Chapter Discussion One Piece - Chapter 974: Onward to Onigashima

[Lemonade]

What irks me is no mention of BM pirates outside of BM

Smoothie!

Idk who will fight Perospero but i'm hoping for Sanji vs Daifuku again

 

[Captain Khan]

Now that's how one ends the flashback and begins the Wano-Onigashima war . Yeah that's right ,in my opinion there will be battles all around .

I think Denjiro(Kyoshiro) will seize the Flower Capital while the Supernova-Scabbard-Mink make a move on Onigashima . Earlobes Ninja is a cautious guy , he would be keeping tabs on the Capital too .

Of the SHP ; Robin, Franky are sure to be on Sunny as well as Nami because of the hard navigation . Robin due to poneglyph and Franky has the blueprints of the Kaido's castle/home whatever . Most likely Law planned this and he always keeps all his cards spread so going all out on Onigashima seems unlikely . He most likely( I am almost sure) knows of the Big Mom- Kaido Alliance through Drake , so another reason why he would not choose to divulge all the forces incase they need to withdraw . He would surely try something like he did in Punk Hazard and Dressrosa . In this case I am thinking of him trying to destroy all the factories or doing what Luffy did with the prison , causing a true civil war . Either Zoro or Sanji should be in the Capital . Kanjiro will make a run for the Capital thinking it to be safe and thereby meeting Denjiro( many in TB predicted the same , only my choice of setting is different)
And since the Alliance does not know about Denjiro so chances are high that they(Law) will try something there too . Since Holdem is in Wano, I am guessing not all Headliners will be in the Festival .

Law has always used Marines in his plans . I think this time would not be different if he knows of Drake's identity . Also if Drake is a senior member/head of the SWORDS he will have some authority to ally with Law in hopes of neutralizing or even dettering the Kaido-Big Mom Alliance to some extent . This all depends on where the Big Mom Pirates are .
We know Smoker is missing for some time now . He was surely given the leadership of G5 . So he will have a lot of troops and will be on the upper echelons of the Marine Hierarchy ergo he knows about the two Yonko allying. I bet he will not remain quite . He also visited Vegapunk recently . His addition may only scale the battle in the Supernovas favour . There is also Aokiji whose whereabouts are unknown as he was not there with Blackbeard . Akainu said they(Marines) did not have enough manpower , so if he can use Squardo why not the Supernovas .

 

[joby]

Now that's how one ends the flashback and begins the Wano-Onigashima war . Yeah that's right ,in my opinion there will be battles all around .

I think Denjiro(Kyoshiro) will seize the Flower Capital while the Supernova-Scabbard-Mink make a move on Onigashima . Earlobes Ninja is a cautious guy , he would be keeping tabs on the Capital too .

Of the SHP ; Robin, Franky are sure to be on Sunny as well as Nami because of the hard navigation . Robin due to poneglyph and Franky has the blueprints of the Kaido's castle/home whatever . Most likely Law planned this and he always keeps all his cards spread so going all out on Onigashima seems unlikely . He most likely( I am almost sure) knows of the Big Mom- Kaido Alliance through Drake , so another reason why he would not choose to divulge all the forces incase they need to withdraw . He would surely try something like he did in Punk Hazard and Dressrosa . In this case I am thinking of him trying to destroy all the factories or doing what Luffy did with the prison , causing a true civil war . Either Zoro or Sanji should be in the Capital . Kanjiro will make a run for the Capital thinking it to be safe and thereby meeting Denjiro( many in TB predicted the same , only my choice of setting is different)
And since the Alliance does not know about Denjiro so chances are high that they(Law) will try something there too . Since Holdem is in Wano, I am guessing not all Headliners will be in the Festival .

Law has always used Marines in his plans . I think this time would not be different if he knows of Drake's identity . Also if Drake is a senior member/head of the SWORDS he will have some authority to ally with Law in hopes of neutralizing or even dettering the Kaido-Big Mom Alliance to some extent . This all depends on where the Big Mom Pirates are .
We know Smoker is missing for some time now . He was surely given the leadership of G5 . So he will have a lot of troops and will be on the upper echelons of the Marine Hierarchy ergo he knows about the two Yonko allying. I bet he will not remain quite . He also visited Vegapunk recently . His addition may only scale the battle in the Supernovas favour . There is also Aokiji whose whereabouts are unknown as he was not there with Blackbeard . Akainu said they(Marines) did not have enough manpower , so if he can use Squardo why not the Supernovas .

