[FIN] Traditional Mafia The Gang Plays Mafia [Mafia Championship Practice]

[Okosan]

Coo? (So what are the votes / wagons right now?)

 

[Waindo]

What tension? All I can see is Shottie spamming me with alerts which could be because she's pissed or panicking. Would have been totally fine with just leaving her Town cleared after the stress test, but she keeps tunneling me for some weird reason and throwing joby memes my way.

 

[Stray Cat]

Are you a Jack of All Trades?

 

[Waindo]

Are you a Jack of All Trades?

No.

I'm

 

[Stray Cat]

Coo? (So what are the votes / wagons right now?)

Dragomir, Samael and me have two votes.
Shottie and you have one vote currently.

 

[Okosan]

Dragomir, Samael and me have two votes.
Shottie and you have one vote currently.

Cooo! (Oh cool so no one actually wants to lynch scum got it)

 

[Rej]

Samael and Rej are definitely suspicious for Samael jumping at my throat like that and defending himself with walls of text and Rej for his constant flip flopping and sheeping people and not pushing the discussion forward.

I would put Beky into the list, too, but you know, Shottie said her reads are flawless and that Beky vs Ted is a TvT argument, so the third slot might be her. Although I'm still unsure.

Lynching one of the above two will give us info, however.


Gonna wait for more people to comment on this before I reply again.

Oh I pushed it forward but noone replied to it, at this stage the game has a troublesome pace, and I am free the upcomming days, I just have to work from tuesday to friday

Shottie said Beky's reads are flawless
Beky insinuated that we should get off Shottie's back cuz she's totally town.
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Shottie go to bed. It's not healthy to sleep less then 5-6 hours.

I mean we haven't yet tested how accurate Beky's reads are, right? In my Wano game his reads were correct since he entered.

I still wait on progress of others, I still wait for @tedxtr to make progress on his Oko read

Now I feel I dont sheep anyone @Stray Cat I just try to add my own thoughts and apply to cases, and here and there I make my own cases, IDK what to do more, since I can't essentially stalk this game for information...I was cut off 15 hours from this DP due to work
it is just naturally that my progress is not as intense as the progress of other people

also this DP not many questions were asked to me, I answered what I could and what I didn't miss
people are always free to at me with questions

anyway, stop this drama, I now have Feierabend and now I am here till lynchscene

 

[Stray Cat]

Cooo! (Oh cool so no one actually wants to lynch scum got it)

This game is stuck. Like literally just people tunneling their suspects over and over and not pushing for anyone to make some progress.
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Oh I pushed it forward but noone replied to it, at this stage the game has a troublesome pace, and I am free the upcomming days, I just have to work from tuesday to friday

I mean we haven't yet tested how accurate Beky's reads are, right? In my Wano game his reads were correct since he entered.

I still wait on progress of others, I still wait for @tedxtr to make progress on his Oko read

Now I feel I dont sheep anyone @Stray Cat I just try to add my own thoughts and apply to cases, and here and there I make my own cases, IDK what to do more, since I can't essentially stalk this game for information...I was cut off 15 hours from this DP due to work
it is just naturally that my progress is not as intense as the progress of other people

also this DP not many questions were asked to me, I answered what I could and what I didn't miss
people are always free to at me with questions

anyway, stop this drama, I now have Feierabend and now I am here till lynchscene

Cool. What do you make of Samael and his OMGUS reaction to my vote?

 

[Rej]

This game is stuck. Like literally just people tunneling their suspects over and over and not pushing for anyone to make some progress.

it is stuck because 1. some people dont vote and 2. some people dont progress their reads, like ted or Drago
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You have to stop calling others play scummy because it goes against your idealistic town play man .
I see everyone willing to work together except you, every corner there is sus thrown everywhere on everyone and half the time it’s because they said or did something that you feel they shouldn’t.
Play style aren’t always going to match or be the same.

This is cute. Just a few pages ago I repeatedly read the opposite? I was inactive damn near yesterday and while the time I was out working you managed to get this from probably 5 post I made before leaving out?

1. the buddying thing? I don’t give a fuck if you don’t like it. It’s how I get my reads/feels snd we’re not hitting shit.I’ll buddy with someone I see wants to solve the game or genuinely wishes to work with another before I keep digging at each other’s throat letting scum watch us take each other out.

