[FIN] Traditional Mafia Round 7: Final Fantasy XII- The Mafia Age

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Oh, would you look at that? Well, Nova, my rationality tells me that you're reading too much into my post, it's no big matter. So you shouldn't worry too much. No matter how I see it, "The scummiest scum here" post was nothing more than my lame attempt of a joke. To begin with, my post tone with my question to Naomi had nothing to do with the former, tone-wise. I made my entrance and saw I saw Naomi tagged me and then asked her why she would ask me such a question.

You could call it curiosity. The post It totally doesn't indicate the tone of the other post. While I might not be aware of how do you define "forced" and "genuine" tone even I could tell that this was completely off the mask. You have ought to have known from my playstyle that I do make jokes like that and always ask a question in this tone since I am direct about what I want to ask and what I do not.

So why did you thought the post tone was conflicting with each other? If it's there some high level of perception, reason, and theory.. then there must be some other meaning which I've not gotten. Or it was simply me not wanting to admit that your post has no meaning... No, I don't like to believe that. Yet looking at "Why would I rebuff and ask her question", I suddenly understood why you trying to look into my post too much. But no you still don't convention I and the way you trying to put an ideal image of town disturb me to hell like as if you're trying to put that image to every player mindset to let them know what Oreki is doing is scummy and not townie because no way in the hell every player gonna play the way you're trying to put your ideal image of a town. That just fucking bullshit you come up with.

W-Why you, getting all cocky. There's no way you have read this much into my post, No fucking NO! At any rate, this was me we're talking about. Thinking deeper, "your question" could be right. But no it's not how I approach Naomi question has nothing that it provides.... I simply asked her because I had not read on gambit and hell if players expect me to give read on by one post... they're for the let down here and I simply asked Naomi question in return because her question doesn't strike me right so I rather want to see her reason since it will pretty obvious I can't give read on someone this early when they only had 1 or 2 posts.

As expected from your question, which has no basis whatsoever.
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Obviously. Her reason based on my questions but I am pretty sure if I would have said "I have no opinion on gambit so far" she would have either ignored my post or posted something like i see, we'll see or something like that since there is no way she can reply anything else to that
This will depend on her answer and how she would have asked. You should obviously know that.


From your words, it was as if you some sort of special ability to deduce the truth all the time. I don't mind being questioned for such silly reasons, but the fact remains that you concluded your own conclusion out of my two posts one with being fluff. Yes, I do make jokes as scum but as the town I am even more laid back and fluff a lot contrary to my scum self who engage in discussion a lot on purpose just to make it look like... look at me I am solving the game and giving reads.

When a player has habit of joking and does a lot of fluff you can't make a conclusion for them so easily out of their early game post. I don't like that way of thinking. I guess I'm not the type to go deep in someone posts like that and start forging question after questions which hold little so value.


You've been constantly giving reasons how the town would act in this situation, how the town would approach, how town do this do that, and whatnot. I couldn't shake off the feeling that you're saying something dangerous. Like you're using these terms as a surprise attack to force your opinion and argue to me because what all you said what town do and what town does not is putting your ideal image of a town.

Hate to break to you but this, not a cold tone, how do you even define cold tone? I was speaking in a casual town... I don't even know anymore how you perceive posts...

Simply stating maybe I don't want to understand with your reasons but no I simply disklike your reasons here

I just answered you why I did not give my opinion on Gambit because this will do me no good and I first like to know why would she even ask me that question knowing I would not give any opinion on gambit with his one post
Yes, I have been scum a few times on Trad but I thought it was host thing whether they want for only night phase or for all the time.


Because I'm pretty sure if I would have given my opinion my post would have been ignored, forgotten, no one would have bet an eye why Naomi asked that question, and knowing what I will reply I simply got to the point.


Fair enough. You could say that I am not being laid back here, you are trying to establish my behavior here but I am not the type either just to sit back and not reply to someone. I don't ignore when someone trying to engage with me in a discussion... I am laid back as long as someone doesn't try to have beef with me otherwise I can indeed engage in discussions.


Yes, that's what I am calling your ideal image of a town... the thing I do not match the qualities of your town behavior it pings you but at the same time, you've been not considering that every player has their own ideal image of a town you can't dismay my post just because you think my posts do not meet the qualifications of your town image.

I am here to establish my true self not someone ideal image of the town. You could fire all sorts of questions at me, but the answers I could give weren’t really anything that you think is great. No? There’s nothing particularly special about our argument here. I imagine it's not all that different from two kids bickering over a toy if I say so.

At the very least I have my own way of engaging and trying to find a scum... I am not really all that attention seeker and try to be in the spotlight, that ain't just my style. But you're here for a rude awakening my friend(Literally).