I also think he’s taken the Capitol. If you look back at Orochi’s map of blown up bridges, it would still be possible for everyone from all over Wano to gather at a single port so long as they all went through the Capitol.
This war is going to be Marineford on steroids!

 

[Captain Khan]

I also think he’s taken the Capitol. If you look back at Orochi’s map of blown up bridges, it would still be possible for everyone from all over Wano to gather at a single port so long as they all went through the Capitol.
This war is going to be Marineford on steroids!

Yeah and this will be the beginning of the LAST WAR

 

[joby]

Yeah and this will be the beginning of the LAST WAR

Is kaido’s road ponelioglyph the final one?

 

[Captain Khan]

Is kaido’s road ponelioglyph the final one?

No it will be the third one . But I think this battle will serve as a prologue of the final war with Wano opening its borders . We have already the Shichibukai Hunt and also the Revolutionary Army making their move ,every plotline is converging .Winners of all these battles will move forward to the final stage as I am not sure if everyone will fight at Laughtale . Most likely Luffy v Blackbeard at Laughtale will happen but not sure how the Marines and Revs play their part , I am still hoping for coup in the Marines .

 

[joby]

No it will be the third one . But I think this battle will serve as a prologue of the final war with Wano opening its borders . We have already the Shichibukai Hunt and also the Revolutionary Army making their move ,every plotline is converging .Winners of all these battles will move forward to the final stage as I am not sure if everyone will fight at Laughtale . Most likely Luffy v Blackbeard at Laughtale will happen but not sure how the Marines and Revs play their part , I am still hoping for coup in the Marines .

Is Elbaf confirmed not happening? If not there’s that which will probably be like zou arc and less of a wci. Then there will be laughtale and black beard and shanks arc and after Luffy uncovers the one piece and becomes pirate king, Im will no longer be able to ignore him and I believe the final war will be a siege on Marijoas. It will involve a massive naval battle to gain access and control of the Red Port which the Straw Hat Grand Fleet + Pirate alliance+ancient weapons+samurai+minks+fishmen+Schichubukai+Giants will all storm the castle and fight tenryubito and admirals.

 

[Ranger]

duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuude!!!!!!!!!! THIS CHAPTER WAS SOOOOO FREAKIN GOOD!!!!!!!!

I can't believe it's really going to be the tree original forshadowed supernova vs Kaido!!!!! This is too good! Oda knows what the fans want!!!

And honestly I didn't really believe there was a traitor! But it was Kanjuro!? And he was faking his trash art skills the whole time and was a Kurozumi!? WHAT!? This is some 400 iq level stuff, man.

GOda GOda GOda... you keep outdoing yourself! 2020 IS THE YEAR OF ONE PEICE!

 

[Marco]

After this last page, I am nearly sure that this one is a foreshadow that the last blow to kaido will come from those three supernovas.

cuz neither of them is strong enough to take down kaido alone.

 

[Captain Khan]

Is Elbaf confirmed not happening? If not there’s that which will probably be like zou arc and less of a wci. Then there will be laughtale and black beard and shanks arc and after Luffy uncovers the one piece and becomes pirate king, Im will no longer be able to ignore him and I believe the final war will be a siege on Marijoas. It will involve a massive naval battle to gain access and control of the Red Port which the Straw Hat Grand Fleet + Pirate alliance+ancient weapons+samurai+minks+fishmen+Schichubukai+Giants will all storm the castle and fight tenryubito and admirals.

Elbaf will likely happen in midst of the war and the Straw Hats may chill in the first half without knowing what is happening . That's why I said war .War can go on for months or years ,I should have said this first time LOL . So I am not isolating the present Onigashima-Wano and Shichibukai battles . Shanks might appear in the Elbaf arc ; we are having the Yonko saga so next is Shanks turn I guess. But who knows what Oda wills . Giants are likely hiding the last poneglyph as we never see Roger retrieving it .

