[FIN] Traditional Mafia Double Dethy(Filler Round

[Fallen Prince]

@Nessos Gambit voted for me not RAILGUN

tbh Shion looks a bit townier than @Samael for example

also where is @Fallen Prince I barely noticed him
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gimme a smoke

I am reading the thread unfortunately got busy with my wotk in real life.

Hos long do we have time ? I am barely active in salem game as well.

Its better for me to understand the mechanics since we are playing with logic pattern of cop invests.

 

[Nessos]

@RAIL_GUN was killed!
RAIL_GUN was a Cop

Day 2 has started!

Spoiler: tags

1. @Salah Eddine
2. @Rej
3. @joby
4. @Gambit
5. @Hayumi
6. @oddoddfruit
8. @Beky
9. @Fallen Prince
11. @Shion

 

[Gambit]

LOL. Looks like scum got threatened by Rail.

Anyway, targeted Beky - guilty.

 

[joby]

I investigated the royal prince gambit. I got innocent

 

[Beky]

I investigated Rail and got Inno

 

[Salah Eddine]

Thanks Goone, you made it much Easier

So first things first:

Fallen Prince is 100% Confirmed Goon, here is why:

Spoiler: Fallen Prince Confirmed Goon

Spoiler: Results from D1

Shion Cop ---> Salah Naive or Sane & Hayumi Paranoid or Insane
Shion Goon ---> Salah Naive or Insane & Hayumi Paranoid or Sane

RAIL_GUN Cop ---> OOF Naive or Sane & Gambit Paranoid or Insane
RAIL_GUN Goon ---> OOF Naive or Insane & Gambit Paranoid or Sane

Beky Cop ---> RAIL_GUN Naive or Sane & Samael Paranoid or Insane
Beky Goon ---> RAIL_GUN Naive or Insane & Samael Paranoid or Sane

Fallen Prince Cop ---> Joby & Beky & Shion Naive or Sane
Fallen Prince Goon ---> Joby & Beky & Shion Naive or Insane

OOF Cop ---> Rej Naive or Sane
OOF Goon ---> Rej Naive or Insane

Hayumi Cop ---> Fallen Prince Paranoid or Insane
Hayumi Goon ---> Fallen Prince Paranoid or Sane

As you can see only 4 Players can be Paranoid, all remaining Players cannot be
We have Hayumi, Gambit, Fallen Prince & Sam
Only 2 of them can be Paranoid Cops & 2 others are definitely Lying
Sam is confirmed Cop so he is our First Paranoid Cop

Since Fallen Prince was targeted by some D1, it made it easy:

1. If Fallen Prince is Goon then Joby, Beky & Shion cannot be Sane Cops which leaves us with "Sane" among Salah, Rej, RAID & OOF
2. If Fallen Prince is Cop then Joby, Beky & Shion cannot be Insane Cops which leaves us with "Insane" among Same Four above

Let's take second one "Fallen Prince is Cop" for example:
Here are all Possibilities for Insane Cops among those Four:

Salah & OOF ---> Shion & RAIL_GUN are Goon ---> Contradiction because only 1 Goon Left
Salah & RAIL_GUN ---> Shion & Beky are Goon ---> Contradiction
Salah & Rej ---> Shion & OOF are Goon ---> Contradiction
OOF & RAIL_GUN ---> RAIL_GUN is Goon ---> Contradiction
OOF & Rej ---> RAIL_GUN & OOF are Goon ---> Contradiction
RAIL_GUN & Rej ---> Beky & OOF are Goon ---> Contradiction

So we conclude that Fallen Prince cannot be Cop because it always leads to "Contradiction"

And ofc other Goon is between Gambit & Hayumi (Today's Results should reveal which one most probably)

Now for Final Goon:

He should be among the Remaining Seven Players (Six now since RAID is dead)
Since Fallen is proven Goon, then 2 Sanes are among Salah, OOF, Rej & RAID
I visited Fallen today & got Guilty so i confirmed myself as Sane Cop
Thus confirming Shion too from D1 Results

Final Goon is among Joby, Beky, OOF & Rej
Today's Result should also reveal this

 

[oddoddfruit]

I targeted joby and got guilty

 

[Fallen Prince]

Hey wassup , I got guilty on oddoddfruit

 

[joby]

I targeted joby and got guilty

You got inno on Rail, so are you saying I’m scum?

 

[oddoddfruit]

So if I targeted Railgun yesterday and got inno on a cop that means I can't be paranoid or insane, I targeted joby today and got guilty that means I can't be naive. So from my point of view that leaves the only option being I am sane cop and joby is 100% goon
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You got inno on Rail, so are you saying I’m scum?

Logic says you are a 100% a mafia goon or I am lying, it's definitely one of the two of us

Vote joby

 

[joby]

I’m gonna wait until more results are in before I start lobbing allegations since I’m either naive or insane cop apparently.

I invested @Fallen Prince night one and got innocent. Now they are outed as scum thanks to @Salah Eddine. I got innocent on gambit, so either he is scum or I am naive cop.

