[FIN] Traditional Mafia The Gang Plays Mafia [Mafia Championship Practice]

[Beky]

No one here coming to give your fresh opinion when there is fire going on.

For now, I am going off... @Samael I will give my reasons after waking up

Says fire is going on
Goes away

wat
Like sure go to sleep but don't call out people when you yourself leave lol

 

[Samael]

Bro I don’t give a fuck. Won’t quote you because I just don’t care, keep your reasons to yourself. I simply don’t give a fuck, you play your way and I’ll play mines.

 

[Waindo]

Someone's cork went flying off here lol.

 

[Stray Cat]

How can a case, a single case cause all of this?

Like...people get all defensive over just a single post? When they think I'm scum?

Vote lynch Samael.

I've done some backreading. And found something exactly three players have in common this DP.


First Samael:


Sam here implies Ted and me are the Towniest this game. So he wants us both to work with him. He was eager to lynch Beky or Shottie. Since he likes bussing as scum Shottie could very well be his buddy.


Rej is here buddying with Ted and Shottie. And supports her view of me being scum, yet backpedalled again when I pointed that out to him.

Shottie here insinuates in a mocking way that Beky and Ted are just two Townies fighting each other. But just like me vs Gambit she does nothing to stop that. She also implies that Ted is somewhat of a Town leader. Guess what, Samael also said once that Beky vs Ted and Drago could just be three Townies with bad reads.


What all three of them have in common is that they try controlling Ted, buddy him and that they view him as somewhat of a Town leader. Thus all three players have a visible common strategy.

@Dragomir if you're Town you're hopefully seeing this.

All I did was point out three people have a common strategy this DP. And now two of the accused people have a go at me and want me gone. Why is that?

 

[Shottie]

And now two of the accused people have a go at me and want me gone. Why is that?

To be fair I started my lynch on you 3 (or was it 4?) hours into the day period. After you "stress tested" me for absolutely no reason.

 

[Waindo]

How can a case, a single case cause all of this?

Like...people get all defensive over just a single post? When they think I'm scum?


All I did was point out three people have a common strategy this DP. And now two of the accused people have a go at me and want me gone. Why is that?

Judging by all of this I'd scratch out Rej from the equation. Beky takes his place.

 

[Okosan]

I am leaning ok with you rn, I think the pressure helped you, I just can't credit all your reads and all the cases, Stray just flipflopped this DP

no just no





that is Drago for ya kappa

@Stray Cat lemme pick what I can and how it fits my time ok? I just started to get some time again

short about Sam: you used a heavy meta read/comparison here, I like it and I also would like to hear a direct answer from @Samael to this case. I am trash in buddy-buddy analysis but it would explain what Sam did in D1. I want more about ted on this case. Do you have more? (I mean I'll see when backtracking)

I am not buddying with ted, I suspect him but I try to clarify him in my own way
I dont buddy Shottie, I just like her energy and her cases, people here are always free to change my mind about someone

I don't know I somehow can't connect with @Dragomir as before, he is one of those who shows a different energy this game, somehow too careful and I am also not fully set in here, but I try to form reads whenever I can

Anyway what if Ted and you are scum?

I will drop this post and I need 2 more pages.
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Your Gambit read on D2 was refering to his D1, didn't it?
I see, are you fully active this DP?

Wai, Ted, Oreki

Who is the scummiest out of them? And what are you backup reads?

Fam I don't know anymore who is town

Coooooo! (Okosan's going to be entirely honest. He straight up doesn't have enough time for this game to stay up to date. So Okosan can already tell you what's going to happen. Mafia is going to keep Okosan around because his reads are either going to be absolute trash or so behind in thread relevance that he's an easy push. Then one day, probably not today, but at some point you guys are going to mislynch Okosan because of it.)

COOO! (Starting D4 maybe Okosan will actually be free enough to focus, but honestly it's probably a bit too late at that point so)

Coooooooo! (Well as Okosan said in his post Okosan feels that Wai and Ted are more scummy in general, but really because Okosan doesn't even remember reading anything of Oreki's. Oreki is just on there based off of vote logic and timing)

Coo!! Cooo? (Personally the order is probably something like Wai > Ted > Oreki. But with Wai and Ted only being like a point or two off)
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COOOO?? (And yeah Okosan was referring to Gambit's D1)
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Coo! COO! (Honestly if this was starting on D1 and Okosan joined he'd be a lot more here. But with such a large backlog Okosan just will not go back and figure out what's happening on his own really)

Cooo! (BUT if people have specific things that they want Okosan's take on feel free to ask him / link him to exactly what it is. Okosan will try to keep up with anything like that at least)

 

[Stray Cat]

To be fair I started my lynch on you 3 (or was it 4?) hours into the day period. After you "stress tested" me for absolutely no reason.

I had valid points against you that you have yet to disprove. And that made me do something drastic and you know that.

