael .

i don’t give a fuck anymore to be honest with you. I would’ve subbed or just outright Disappeared if nova wasn’t hosting this game, to much respect for him. But yeah we lost.

You’ll be the biggest reason, everyone’s been scum or has had shade thrown numerous times on them by you... only you.. it’s no point in even playing. You got little sheep ass players behind your every move and then you and your logic...

If stray doesn’t agree with it it’s scum.
If you piggy stray and her thoughts, she might fall you out for it yeah.. but because it’s her way she’ll let you slide.
If stray wouldn’t do it that way it’s scum...

“give reads”

*reads are given*

“oh no you don’t see that player as me you must be scum”

I don’t give a fuck enough about a game we’re just arguing in to keep putting up with this shit.Your just a more calmer waindo that makes sense at times.

Well, Samael deflected to Drago when questioned. Deflecting ain't a good look.

Dick in peeps mouth. Shade...

Why is this guy always coming out when talked about and suspected ?

After I drop a post that tells you sht about dragos possible connections, yes I responded to sus on me but fuck it let’s see there and let people just sus and vote me. Shade again

can never win.
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I don’t even care for the shade what I hate is liars. “He’s scummy because he isn’t active” wtf?
“He only comes out too” stfu I’ve made points, discussed them, pushed etc.. it’s up to YOU TO READ SND CARE SO JUST BECAUSE YOU DONT GIVE AF IT DOESNT MEAN IM NOT DOING IT
Vote lynch Samael

there ya go. Be happy mf. Leave me tf alone, don’t quote or @ I’ll come play when i see fit. I’m going to work soon and don’t wanna be bothered with ignorance and bs.

 

[Oreki]

i don’t give a fuck anymore to be honest with you. I would’ve subbed or just outright Disappeared if nova wasn’t hosting this game, to much respect for him. But yeah we lost.

With all due respect, I don't think that's being respectful towards the host at all... if you actually respect him you wouldn't just go and give up like this just because you're annoyed by some players even if I am one of them... you're just taking out your frustration in the game of the guy you respect?

You're just running away or trying to be evasive, but a realistic way to handle the situation; you're just being too much.

 

[Stray Cat]

You do realize there are more players in the game, right? Everyone comes to conclusions on their own. Also, nobody is sheeping me here, the only time people did was the Gambit lynch which was caused by him game throwing. Every other lynch was caused by different players. Juliet by Oreki and Law by Ted.

I was not throwing shades at anyone. I present cases on players. If people follow them that's their own decision.

 

[AL.]

@Hayumi subbed in for @Shottie ​

 

[Hayumi]

Oop, hey everyone, I'm here to honestly confirm that Shottie was in fact telling the truth. She wasn't scum. Anyways, I kind of came in at an odd time, but I've been sort of keeping up with the game since it started (although I missed a hefty part of it mid game) but anyways, I'm down for a Samael or Beky lynch. Despite Drago not giving any reasoning, I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt despite him saying he knows I'm not scum, kicking off SOME alarms, only because he isn't explaining himself, the fact that he's adamant about that makes me like hmmm, he isn't off my radar yet, but he isn't priority for me... I agree with most of the other main suspects, however, and Samael isn't coming across to me like a townie that concerned of getting mislynched so that's who I'm currently focused the most on, as well as Beky for a super neutral playstyle compared to what I feel like is their norm. But I'm also down for not lynching anyone this dp to save a potential mislynch.

 

[Oreki]

Oop, hey everyone, I'm here to honestly confirm that Shottie was in fact telling the truth. She wasn't scum. Anyways, I kind of came in at an odd time, but I've been sort of keeping up with the game since it started (although I missed a hefty part of it mid game) but anyways, I'm down for a Samael or Beky lynch. Despite Drago not giving any reasoning, I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt despite him saying he knows I'm not scum, kicking off SOME alarms, only because he isn't explaining himself, the fact that he's adamant about that makes me like hmmm, he isn't off my radar yet, but he isn't priority for me... I agree with most of the other main suspects, however, and Samael isn't coming across to me like a townie that concerned of getting mislynched so that's who I'm currently focused the most on, as well as Beky for a super neutral playstyle compared to what I feel like is their norm. But I'm also down for not lynching anyone this dp to save a potential mislynch.

Not like you're gonna say "Hey everyone, I'm here to honestly confirm that shottie was in fact telling lies and I am not town"

 

[Stray Cat]

Oop, hey everyone, I'm here to honestly confirm that Shottie was in fact telling the truth. She wasn't scum. Anyways, I kind of came in at an odd time, but I've been sort of keeping up with the game since it started (although I missed a hefty part of it mid game) but anyways, I'm down for a Samael or Beky lynch. Despite Drago not giving any reasoning, I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt despite him saying he knows I'm not scum, kicking off SOME alarms, only because he isn't explaining himself, the fact that he's adamant about that makes me like hmmm, he isn't off my radar yet, but he isn't priority for me... I agree with most of the other main suspects, however, and Samael isn't coming across to me like a townie that concerned of getting mislynched so that's who I'm currently focused the most on, as well as Beky for a super neutral playstyle compared to what I feel like is their norm. But I'm also down for not lynching anyone this dp to save a potential mislynch.

Hi!

So you have caught up?

 

[Oreki]

Hayumi did you really backtrack the thread?

 

[Hayumi]

Not like you're gonna say "Hey everyone, I'm here to honestly confirm that shottie was in fact telling lies and I am not town"

True, but eitherway those are my thoughts on what we should do.

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Hayumi did you really backtrack the thread?

I've been following it since it started lmao. But I missed a good chunk of it in the middle when I was busy irl.
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Hi!

So you have caught up?

Hey! Yah, see above. I'm relatively caught up.

 

[Stray Cat]

Not like you're gonna say "Hey everyone, I'm here to honestly confirm that shottie was in fact telling lies and I am not town"

We should give Hayumi some time I guess. We can iso Hayumi next DP.

 

[Hayumi]

We should give Hayumi some time I guess. We can iso Hayumi next DP.

I'm fine with that. By the way, are you guys leaning more towards a no lynch this dp?

 

[Stray Cat]

Well, if Hayumi is scum he would bus Samael, so...

Vote lynch Samael.
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I'm fine with that. By the way, are you guys leaning more towards a no lynch this dp?

No, we should definitely lynch this DP. We still have the numbers.

 

[Oreki]

@Hayumi We're lynching Rej this DP... you can share if you have some thoughts on that