2. Ted has looked better since the start of the last phase. I’ve already touched on why I was willing to actually look objectively and see his logic on things. What you’re doing is using one game you’ve played with me and trying to paint a picture to other posters, which is bull and bad play. If you can show me a push due to backpedaling on Ted recently then I’ll concede if not then stop spreading false things about me.

3. Again I have better feelings towards the two. How you play isn’t going to get us anywhere, I trust my gut more than any of you snd if it says or feels the two people who seem to Share the same logic as me aren’t so bad then boom. I’m taking my bets on us coming together and finding a common scum in our reads to lynch. Your issue is that the game revolves around stray. If you don’t like how someone does something because it isn’t how you’d do it. Their bad, you’ve done this with numerous people now, it’s why damn near everyone with a presence or just about as vocal as you has been seen as scum. It’s not buddying if I see the same thing other posters see, it’s called reading and comprehending.
Show me a post of me buddying you, literally I mean outright just agreeing. Without my own 2 cents that game strictly from me.

Using one game again. Sad. I’m rarely ever town but as town from those who taught me this is bad.

I do like bussing when necessary. I’ve bussed a teammate twice since playing mafia, that whole I like bussing when pressure applied to teammate thing is bs. Stop using others hearsay to get a read or look on me and use what you’re seeing for yourself.
Like what does me pushing Drago on a game In a different say have to do with the game here?

your entire post is used to make me look bad, there’s no logic simply because he did this and I wouldn’t do or just don’t like it he’s sus.
Here’s the facts.
A(you’re using a game from another sight to try and say I might possibly be doing the same here)
B(you’re using your first game with me to keep I’m assuming a meta read which I don’t have, I can switch up when I feel like it as everyone else do that’s a bad tunnel vision off rip)
C(you refuse to even consider that maybe I scum read Drago for my own reasons as listed and can be seen if your actually go back and read)

don’t make it seem like my pushes came because of your read on him. I was reading him alongside shottie as scum after a post shottie made that gave me some insight. I then had my own quote war with him
And came to my own conclusions. Just because you might share a read doesn’t mean someone’s copying or buddying it.
Faulty logic and you tried to paint me in a bad light, that’s scummy.





show a instance instead of making claims. You’ve already showed you’ll lie on me or try to paint me in a bad light without actually quotes or claims so
Let’s see it.

vote lynch stray cat

Reading that you not only threw me in a bad light but Drago repeatedly, that’s all I had to see. If your not scum I’ll take my fall but I can’t ignore numerous attempts to make someone look bad.

I’m reading you bad, this now makes me view Drago better. No way he’s scum with what you’re implying in that post unless you’re distancing hard.

@Stray Cat this one?

 

[Stray Cat]

it is stuck because 1. some people dont vote and 2. some people dont progress their reads, like ted or Drago
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@Stray Cat this one?

Yes, that. Legit a whole wall of text that seems like wall defense.
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Like I understand some points that he's saying, but I just mentioned that him being scum is possible from my PoV and not that he has to be scum. Why that over the top defense?
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Also, what do you think about Shottie's suggestion to lynch either you or Wai this DP @Rej ?

 

[Rej]

You have to stop calling others play scummy because it goes against your idealistic town play man .
I see everyone willing to work together except you, every corner there is sus thrown everywhere on everyone and half the time it’s because they said or did something that you feel they shouldn’t.
Play style aren’t always going to match or be the same.

This is cute. Just a few pages ago I repeatedly read the opposite? I was inactive damn near yesterday and while the time I was out working you managed to get this from probably 5 post I made before leaving out?

1. the buddying thing? I don’t give a fuck if you don’t like it. It’s how I get my reads/feels snd we’re not hitting shit.I’ll buddy with someone I see wants to solve the game or genuinely wishes to work with another before I keep digging at each other’s throat letting scum watch us take each other out.

2. Ted has looked better since the start of the last phase. I’ve already touched on why I was willing to actually look objectively and see his logic on things. What you’re doing is using one game you’ve played with me and trying to paint a picture to other posters, which is bull and bad play. If you can show me a push due to backpedaling on Ted recently then I’ll concede if not then stop spreading false things about me.

