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[Ziosa]

Fact is it should have resistance to blunt force and immunity to electricity. It's what rubber does, and it's nowhere close to the craziest things that some of the other fruits offer, like light speed, etc..

So there's no issue with balance, and it's grounded in logic, and backed up by canon. That's just a fact. xD It literally hits all 3 pillars of RP approvals. It's logical. It's balanced. And it's canon. xD

because every DF only has 1 stat boosts, which the Gomu already has

 

[Ziosa]

only thing that could work is @Gambit idea, but its still way too many boosts for one fruit; and then you have Gears on top. You resist blunt and electric, can stretch your limbs, gear second, gear third, gear fourth. and thats without doing any actual techniques etc. yes its not as strong as a logia or a mythical, but in terms of actual passive things its strong and too many

 

[Gambit]

only thing that could work is @Gambit idea, but its still way too many boosts for one fruit; and then you have Gears on top. You resist blunt and electric, can stretch your limbs, gear second, gear third, gear fourth. and thats without doing any actual techniques etc. yes its not as strong as a logia or a mythical, but in terms of actual passive things its strong and too many

TBF let's give Gomu the privilege of having some against Cross lol. Against the likes of many, being a Gomu doesn't stop from being hurt.

 

[Emperor Cross]

Cross has Rokushiki

 

[Gambit]

Cross has Rokushiki

Yeah. Doesn't make you intangible.

 

[Kaka]

because every DF only has 1 stat boosts, which the Gomu already has

I don't understand why you keep looking at it as a stat boost. It's just the property of the element/material.

You don't see the Mera/Magu's resistance to heat as a stat boost, or Yuki/Hie's resistance to cold as a stat boost. It's just part of the fruit's ability.

 

[Ziosa]

I don't understand why you keep looking at it as a stat boost. It's just the property of the element/material.

You don't see the Mera/Magu's resistance to heat as a stat boost, or Yuki/Hie's resistance to cold as a stat boost. It's just part of the fruit's ability.

its because in order for it to work it would need to be +1 durability, which would count as a stat boost. as we only have lightning/electricity and not like shock effects. its not something that works as just part of the fruit

 

[The Fool]

@Ziosa @kakashi19283 @Gambit

Couldn't the whole say Magu being the superior DF to Mera be like a perk of the DF?

Then how the Gomu Gomu "negates"(conducts) the Goro Goro also be perk?

But these perks are dependent on said DFs, as each differs.

 

[Ziosa]

@Ziosa @kakashi19283 @Gambit

Couldn't the whole say Magu being the superior DF to Mera be like a perk of the DF?

Then how the Gomu Gomu "negates"(conducts) the Goro Goro also be perk?

But these perks are dependent on said DFs, as each differs.

problem with that is you can only have a certain amount of perks, so unless it is made to be a part of the fruit, you would have to waste a slot on it

 

[The Fool]

problem with that is you can only have a certain amount of perks, so unless it is made to be a part of the fruit, you would have to waste a slot on it

The perks will be limited to two slots, that can be enhanced to three maximum (you can purchase a further perk slot for something like 5-10k exp). We keep it basic for the start.

 

[Ziosa]

The perks will be limited to two slots, that can be enhanced to three maximum (you can purchase a further perk slot for something like 5-10k exp). We keep it basic for the start.

which doesnt solve the problem of gomu not having a canon thing lol

 

[The Fool]

which doesnt solve the problem of gomu not having a canon thing lol

A way to solve it would be where the user must stay in normal mode and not activate Gear 2nd/3rd/4th/(or whatever is next from Luffy), then the user is able to negate the Goro Goro no Mi.

 

[Ziosa]

A way to solve it would be where the user must stay in normal mode and not activate Gear 2nd/3rd/4th/(or whatever is next from Luffy, then the user is able to negate the Goro Goro no Mi.

none of them change what he is though, hes still rubber while using gear 3rd etc

 

[The Fool]

none of them change what he is though, hes still rubber while using gear 3rd etc

I'd say Gear second is a double edge sword, as a Goro user can further heat the user and inflict burn damage
Gear 3rd and 4th is a bit difficult to do but if that's the case then maybe add Lightning Burn to Goro DF

 

[Kaka]

its because in order for it to work it would need to be +1 durability, which would count as a stat boost. as we only have lightning/electricity and not like shock effects. its not something that works as just part of the fruit

But it literally does work as part of the fruit. It's rubber. It's canon. I really don't know how to say it otherwise. It's the same as Poison immunity for Magellan. It's literally canon and logical and true. Only excuse would be balance, but it would still be balanced and nothing overpowered even with the immunity. And putting it as a stat boost makes no sense because it's an immunity. It's not a partial resistance. Even Enel's strongest attacks did 0. It's complete immunity, you can't capture it with a +1 or +2 or +3. It's a +infinite. It's complete immunity. -_-
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I'd say Gear second is a double edge sword, as a Goro user can further heat the user and inflict burn damage
Gear 3rd and 4th is a bit difficult to do but if that's the case then maybe add Lightning Burn to Goro DF

Enel's attacks charred/burned Viper but didn't Luffy. The lightning can't heat up something it cannot pass through. Which further demonstrates just how immune it is. Not a +1, or +2, or +3, it's immune.

