[FIN] Traditional Mafia The Gang Plays Mafia [Mafia Championship Practice]

[Oreki]

Vote Lynch @Waindo

 

[Stray Cat]

I’m not afraid of being scum read, I am annoyed at your push, because a lot of your arguments are not alignment indicative at all. I’m not going to waste my time arguing against your points, because it’s an endless loop where I’m always scum for doing something. If it’s not for something that I am doing, it will be because of something that Gambit does, or something like me and Gambit post at the same time.

I’d much rather use my time by working with people who are willing to hear me out and work with me, rather than call me scum for every non-alignment indicative thing.

And in the process of doing that, your read on me will probably also go away, because you’ll see that you are wrong.

You are tunneled, what you need to do is opposite from demanding every answer from me to your questions, it’s actually seeing me interact with other people.

But you said I'm scum. So why are you even defending yourself? I am interacting with you, I am listening to you and willing to hear you out. Obviously I'm considering that you could be Town this is why I'm asking you things. Because if I was sure that you were scum I'd just place my vote on you and ignore you. You can even just answer me a single question: Why are you saying I might consider you scum when you think I am scum? Where is the logic in that?

 

[Dragomir]

I almost never tinfoil, Oda being killed because he was obvious town is the most simple and probable explanation there is.

I can go into why each point that you made is inherently flawed and is nothing any more likelier to catch you a scum than rand chance, but if I did, then I’d be scum for invalidating your points.
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I am interested in talking with Okosan, Shottie and Trafalgar this day phase, I think we all should. They are most likely null or are somewhat controversial slots.

Nah, not it really isn't. If mafia would want to kill someone ppl think are town then they would kill me. I was being town read by every single player except one. Trying to go after obvious townies and not killing me makes no flipping sense. So, his kill was definitely more than just "let's kill an obvious townie."

Anyway, I won't be speaking here for several hours. I have shit to do that requires my current attention.

 

[Waindo]

Vote Lynch @Waindo

Interesting.

So you, Teddy, Gambo and Oko? Poor Gambo probably the only one strategizing along with Teddy in scum PM.

 

[Stray Cat]

Interesting.

So you, Teddy, Gambo and Oko? Poor Gambo probably the only one strategizing along with Teddy in scum PM.

Probably not Oko. Nessos seemed genuinely frustrated and even subbed out. But Gambit and Ted.

 

[Oreki]

Interesting.

So you, Teddy, Gambo and Oko? Poor Gambo probably the only one strategizing along with Teddy in scum PM.

If you have a bye to say to your friends in mafia Pm say it now.... you won't get a second chance
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@Waindo did you read the thread?

 

[Waindo]

Probably not Oko. Nessos seemed genuinely frustrated and even subbed out. But Gambit and Ted.

I didn't even catch up to that frustrated part.
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If you have a bye to say to your friends in mafia Pm say it now.... you won't get a second chance
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@Waindo did you read the thread?

Notice how I'm ignoring you rn?

 

[tedxtr]

Interesting.

So you, Teddy, Gambo and Oko? Poor Gambo probably the only one strategizing along with Teddy in scum PM.

Actually I’ve scummed with Gambit one time and he wasn’t even talking

Truth is I got lynched Day 1 but still

 

[Oreki]

Actually I’ve scummed with Gambit one time and he wasn’t even talking

Truth is I got lynched Day 1 but still

The lynch was by me in that game

 

[Waindo]

Actually I’ve scummed with Gambit one time and he wasn’t even talking

Truth is I got lynched Day 1 but still

Ahh, just that one time eh. Poor Teddy, well that explains the elaborate tl;dr half minute replies, you had the whole PM to yourself to sketch out everything. Nice.

 

[tedxtr]

The lynch was by me in that game

How dare you

 

[Oreki]

@tedxtr why do you read Rej Town

 

[Stray Cat]

Also, Ted, can you explain why you don't mind Gambit sheeping you on my wagon? Like...I'd be concerned if I was Town and in your place tbh. Also funny you two always vote for the same people and didn't vote for Juliet last DP. Just a few things for tinfoiling.

 

[tedxtr]

Also, Ted, can you explain why you don't mind Gambit sheeping you on my wagon? Like...I'd be concerned if I was Town and in your place tbh. Also funny you two always vote for the same people and didn't vote for Juliet last DP. Just a few things for tinfoiling.

I’m not really sure there’s any conscious thought that makes me okay with him voting for you other than the fact I’m town reading him. You should push for him to answer it, because you’re scum reading him.
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@tedxtr why do you read Rej Town

I might underestimate him but I don’t think this is Rej’s wolf game. Should I be more cautious with him?