It was my genuine question to her question... I am not really all that deep thinker and try to go too deep into these questions... I ignore all the terms and directly ask my question.


I got no opinion on this... let say at first I got the impression you were trying to ill portrait me here and make me look bad. You could say the only real reason I could come up with was so stupid that I didn't want to credit it. Because I see more options for you to make paint some bad rather than me with all-out discussion war.
 
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Lmao... I asked why being defensive is a bad thing you're just quoting my message back to me. Keep on going you may find a reason to paint me scum
 
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Mat voting for the person who is the second most possible lynch what can be scummy than that
@Mat D. Bizzo how being defensive is bad thing?


Why are you so helbent on wifom? I have stated my reasons why I sus you, you always being on the defensive and scum shading people cause they find you sus is only more sus. Cause you probbly have something to hide...
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Lmao... I asked why being defensive is a bad thing you're just quoting my message back to me. Keep on going you may find a reason to paint me scum
Oh, but I have been quite vivid. Also, I am just playing your game is all. I like to entertain.. what did you call it.. ah:
....because yes, I hated his reason to core
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Why are you so helbent on wifom? I have stated my reasons why I sus you, you always being on the defensive and scum shading people cause they find you sus is only more sus. Cause you probbly have something to hide...
I don't quite follow what you're trying to say, Mat. Isn't Hayumi suspecting everyone who sused her? How come your primary suspect no longer important to you? And here you're when I asked why being defensive is a bad thing you calling it Wifom... are we even sure what Wifom anymore? Or just a word we want to throw around to refute others' points?
 
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Anyways, I will follow what my precious town goes with, not to or to lynch me, I gladly oblige, this will shade some light on all the scum in the votes :cathug:
 
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Keep on going you may find a better reason than that...
 
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@Hayumi i think this is the post
I'd put him in the orange pile for now I think, his frustration in the long exchange is kind of giving me pause a bit, it felt genuine.
I am not fan of coloured reads and so the word orange didn't strike me as important. But the word genuine did.
More like a townie annoyed of being suspected for what he believes to be stupid reasons rather than scum annoyed at being caught. There seem to be a small cultural clash and also misunderstanding about like shit flinging and generating reads immediately to get stuff going.
Here is the sentence who made me think at his town read for Oreki
It's not completely alignment indicative though, could be another kind of scum frustration and just part of his range. I didn't like how he was wishy washy in regards to his read on me when we were interactive, feels like he tried first to softly push an angle that I'm pushing from scum PoV so that I'm scum but then it went nowhere. I'm not sure exactly where he landed, and his handling of Naomi is still a bad look for me.
And i will agree i didn't read the second part because was too close to Eod and I didn't have time for it.

I never read the thread overnight, because i am usually busy and i need a break so I didn't notice the last part until now.

Though, being the idea that Nova is most probabaly killed by Drago, the suspicion that Nova had for Oreki is not important in analysing the NKs.
 
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I don't quite follow what you're trying to say, Mat. Isn't Hayumi suspecting everyone who sused her? How come your primary suspect no longer important to you? And here you're when I asked why being defensive is a bad thing you calling it Wifom... are we even sure what Wifom anymore? Or just a word we want to throw around to refute others' points?
You, you only see what makes sense to you dont you...wifom extraordinaire.
 
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Anyways, I will follow what my precious town goes with, not to or to lynch me, I gladly oblige, this will shade some light on all the scum in the votes :cathug:
Give your scum team my regard.... just tell them to chalk it up to bad luck for encountering Oreki
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You, you only see what makes sense to you dont you...wifom extraordinaire.
More like what you don't wanna reply to is Wifom lol
 
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@Michelle I see you on early before.

Btw, all you had to do was clear first misunderstanding instead of what you just did. Problem solved!
Can you now answer at my questions?
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I still want to know why I am being sussed... where are the fucking facts??? F.A.C.T.S??
This is an over reaction tbh.
I didn't Iso you yet, but i have a question: why do you atack your wagon instead trying to understand why is formed?
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Give your scum team my regard.... just tell them to chalk it up to bad luck for encountering Oreki
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More like what you don't wanna reply to is Wifom lol
>.//.<hahahahahaha ..

