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Im more curious if Oda will make any minor story regarding where the Wado Ichimonji came from. More curious if Zoro will decline giving up Shusui.
 
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Well I'm saying it ever since TB and now it becomes more clear in Wano

Just think about Zoro even knowing stuff from Wano like the Ringo tradition of burrying the swords... He did the same with Yubashiri in TB
 

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Well I'm saying it ever since TB and now it becomes more clear in Wano

Just think about Zoro even knowing stuff from Wano like the Ringo tradition of burrying the swords... He did the same with Yubashiri in TB
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For me there is no doubt that Zoro is actually Zoro Shimotsuki, there are just to many links.

One of the biggest links might be overseen because it’s right in front of your eyes.

We know all that Oda like to use Spanish language, French language and even German language in its manga for some words or attack’s.

Zoro/Zorro is the Spanish word for Fox. Boom there you go - this can’t be coincidence when you read the latest chapter.

Furthermore Ryuma and Zoro where born in November which the old Japanese word for is “Shimotsuki”. Both have the same Bloodtype XF etc. Both are lefthanded etc.

But Zoro meaning Fox in Spanisch is mind blowing in my point of view.
 

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For me there is no doubt that Zoro is actually Zoro Shimotsuki, there are just to many links.

One of the biggest links might be overseen because it’s right in front of your eyes.

We know all that Oda like to use Spanish language, French language and even German language in its manga for some words or attack’s.

Zoro/Zorro is the Spanish word for Fox. Boom there you go - this can’t be coincidence when you read the latest chapter.

Furthermore Ryuma and Zoro where born in November which the old Japanese word for is “Shimotsuki”. Both have the same Bloodtype XF etc. Both are lefthanded etc.

But Zoro meaning Fox in Spanisch is mind blowing in my point of view.
Mindblow wtf
 
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Well I'm saying it ever since TB and now it becomes more clear in Wano

Just think about Zoro even knowing stuff from Wano like the Ringo tradition of burrying the swords... He did the same with Yubashiri in TB
It was different from the Ringo traditions.
He burried the destroyed Sword. Ringo traditions is that the Samurai end up getting burried together with their swords. (I wouldn't be suorised, if Ringo Samurais had to make seppuku If their swords break).

But definetly Zoro learned a lot about Wano traditions. I mean Koushiru is most likely also a member of Shimotsuki family (I mean the Village where his Dojo is, is called Shimotsuki Village).

Koshirou being a member of Shimotsuki family let me doubt that Zoro is part of it. So Zoro neither Origins neither Ringo nor Hakumai. Thats why I also doubt Koshirou teached him Sunnachi.

Could it be that Zoro was trained by someone else before joining Koushiros dojo? Maybe by his own father? Who learned about Sunnachi from his father and so on.
So I really start to think Zoros ancestors from Kuri. Another hint is that Zoro is the only one able to feel the curse of Kitetsu swords. Maybe Kitetsu swords are the reason His family fall and left Kuri, ending up with Kuri becoming a wasteland.Maybe during the time Wano was known as the Land of gold, Wano was lead by three families
  1. Kozuki (center)
  2. Shimotsuki (east)
  3. Roronoa (west, not necessary named Roronoa but you know what I mean)
And post Wano his 3 swords might end up representing these 3 families
  1. Enma - Kozuki
  2. Wado Ichi Monji - Shimotsuki
  3. Kitetsu - Roronoa
Will later right it down as theory and back up everything with panels.
 
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It was different from the Ringo traditions.
He burried the destroyed Sword. Ringo traditions is that the Samurai end up getting burried together with their swords. (I wouldn't be suorised, if Ringo Samurais had to make seppuku If their swords break).

But definetly Zoro learned a lot about Wano traditions. I mean Koushiru is most likely also a member of Shimotsuki family (I mean the Village where his Dojo is, is called Shimotsuki Village).

Koshirou being a member of Shimotsuki family let me doubt that Zoro is part of it. So Zoro neither Origins neither Ringo nor Hakumai. Thats why I also doubt Koshirou teached him Sunnachi.

Could it be that Zoro was trained by someone else before joining Koushiros dojo? Maybe by his own father? Who learned about Sunnachi from his father and so on.
So I really start to think Zoros ancestors from Kuri. Another hint is that Zoro is the only one able to feel the curse of Kitetsu swords. Maybe Kitetsu swords are the reason His family fall and left Kuri, ending up with Kuri becoming a wasteland.Maybe during the time Wano was known as the Land of gold, Wano was lead by three families
  1. Kozuki (center)
  2. Shimotsuki (east)
  3. Roronoa (west, not necessary named Roronoa but you know what I mean)
And post Wano his 3 swords might end up representing these 3 families
  1. Enma - Kozuki
  2. Wado Ichi Monji - Shimotsuki
  3. Kitetsu - Roronoa
Will later right it down as theory and back up everything with panels.
Looking forward to your theory, sounds promising.
 
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Also, read this from OJ thread which i found interesting. Someone mentioned Zoro is not hearing "Shimotsuki", when his name is being mentioned Zoro just happens to not be around. I want to know where the major reveal when Zoro finally hears that name will be
 
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Also, read this from OJ thread which i found interesting. Someone mentioned Zoro is not hearing "Shimotsuki", when his name is being mentioned Zoro just happens to not be around. I want to know where the major reveal when Zoro finally hears that name will be
He will most likely realize that Koushiro and Kuina also part of this family and that the Wado Ichi Monji is a sword of the Shimotsuki family ;)
 
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He will most likely realize that Koushiro and Kuina also part of this family and that the Wado Ichi Monji is a sword of the Shimotsuki family ;)
Am i the only one who got completely lost in all these new names
 
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Am i the only one who got completely lost in all these new names
Shimotsuki Family
  • Ruled over Hakumai and Ringo
  • The Doujo we saw Zoro as Kid was in Shimotsuki Village in EB -> Koushiro was most likely also member of Shimotsuki Clan
  • The great Sword God Ryuma was als a member of this family
 
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Can't wait for spoilers, ya know there are gonna be a couple pages about Zoro. Possibly the start of an Oden backstory
 
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For me there is no doubt that Zoro is actually Zoro Shimotsuki, there are just to many links.

One of the biggest links might be overseen because it’s right in front of your eyes.

We know all that Oda like to use Spanish language, French language and even German language in its manga for some words or attack’s.

Zoro/Zorro is the Spanish word for Fox. Boom there you go - this can’t be coincidence when you read the latest chapter.

Furthermore Ryuma and Zoro where born in November which the old Japanese word for is “Shimotsuki”. Both have the same Bloodtype XF etc. Both are lefthanded etc.

But Zoro meaning Fox in Spanisch is mind blowing in my point of view.
Yes Zorro means fox in Spanish which is a nice connection. But I think that Zoro is or at least at the beginning was in reference to El Zorro
This guy:

 
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Yes Zorro means fox in Spanish which is a nice connection. But I think that Zoro is or at least at the beginning was in reference to El Zorro
This guy:

No doubt, absolutely his inspired by the Famous Spanish character El Zoro or Z like Zoro, even Zoros bandana comes from there.
 
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Seems Zoro is letting Shisui go... Interesting maybe when he gets to go to the thumb of Ryuma he might find some clues about his past
 
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discussions about Zoro and his sword(s) is always a pleasure to my eyes, literal sword tho #nohomo

just a hunch, but Zoro will still wield Shusui until OP finished.
 
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