If not for the Wano front of the war,the Shichibukai Hunt would have been a breeze for the Marines,that's why everyone in HQ was so concerned about the Kadio-Big Mom Alliance . They never predicted what happened 38 years ago to happen again . But the Gorosei and Im had some premonition but neither did they expect the Revs to go beyond guerrilla warfare. I think they already played their hands which likely involves the Sabo-Alabasta incident . I am thinking either Akainu would revert a sizeable chunk of his men to Wano which would create heavy losses in the Shichibukai front or that Kaido in his drunken stupor will suggest to start a war with Marines . Many people here in Thriller Bark underestimate the power of two Yonkos and their commanders ,an old sick Whitebeard wrecked Marineford .Had it been only Kaido I would have believed him to go down ,but present circumstances lead me to believe only Orochi dies .
Luffy only recently fought tooth and nail with Katakuri . The number of commanders are far too many for the present SHP alliance and we are yet to see the group of which Page One was part of .

Destruction of Fishman Island may be the last phase of the war . Now the location of the island is directly below the Red Line . Many have theorised, which I also concur to some degree that the Ancient Weapons and all the Big Wigs of One Piece would destroy the Red Line which in turn would destroy Fishman Island . This might happen as you say in the form of a siege of Mariejoa but I think it will not be a two-sided . I think Blackbeard will be there too . This will resemble much like that of God Valley Incident with Three Sides , one of Marines , one of Straw Hat Alliance and the last being Blackbeard Armada .

 

[Ghidorah Guy]

Still think the Raid's going to ultimately fail, and it'll partly come down to the Alliance suffering from a distraction, similar to what occurred during the battle between Kaido and Oden, with a sorta cascading domino effect following Luffy going down as the others lose focus. Kinda like what happened to Jozu and Marco back at Marineford too.

The distraction itself will probably come from Hiyori, having somehow made it to Onigashima. Pretends to be in trouble...cue a sinister smile. Kanjuro's not the only unhinged actor who's gone mad from playing different roles for most of her life.

Or something alone those lines

 

[Lemonade]

Still think the Raid's going to ultimately fail, and it'll partly come down to the Alliance suffering from a distraction, similar to what occurred during the battle between Kaido and Oden, with a sorta cascading domino effect following Luffy going down as the others lose focus. Kinda like what happened to Jozu and Marco back at Marineford too.

The distraction itself will probably come from Hiyori, having somehow made it to Onigashima. Pretends to be in trouble...cue a sinister smile. Kanjuro's not the only unhinged actor who's gone mad from playing different roles for most of her life.

Or something alone those lines

Too similar to WCI

 

[Gambit]

Hum I have been telling you that the traitor was Kanjuro

Most of us assumed it too. But the reveal is still surreal..

 

[God_Usopun]

Most of us assumed it too. But the reveal is still surreal..

Since the beginning of Zou when he drew that dragon, I had him.

 

[DarkWitch]

I'm so happy Kanjuro ended up being the traitor, this finally makes his character a bit more interesting now. Also very happy to see Luffy again along with Law and Kid, finally the battle at Onigashima is about to happen soon.

 

[Shiro Yaksha]

When you are at the sea, you fight pirates.....

simple and yet an awesome one liner......

it's been long since we heard such simple one liners from Luffy.....

awesome chapter......good to see auction trio again.....can't wait for next chapter...

 

[Lemonade]

What happened to Shinobu?

 

[Gambit]

What happened to Shinobu?

Might as well ask where the other ShP are no?

 

[Gyusa]

What happened to Shinobu?

she's been taken out by kanjuro(red) while there is another figure next to him shinobu(yellow)

 

[Lemonade]

Might as well ask where the other ShP are no?

Except we saw Shinobu with Momo when Scabbards were setting sail. We then saw the real Kanjuro holding Momo hostage with Shinobu nowhere to be seen.

she's been taken out by kanjuro(red) while there is another figure next to him shinobu(yellow)

Thanks. That makes sense, since that means Kanjuro was already on shore and knocked out Shinobu while his drawing was on ship with other Scabbards.