I hate town, Worse, I hate being town.
Can you now answer at my questions?
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This is an over reaction tbh.
I didn't Iso you yet, but i have a question: why do you atack your wagon instead trying to understand why is formed?
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Iso away fine sir. How is it an over-reaction? I just want people to give solid facts why they sus me, unless if you dont read or cant process right, I have plastered reasons as to why I found/find my sus people sus.... all I get is this effing b.s " i just dont like him.... i hate his reasoning to thecore"... where are some of the facts? Is it too much to ask for, some engaging reasoning for starters?
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If mafia killed Dragomir, I think the most sus are people who interact with Dragomir. I'll look at his interactions on D1
some super red herring shit here...hmm
 
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I'd try another path, until i can have time to read the Isos of Oreki and Mat

Vote Normalizer

too many tips learned by reading Wiki tbh..
look at these posts and tell me who plays like this his second game
Rej also agree that he is sus list

I think because Ryu Kishi wants players to sus him.

I also think that you might be jester but maybe that's your playing style.
How do you know how a jester plays/should play?
What is happening? 1 townie and 1 SK died?
I won't derp clear for this.
2 kills 1 is SK and 1 is townie. So the killer is Vigilante and mafia. Why are there many votes on Mat?
why this progression?
It seems people voted Mat because Dragomir sus him before he died. I'll look for another candidate.

Vote Mat D. Bizzo
in between
So mafia killed SK (Drago) and Drago killed Nova(townie). it is possible. Vigilante usually doesn't shoot on D1 but there might be other scenario.
how do you know when vigilante usually does or doesn't shot?

I find this extremely scummy because all these thoughts can't be picked up by reading wiki.
 
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Michelle's argu against Norm is somewhat on point.. But i stick with oreki.
 
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When I am by I always shoot no matter the night unless restricted. However that's me, so we will go with Mafia killing Drago as rej is so certain of.

Hayumi for me is suspicious, he was up for Lynch d1 but somehow it went to waindo, which I don't understand because there was nothing sus about him. And hayumi jumping on that Lynch is the most suspicious of all the voters.

Then we got normilizer who believes everyone is a jester( I'm over exaggerating).
First of all jester's are not that common in trad(as far as I know) so I doubt you will find one in this game. So why mention it? A possible reason is to distract but seeing as he is apparently new I will give him the benefit of the doubt.

So that is why my vote goes to


Vote Lynch hayumi
 
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I'd try another path, until i can have time to read the Isos of Oreki and Mat

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too many tips learned by reading Wiki tbh..
look at these posts and tell me who plays like this his second game

How do you know how a jester plays/should play?

I won't derp clear for this.

why this progression?

in between

how do you know when vigilante usually does or doesn't shot?

I find this extremely scummy because all these thoughts can't be picked up by reading wiki.
I noticed that too,
 
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To be honest, I give up on reasoning with anyone here, some say don't quote me, some vote me for a gif, some consider everything I say wifom... Lmao.

Sanji consider that I killed nova but when most clues say it was drago... Go on... I just give up
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So don't fucking reason with me here, wifom, gif, killing nova say whatever the hell you want to say...
 
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When I am by I always shoot no matter the night unless restricted. However that's me, so we will go with Mafia killing Drago as rej is so certain of.

Hayumi for me is suspicious, he was up for Lynch d1 but somehow it went to waindo, which I don't understand because there was nothing sus about him. And hayumi jumping on that Lynch is the most suspicious of all the voters.

Then we got normilizer who believes everyone is a jester( I'm over exaggerating).
First of all jester's are not that common in trad(as far as I know) so I doubt you will find one in this game. So why mention it? A possible reason is to distract but seeing as he is apparently new I will give him the benefit of the doubt.

So that is why my vote goes to


Vote Lynch hayumi
*When I am vig
 
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To be honest, I give up on reasoning with anyone here, some say don't quote me, some vote me for a gif, some consider everything I say wifom... Lmao.

Sanji consider that I killed nova but when most clues say it was drago... Go on... I just give up
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So don't fucking reason with me here, wifom, gif, killing nova say whatever the hell you want to say...
Ive provoked you enough, really, nothing gives, you, just as Nova had said, are just a shit townie.
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We need to narrow down on someone, you could keep your votes on me and have -1 townie ofc ... I dont like Hayumi+Normalizer, neither do I like Rej's play.. and there was that moment where he and Normalizer linked up perfectly. Oreki is just shit at this game but he's hones frustration has me sold.

Im town reading Naomi and Michelle for now
 
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I'd try another path, until i can have time to read the Isos of Oreki and Mat

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too many tips learned by reading Wiki tbh..
look at these posts and tell me who plays like this his second game

How do you know how a jester plays/should play?

I won't derp clear for this.

why this progression?

in between

how do you know when vigilante usually does or doesn't shot?

I find this extremely scummy because all these thoughts can't be picked up by reading wiki.
That is a weak case to build me as scum. What's wrong with warning everyone for potential jester.

Is it wrong to make a speculation what happened last night by mentioning vigilante?
 
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