 

[Ziosa]

But it literally does work as part of the fruit. It's rubber. It's canon. I really don't know how to say it otherwise. It's the same as Poison immunity for Magellan. It's literally canon and logical and true. Only excuse would be balance, but it would still be balanced and nothing overpowered even with the immunity. And putting it as a stat boost makes no sense because it's an immunity. It's not a partial resistance. Even Enel's strongest attacks did 0. It's complete immunity, you can't capture it with a +1 or +2 or +3. It's a +infinite. It's complete immunity. -_-
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Enel's attacks charred/burned Viper but didn't Luffy. The lightning can't heat up something it cannot pass through. Which further demonstrates just how immune it is. Not a +1, or +2, or +3, it's immune.

immunity isnt balanced in this RP, hence why its not immune to blunt attacks. Its making an entire attack type ineffective, unless you use a sword or a DF you would do blunt damage most of the time. Plus even if it was an immunity, Haki would bypass it anyway; making the entire thing kinda pointless to add, especially since nothing in the RP is immune to anything (off the top of my head)

best i can do is this;

Tier 1 boost: +1 Durability rank against blunt attacks without haki
Tier 2 boost: +1 Durability rank against blunt and lightning attacks without haki
Tier 3 boost: +2 Durability rank against blunt and lightning attacks without haki

 

[Gambit]

Regardless of the count of perks, we may offer a variety of DF, I think balancing and auto-cancel against a certain opponent are still the biggest issues that the GMs have in mind. I am trying to understand the situation on their end and it's involved in that.

And as much as we want a certain ability to be relative to real life and canon, it will be problematic if used on a certain one and it's becoming unfair if say Daddy-shame wouldn't be able to land a blow against a former version of Joby's.

It is similar to auto-hitting someone or becoming useless against someone. That's how I see it.

Demo, I still hold on to giving a special ability to those who obtain awakening or at least 100 in that department. I mean, if you really are a master of that fruit, then I say it's only understandable if you could at least add another one which is subject to approval to see if it's balanced.

So for Gomu at 100 stat points: you'd have +1. Awakening it, gives you more. But that's it. Albeit, it's only limited to immunity against Electricity and it's still not a big deal as they are not the only opponents you'd come across in the entire RP. If either Cross or whoever the future user of Gomu will be, they'd have a lot of trouble dealing with the likes of me or any destructive fruit users.

So for Magma vs Fire Fruit, I guess it's only safe to disregard the superiority of the former against the latter because we are already following a DPR system. However, with awakening, and you are able to engulf the entire island with volcanoes casting lavas in a speed of light shit, then I don't think superiority still matters there, it's how you'd escape the said attack with such AOE.

The bottom line is, yielding to the fundamental attribute of the element against the other would not harm if set to the highest level of attainment. After all, each of us is not limited to a lone skill. TBH, all of us are capable of figuring how to counter one another.

 

[Ebuk]

Interesting discussion on devil fruit immunity. I'd like to add that the Suna shouldn't be affected by water xD

 

[Gambit]

Interesting discussion on devil fruit immunity. I'd like to add that the Suna shouldn't be affected by water xD

Then like @kakashi19283 said about Light not being bright no more, Sand itself is no longer sand when that befalls. LOL

 

[Kaka]

I don't think complete immunity is a balance issue nor do I think it's unfair to Cross. There are other examples of this.

The heat fruit can go up to 10k degrees, the Fire or the Magma can NEVER burn him, ever, unless it's with Haki.

The Yuki will NEVER be able to freeze the Hie, or make him feel cold at all. No poison will ever work on Magellan. That's just how it is.

Plus the notion that Cross can't do anything is false. He can still shapeshift any metal into any shape, and make it hot. He can still move with the speed of lightning.. He can still pass through any metal to hide and come out at a different spot. There's still many uses. Not to mention, he can still use his Logia-ness in other efforts. For example, get a Reject Dial. You won't get hit by recoil due to your intangible body, you can spam Reject Dials all day long while also using it to absorb all of the Gomu user's blunt attacks. Get fire + breath dial combos for huge fire infernos, you can't be burned while the Gomu user can. Enel was also able to survive in outer space which means he doesn't need to breathe. So get gas dials and release poisons.

There's so many possibilities outside of spamming El Thor like a nutjob.