Again, joby was trying to convince others I'm scum. Legit everyone can see that looking at her posts that, as flattered as I am that they were mostly about my play, gave me the creeps.

You have constantly tunneled Oreki for a wrong meta and a non existent history with Juliet. You made up stuff about my scum play, too. Legit the only game I played like that was the Feng Shen Ji Reg Game with joby. To which I gotta ask you...joby told you that, no? Or shared that in the scum chat. So that's the only way you can really know.

Then the case with Gambit. You did nothing except laugh at the situation instead of helping us. You were fine with a mislynch when you could have avoided that. You are fine with Beky and Ted arguing, despite you knowing it's TvT and Beky isn't me, he would probably listen to you. This behaviour is Anti Town and I would be fine lynching you just for that.

Then the question is how do you even know that all is TvT in the first place? Your posts scream of TMI.

I have given you the reason why I don't care about Oreki and Wai...they're not on my radar. But you have yet to explain why you ignore the Rej wagon thing when he is apparently on your radar. You constantly ignore that question.

Also, Oreki and Wai are low hanging fruits rn. Pushing for them isn't a good look. You really think scum would put themselves in that much of a predicament when the Gambit lynch would have gone through without them? And the Juliet lynch, too?

There are so many points speaking against you it's not even funny anymore.


But now I'm done posting before EoD, have enough essays to write for online class.

 

[Rej]

It's hard not to ignore meta. Flower's play here is so reminiscent of her town meta that I can't ignore it. It's an exact match. This is the type of shit that a town Flower does. How can I scum read her when I know her gameplay reflects her town self? You and Sam got some nice cases on her but I can't join in on it unless Flower does something completely outrageous. She's being a blatant hypocrite and a liar. She's literally forcing herself to come up with random cases. Ones so arbitrary that I just can't see a wolf make them. I can't see a wolf do anything that Flower's doing right now.

why do you only cut in to defend Flower? you are suspicious as heck fam
even if Flower would be a possible townflip, the way you defend her seems shady and scummy, you chose your words wisely

Shottie, looking at your points, would you say that Flower is being a chaotic townie or a wolf? All these reasons point to the former. I definitely do not see a wolf flip flopping their reads every 3 pages or lie about the vote cap for no reason or tunnel Gambit for 96 hrs, refusing to listen to others who try telling her that Gambit could be town. Legit cannot. Everything here to a chaotic townie that's trying their best to solve the but doing it exceedingly poorly.

I cannot fathom a situation in which Flower is a wolf.

again just defending Flower I mean wtf

Eh, Shottie is a lot more reasonable than the other. I'ma try my best to convince at least one of them that the other is town

I think rather that this might be Dragos way to gain credit for being town. If Drago is scum then he is helping townis to form a towncore and uses TMI on townies and maybe that way he powerwolfs a scum mate
-just an tinfoil-

I think I'm going to throw away all my reads and rethink everything. Yeah, that sounds good.

I will start off with a new town core: Ted & Stray Cat. Everybody else is neutral. I will be doing a lot of reading.

here Dragomir backs up after Shottie fronted Drago and Stray, it really sounds like backing up, doesn't it?

Why don't you do what I'm doing and throw away your reads? Reread the phase. Reread everyone and come up with fresh thoughts.

Unvote

actually I started with that this DP and now you follow in my footsteps after I threw away all my reads and declared just Mich as town
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Vote lynch Dragomir


until I get a more confident view
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Coooooo! (Okosan's going to be entirely honest. He straight up doesn't have enough time for this game to stay up to date. So Okosan can already tell you what's going to happen. Mafia is going to keep Okosan around because his reads are either going to be absolute trash or so behind in thread relevance that he's an easy push. Then one day, probably not today, but at some point you guys are going to mislynch Okosan because of it.)

COOO! (Starting D4 maybe Okosan will actually be free enough to focus, but honestly it's probably a bit too late at that point so)

Coooooooo! (Well as Okosan said in his post Okosan feels that Wai and Ted are more scummy in general, but really because Okosan doesn't even remember reading anything of Oreki's. Oreki is just on there based off of vote logic and timing)

Coo!! Cooo? (Personally the order is probably something like Wai > Ted > Oreki. But with Wai and Ted only being like a point or two off)
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COOOO?? (And yeah Okosan was referring to Gambit's D1)
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Coo! COO! (Honestly if this was starting on D1 and Okosan joined he'd be a lot more here. But with such a large backlog Okosan just will not go back and figure out what's happening on his own really)

Cooo! (BUT if people have specific things that they want Okosan's take on feel free to ask him / link him to exactly what it is. Okosan will try to keep up with anything like that at least)

can you review Dragos D3 for me? and I also want other's thoughts
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I think Oko might be neutral

 

[Waindo]

Drago is 50/50 for me and he was my scum lean before he simmered down with posting, now I can't shake off this Beky/Shotty/Samael harmony.