 

[Stray Cat]

I’m not really sure there’s any conscious thought that makes me okay with him voting for you other than the fact I’m town reading him. You should push for him to answer it, because you’re scum reading him.

I'm scum reading you both, so I'm pushing for you to answer your behaviour. What makes you Town read him? What got the thought in your mind that he could be Town? Since you backpedalled on Michelle, how does her exchange with Gambit affect your reads? That's apparently Town vs Town for you, so what does it make TvT in your view? Does it still make Gambit Town in your view?

 

[tedxtr]

I'm scum reading you both, so I'm pushing for you to answer your behaviour. What makes you Town read him? What got the thought in your mind that he could be Town? Since you backpedalled on Michelle, how does her exchange with Gambit affect your reads? That's apparently Town vs Town for you, so what does it make TvT in your view? Does it still make Gambit Town in your view?

Thanks for not treating me like locked scum with these questions. Now you’ve created an environment where, if we’re both town, I don’t have to get annoyed at loaded questions, and risk spite voting among each other and endless tunnels and a lack of desire for cooperation. This is a very valid line of questioning.

I didn’t really look too attentively into Michelle v Gambit, I only remember Michelle’s vote on him. I will look into it in the morning (probably - it’s 00:34 here and I plan on going to sleep in a bit)

The reason I’m town reading him is because of his first tunnel on you. I find it very weird for him to push you like that if he was scum. The argument I’ve given was that, my mental map of how a wolf would tunnel someone in his first few posts in order to gain credit would be to single in on one specific point / post that looks very scummy / can be twisted easily in something really scummy. That’s why I perceived his tunnel on you to be town.

Another thing that I like is his tone and there’s this general lack of self-awareness that I like.

Having played with him as scum, this was nothing like his scum game, and probably that’s why I put so much stock into this. Does he often tunnel as scum? Do you think he’s firmly within his scum meta still?
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For clarification, Gambit’s tunnel on you stemmed from what i would characterize as indignation, and the approach he had towards you matches this emotion from his tunnel, which makes it a lot more likelier to be town. I’ll develop on it in the morning probably.

 

[Stray Cat]

Thanks for not treating me like locked scum with these questions. Now you’ve created an environment where, if we’re both town, I don’t have to get annoyed at loaded questions, and risk spite voting among each other and endless tunnels and a lack of desire for cooperation. This is a very valid line of questioning.

I didn’t really look too attentively into Michelle v Gambit, I only remember Michelle’s vote on him. I will look into it in the morning (probably - it’s 00:34 here and I plan on going to sleep in a bit)

The reason I’m town reading him is because of his first tunnel on you. I find it very weird for him to push you like that if he was scum. The argument I’ve given was that, my mental map of how a wolf would tunnel someone in his first few posts in order to gain credit would be to single in on one specific point / post that looks very scummy / can be twisted easily in something really scummy. That’s why I perceived his tunnel on you to be town.

Another thing that I like is his tone and there’s this general lack of self-awareness that I like.

Having played with him as scum, this was nothing like his scum game, and probably that’s why I put so much stock into this. Does he often tunnel as scum? Do you think he’s firmly within his scum meta still?

See, now we're talking. I find it very unusual for him to become so agitated. Wai and Gambit as well as joby have a very entertaining play style, usually they are not very angry. So for me that alone feels off already. As Rej said, Gambit is an entertainer who fails to entertain this game. Since Michelle is a strong Town read for me, still my strongest so far, I find it very unusual why Gambit would be jumping at her throat so quickly simply because she was asking him a question. Add to this him jumping on my train for no reason and what I stated before regarding the Ona kill it makes me feel he's scum.

 

[tedxtr]

I didn’t really think of Gambit as angry, are you strictly referring to his spontaneous tunnels when saying that?

 

[Oreki]

I might underestimate him but I don’t think this is Rej’s wolf game. Should I be more cautious with him?

Yes. As to why that is, I'm not too sure myself. I just feel it's not Rej true intention... Ahh, I just can't accept his reads. While it's different from the sense of disorientation felt from Juliet's yesterday, he just seems to not in the right track. Also, his questions are unworkable. I don't get what he was trying to get when he asked Juliet to give her reads just before her lynch knowing her two suspects are Gambit and Me. I just felt like that question wasn't needed.

 

[tedxtr]

I’ll look more in-depth on Rej in the morning, but I’d like the content to be focused around the subs mostly. Shottie and Okosan.