3. Again I have better feelings towards the two. How you play isn’t going to get us anywhere, I trust my gut more than any of you snd if it says or feels the two people who seem to Share the same logic as me aren’t so bad then boom. I’m taking my bets on us coming together and finding a common scum in our reads to lynch. Your issue is that the game revolves around stray. If you don’t like how someone does something because it isn’t how you’d do it. Their bad, you’ve done this with numerous people now, it’s why damn near everyone with a presence or just about as vocal as you has been seen as scum. It’s not buddying if I see the same thing other posters see, it’s called reading and comprehending.
Show me a post of me buddying you, literally I mean outright just agreeing. Without my own 2 cents that game strictly from me.

Using one game again. Sad. I’m rarely ever town but as town from those who taught me this is bad.

I do like bussing when necessary. I’ve bussed a teammate twice since playing mafia, that whole I like bussing when pressure applied to teammate thing is bs. Stop using others hearsay to get a read or look on me and use what you’re seeing for yourself.
Like what does me pushing Drago on a game In a different say have to do with the game here?

your entire post is used to make me look bad, there’s no logic simply because he did this and I wouldn’t do or just don’t like it he’s sus.
Here’s the facts.
A(you’re using a game from another sight to try and say I might possibly be doing the same here)
B(you’re using your first game with me to keep I’m assuming a meta read which I don’t have, I can switch up when I feel like it as everyone else do that’s a bad tunnel vision off rip)
C(you refuse to even consider that maybe I scum read Drago for my own reasons as listed and can be seen if your actually go back and read)

don’t make it seem like my pushes came because of your read on him. I was reading him alongside shottie as scum after a post shottie made that gave me some insight. I then had my own quote war with him
And came to my own conclusions. Just because you might share a read doesn’t mean someone’s copying or buddying it.
Faulty logic and you tried to paint me in a bad light, that’s scummy.





show a instance instead of making claims. You’ve already showed you’ll lie on me or try to paint me in a bad light without actually quotes or claims so
Let’s see it.

vote lynch stray cat

Reading that you not only threw me in a bad light but Drago repeatedly, that’s all I had to see. If your not scum I’ll take my fall but I can’t ignore numerous attempts to make someone look bad.

I’m reading you bad, this now makes me view Drago better. No way he’s scum with what you’re implying in that post unless you’re distancing hard.

@Stray Cat

Yellow = defensive parts
Gren = parts where he progresses

I think his OMGUS on you is justified and telling he is scum because of that is not the best approach, he is scummy for other reasons but not the OMGUS. It is not really an OMGUS, it is a bit opportunistic, but this guys has progress. He seems like one whogenuinely made his own progression on you. If anything is correct is questionable. I just agree with the facts that you looked better past DPs and now your posts contain confusing salad sometimes and jumps throughout all of people.

You guys do you, if Drago flips scum from my point of view then I would pressure the shit out of Sam in question of him TMI reading Drago and TMI pushing Drago.

 

[Stray Cat]

@Stray Cat

Yellow = defensive parts
Gren = parts where he progresses

I think his OMGUS on you is justified and telling he is scum because of that is not the best approach, he is scummy for other reasons but not the OMGUS. It is not really an OMGUS, it is a bit opportunistic, but this guys has progress. He seems like one whogenuinely made his own progression on you. If anything is correct is questionable. I just agree with the facts that you looked better past DPs and now your posts contain confusing salad sometimes and jumps throughout all of people.

You guys do you, if Drago flips scum from my point of view then I would pressure the shit out of Sam in question of him TMI reading Drago and TMI pushing Drago.

Thanks for the insight. Reread the last pages of this thread. What do you make of the Shottie/Samael/Beky dynamic?

 

[Rej]

Also, what do you think about Shottie's suggestion to lynch either you or Wai this DP @Rej ?

Comes out of nowhere, I would like to hear from @Shottie how she came to this and what she thinks about Wai soft pushing me inbetween. If Wai and me were scum then why should he point towards me and bring ones attention towards me?

 

[Stray Cat]

Comes out of nowhere, I would like to hear from @Shottie how she came to this and what she thinks about Wai soft pushing me inbetween. If Wai and me were scum then why should he point towards me and bring ones attention towards me?

Her scum trio headcanon are Oreki, Wai and me, so I don't even know what this has to do with you. She just brought you up because I told her you were on both mislynch wagons, too, I guess.
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@Oreki are you here yet?

 

[Rej]

Apparently everyone went to sleep.