 

[Fallen Prince]

Thanks Goone, you made it much Easier

So first things first:

Fallen Prince is 100% Confirmed Goon, here is why:

Spoiler: Fallen Prince Confirmed Goon

Spoiler: Results from D1

Shion Cop ---> Salah Naive or Sane & Hayumi Paranoid or Insane
Shion Goon ---> Salah Naive or Insane & Hayumi Paranoid or Sane

RAIL_GUN Cop ---> OOF Naive or Sane & Gambit Paranoid or Insane
RAIL_GUN Goon ---> OOF Naive or Insane & Gambit Paranoid or Sane

Beky Cop ---> RAIL_GUN Naive or Sane & Samael Paranoid or Insane
Beky Goon ---> RAIL_GUN Naive or Insane & Samael Paranoid or Sane

Fallen Prince Cop ---> Joby & Beky & Shion Naive or Sane
Fallen Prince Goon ---> Joby & Beky & Shion Naive or Insane

OOF Cop ---> Rej Naive or Sane
OOF Goon ---> Rej Naive or Insane

Hayumi Cop ---> Fallen Prince Paranoid or Insane
Hayumi Goon ---> Fallen Prince Paranoid or Sane

As you can see only 4 Players can be Paranoid, all remaining Players cannot be
We have Hayumi, Gambit, Fallen Prince & Sam
Only 2 of them can be Paranoid Cops & 2 others are definitely Lying
Sam is confirmed Cop so he is our First Paranoid Cop

Since Fallen Prince was targeted by some D1, it made it easy:

1. If Fallen Prince is Goon then Joby, Beky & Shion cannot be Sane Cops which leaves us with "Sane" among Salah, Rej, RAID & OOF
2. If Fallen Prince is Cop then Joby, Beky & Shion cannot be Insane Cops which leaves us with "Insane" among Same Four above

Let's take second one "Fallen Prince is Cop" for example:
Here are all Possibilities for Insane Cops among those Four:

Salah & OOF ---> Shion & RAIL_GUN are Goon ---> Contradiction because only 1 Goon Left
Salah & RAIL_GUN ---> Shion & Beky are Goon ---> Contradiction
Salah & Rej ---> Shion & OOF are Goon ---> Contradiction
OOF & RAIL_GUN ---> RAIL_GUN is Goon ---> Contradiction
OOF & Rej ---> RAIL_GUN & OOF are Goon ---> Contradiction
RAIL_GUN & Rej ---> Beky & OOF are Goon ---> Contradiction

So we conclude that Fallen Prince cannot be Cop because it always leads to "Contradiction"

And ofc other Goon is between Gambit & Hayumi (Today's Results should reveal which one most probably)

Now for Final Goon:

He should be among the Remaining Seven Players (Six now since RAID is dead)
Since Fallen is proven Goon, then 2 Sanes are among Salah, OOF, Rej & RAID
I visited Fallen today & got Guilty so i confirmed myself as Sane Cop
Thus confirming Shion too from D1 Results

Final Goon is among Joby, Beky, OOF & Rej
Today's Result should also reveal this

I am not sure on this it could also mean you are insane my friend .
Too much into conclusion it could be contrary that can lynch a innocent cop . Your result can also be Insane cop as well !!

Lets add into the table and verify i dont think i am scum .

 

[Salah Eddine]

If OOF is telling the Truth then Joby is our 3rd Goon, Problem Solved
But if he is Lying then that means either Rej or RAIL are the Second Sane Cop with me
The problem is that if Rej is Sane then OOF is indeed Cop which is contradiction

So the only way OOF could be lying is if RAIL is Sane which makes Beky confirmed Cop
That means in this case we should believe Beky's Results
He said he targeted RAIL & got Inno so he cannot be Insane, Beky in this case is Naive

So in either cases, Beky is Confirmed Cop
Final Goon is among Joby, OOF & Rej

 

[Beky]

Dude i got inno on fallen and Rail.

 

[Beky]

Im either Sane or Naive

 

[oddoddfruit]

Salah, would voting me off and me flipping Cop proving that I'm sane give us a 100% win?
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or vice versa, voting joby off and proving that I am sane cop or lying goon, would that give us a 100% win?
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There are zero holes with the logic from my point of view, for everyone else the statements I have made mean either I am Mafia, joby is Mafia or we are both Mafia. There are no other possibilities

Railgun is confirmed cop

N1 oddoddfruit - (Railgun is inno)
N2 oddoddfruit - (joby is guilty)

I can't be paranoid because I got an inno on Railgun, paranoid always gets guilty
I can't be naive because I got a guilty on joby, naive always gets inno
I can't be insane because I got an inno on Railgun, insane would get guilty on a confirmed cop
If I'm lying then I am mafia
If I'm sane then joby is mafia

 

[Rej]

Heya I have soon feierabend guys.

I have guilty on oddodd, I cant be naive thus I must be sane.

So is it OOF - Fallen - Joby being goons?
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Why is joby being suspected?

vote lynch oddoddfruit @Nessos

 

[oddoddfruit]

Heya I have soon feierabend guys.

I have guilty on oddodd, I cant be naive thus I must be sane.

So is it OOF - Fallen - Joby being goons?
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Why is joby being suspected?

vote lynch oddoddfruit @Nessos

You could be insane, meaning you will get guilty on cops but I am not against that vote

 

[Shion]

Killing Rail sounds like a very amateur move, there was no need to kill him off so early. In my opinion we should look into the targets he was pointing out because at least 1-2 of them would definitely be scum.

As for my investigation, I got guilty on Beky

 

[oddoddfruit]

Ok so Rej, I need to bring this up

This was on day 1

My target was oddodd.

What was your result on me?

Inno!

This is day 2

I have guilty on oddodd,

Are you saying that you invested me on two different days and got two different results?