I

 

[Dragomir]

here Dragomir backs up after Shottie fronted Drago and Stray, it really sounds like backing up, doesn't it?

Backing up how? I still think Flower is town and I will defend her.

 

[Shottie]

I had valid points against you that you have yet to disprove. And that made me do something drastic and you know that.

And which points have I failed to disprove?
You admit yourself that Law was a red herring.

Again, joby was trying to convince others I'm scum. Legit everyone can see that looking at her posts that, as flattered as I am that they were mostly about my play, gave me the creeps.

You made up stuff about my scum play, too. Legit the only game I played like that was the Feng Shen Ji Reg Game with joby.

Says I've made stuff up about her scum play and IN THE NEXT SENTENCE says she's played like that before in a different game with... wait for it.

To which I gotta ask you...joby told you that, no? Or shared that in the scum chat. So that's the only way you can really know.

Or ya know, you've played like that with me in a game and I haven't forgotten. Like Juliet I remember games I've played.

Then the case with Gambit. You did nothing except laugh at the situation instead of helping us.

And I gave you 2 other options on votes to cap.

You are fine with Beky and Ted arguing, despite you knowing it's TvT and Beky isn't me, he would probably listen to you. This behaviour is Anti Town and I would be fine lynching you just for that.

Then the question is how do you even know that all is TvT in the first place? Your posts scream of TMI

1) literally no one listens to my opinions
2) I know they are TvT because my reads haven't been proven to be shit yet.

But you have yet to explain why you ignore the Rej wagon thing when he is apparently on your radar. You constantly ignore that question

Funny. You mention that when you were quite ok with him sheeping on all the votes before.
In fact day 1 you said you liked his game play this game.
(It's ok to bring up day 1 reads. You keep doing it with Joby)

Also, Oreki and Wai are low hanging fruits rn. Pushing for them isn't a good look. You really think scum would put themselves in that much of a predicament when the Gambit lynch would have gone through without them? And the Juliet lynch, too?

WIFOM

Also Ted has been saying this too, so looks like you agree with him as well.

 

[Dragomir]

Those Joby images are killing me.

 

[Okosan]

why do you only cut in to defend Flower? you are suspicious as heck fam
even if Flower would be a possible townflip, the way you defend her seems shady and scummy, you chose your words wisely

again just defending Flower I mean wtf

I think rather that this might be Dragos way to gain credit for being town. If Drago is scum then he is helping townis to form a towncore and uses TMI on townies and maybe that way he powerwolfs a scum mate
-just an tinfoil-

here Dragomir backs up after Shottie fronted Drago and Stray, it really sounds like backing up, doesn't it?



actually I started with that this DP and now you follow in my footsteps after I threw away all my reads and declared just Mich as town
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Vote lynch Dragomir


until I get a more confident view
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can you review Dragos D3 for me? and I also want other's thoughts
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I think Oko might be neutral

Coo! (Sure, but no guarantee's depending on how much of a commitment that is reading-wise)

 

[Rej]

Backing up how? I still think Flower is town and I will defend her.

oh sorry, I meant "back down"...sry english is not my native language, I live in Pyongyang

 

[novaselinenever]

Vote Count

Tedxter – Beky > Okosan
Stray Cat – Shottie > Tedxter > Shottie > Rej > Dragomir > Samael
Samael – Beky > Shottie > Stray Cat
Waindo – Shottie > Tedxter > Shottie
Michelle – Beky > Dragomir
Dragomir – Beky > *
Shottie – Shottie > Stray Cat
Rej – Dragomir
Oreki – Samael

Total -

Samael / Stray Cat / Dragomir – 2
Shottie / Okosan – 1

Spoiler

Vote Lynch Beky

Vote lynch Beky

Vote lynch Beky

Unvote

Vote lynch Beky

Vote lynch Shottie.

ote lynch Ted.

Vote lynch Shottie.

Vote lynch Shottie

vote lynch shottie

Vote lynch Shottie

Unvote

Vote lynch tedxtr

Yeah...unvote.

vote lynch Stray cat

Vote lynch Rej.

Unvote.
Vote lynch Dragomir.

Vote lynch: Dragomir

Vote : Okosan

Vote Lynch @Samael

Vote lynch Samael.

vote lynch stray cat

Vote lynch Shottie

Unvote

Vote lynch Dragomir

 

[Rej]

@tedxtr your thoughts on Okosans progress this DP?

 

[Waindo]

What kind of a fruit am I?

 

[Okosan]

@tedxtr your thoughts on Okosans progress this DP?

Cooooo! (Tbh if Ted says anything but null or scummy then Ted is lying)

 

[Rej]

Cooooo! (Tbh if Ted says anything but null or scummy then Ted is lying)

we will see, I shall head to bed now, we need to start clear up stuff now and get a universal townread for everyone to begin with, we need to elect a townleader
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good night