I'm here now and still not much changed since this morning.

I've given it a thought and i am ok with either Shottie - Stray - Rej lynch but i would still pref Ted - Drago.
I don't believe Shottie and Stray is TvT. There is just too much tension in it to be two townies going back and forth.
Rej is ok lynch too for me bcs i just don't think he is pushy enough as he is normally

Ted and Drago is self explanatory

I also have a theory about stray but i will hold it to myself for now.

you mean those dynamics (past 3 pages) besides non existing dynamics and some flowing pushes into nothing?

the first one is suspicious I don't doubt it, first they wreck havoc in the thread then Shotties only quote/interaction with Beky is this

here (second quote) Beky considers Shottie a good lynch candidate, I mean his progress is vague but it is there, I doubt it is a scum push because he seemingly is all over the place but I don't fully exclude it

for Sam, IDK man, I can't read his interactions with Shottie and Beky but all I saw was him having some clutch with Oreki? I have to reread that again in a separate case. He flowed with Shottie against Oreki, hmmm,I mean I see why Wai reads Shotz, Beks and Sam as scum trio, but is it really that easy? Shottie was very often painted as scum and I still have hard times tracking it, Shottie is one of those players I never really cared about to dissect in any game, I think I was just fine she brought her energy to every game and she always invents some difficult stages in the DP, that's just Shottie, but how scum motivations fit there...I don't know, I think it is a thing and this would make Shottie a deepwolf

 

[Stray Cat]

you mean those dynamics (past 3 pages) besides non existing dynamics and some flowing pushes into nothing?

the first one is suspicious I don't doubt it, first they wreck havoc in the thread then Shotties only quote/interaction with Beky is this

here (second quote) Beky considers Shottie a good lynch candidate, I mean his progress is vague but it is there, I doubt it is a scum push because he seemingly is all over the place but I don't fully exclude it

for Sam, IDK man, I can't read his interactions with Shottie and Beky but all I saw was him having some clutch with Oreki? I have to reread that again in a separate case. He flowed with Shottie against Oreki, hmmm,I mean I see why Wai reads Shotz, Beks and Sam as scum trio, but is it really that easy? Shottie was very often painted as scum and I still have hard times tracking it, Shottie is one of those players I never really cared about to dissect in any game, I think I was just fine she brought her energy to every game and she always invents some difficult stages in the DP, that's just Shottie, but how scum motivations fit there...I don't know, I think it is a thing and this would make Shottie a deepwolf

This game is just so damn weird. Nothing makes sense. Thing is Wai has been suspecting Shottie since last DP and been relatively consistent with his suspicions. Sam and Shottie were both on his list, so there is that. And here you have Shottie Town reading me last DP, then shifting to scum read for the reason that I'm still alive amongst others xD.

If Beky is Town and we can trust his reads, then he views Shottie vs me as TvW and knowing that I'm Town, that would leave Shottie as scum.

But if he is scum he might be protecting Shottie who could be anything in that case.

 

[Oreki]

@Oreki are you here yet?

Yes. I'll actually take a part hour or two before the time phase limit
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Also, I haven't collected the posts or even started for the Samael case but did you guys noticed his frustration when I said I am not giving him a reason for his vote? If I distinguish between town and scum reaction it was lean more towards scum. Like he's pulling all these efforts, yet voted without any justification and the voter is not giving a reason therefore if got lynch it's not justified while I feel like town reaction is what Shottie and Gambit did or doing

 

[Okosan]

Cooooo! (It's going to be real good when we lynch town this phase because no one can agree on anything)

 

[Stray Cat]

Yes. I'll actually take a part hour or two before the time phase limit
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Also, I haven't collected the posts or even started for the Samael case but did you guys noticed his frustration when I said I am not giving him a reason for his vote? If I distinguish between town and scum reaction it was lean more towards scum. Like he's pulling all these efforts, yet voted without any justification and the voter is not giving a reason therefore if got lynch it's not justified while I feel like town reaction is what Shottie and Gambit did or doing

Ever since Gambit I feel like those that are fighting back are more likely to be scum.
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Cooooo! (It's going to be real good when we lynch town this phase because no one can agree on anything)

Some people weren't really here yet this DP.

 

[Beky]

I'm ok with shottie, stray or you becaues i would give us way more info than bitching here