Other General Pokemon Discussion

[Emperor Cross]

Sinnoh Starter have excellent design but bad types

 

[Guren]

Sinnoh Starter have excellent design but bad types

I'd like to say they're the most balanced starters out of all the gens. Empoleon is a defensive monster, Infernape one shots pretty much anything it comes across if it goes first. And Torterra can easily sweep as well with the right set up. It is the 'weakest' of the 3 maybe but compared to the other games I can't think of a more well rounded line up than those three.

 

[The Fool]

For me the worst starters ever
Meganium (The worst Starter) & Delphox (Should've been Fire/Fairy not Psychic)

Who are your worst starters? @Guren @Cross

 

[tlgRen]

I don't like Chesnaught, or Emboar much.
S/V's 3 are all pretty good though. Got a sweeper that needs no setup (Grass), a setup sweeper (Water) and a bulky tank/sweeper.

 

[Ziosa]

meganium and emboar are the worst; both have no good features. Meganium is suppose to be defensive but having a solo grass type makes it terrible in this role. Emboar is the third fire/fighting starter, and is easily the weakest of them

 

[tlgRen]

meganium and emboar are the worst; both have no good features. Meganium is suppose to be defensive but having a solo grass type makes it terrible in this role. Emboar is the third fire/fighting starter, and is easily the weakest of them

True, but I like Meganium's design it edges out and doesn't fall in my bottom two. Chesnaught is just ugly and dies to a pidgey. D:<

 

[Ziosa]

True, but I like Meganium's design it edges out and doesn't fall in my bottom two. Chesnaught is just ugly and dies to a pidgey. D:<

the only way to redeem Meganium is fangames/rom hacks that give it a mega

never played X/Y so never used any of them

 

[tlgRen]

the only way to redeem Meganium is fangames/rom hacks that give it a mega

never played X/Y so never used any of them

Chesnaught supposed to be a tank too, but Grass/Fighting means it hilariously weak to flying, and still has ice/fire/psychic/poison/fairy to worry about to.

 

[Ziosa]

most grass tanks arent great tbh, Mega Venusaur is only good as it gets thick fat and Ferrothorn is good because steel is an OP defensive type

 

[The Fool]

True, but I like Meganium's design it edges out and doesn't fall in my bottom two. Chesnaught is just ugly and dies to a pidgey. D:<

I agree with @Ziosa on this with Meganium it was practically useless, even Sunflora the worst pokemon in the entire game was more useful

 

[Guren]

For me the worst starters ever
Meganium (The worst Starter) & Delphox (Should've been Fire/Fairy not Psychic)

Who are your worst starters? @Guren @Cross

Worst starters for me are Seperior, Inteleon and probably Delphox. But the last one is purely from a design fire/psychic isn't that bad of a typing imo.
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And yeah Meganium but that's pretty obvious

 

[Ziosa]

i did a normal playthrough of black 2 a few months ago and used serperior; it gets like no good moves

 

[tlgRen]

It only has Contrary Leaf Storm going for it. Not really good for in-game.

 

[The Fool]

i did a normal playthrough of black 2 a few months ago and used serperior; it gets like no good moves

subseed though overgrown Serperior isn't that good but competitively its Contrary SubCoil/SubSeed ones are threats

 

[Ziosa]

subseed though overgrown Serperior isn't that good but competitively its Contrary SubCoil/SubSeed ones are threats

its gets grass and normal moves; and thats basically it lol

being decent in a playthrough should be a priority for a starter; the final moveset on mine was so bad i barely used it

 

[The Fool]

its gets grass and normal moves; and thats basically it lol

being decent in a playthrough should be a priority for a starter; the final moveset on mine was so bad i barely used it

I had Sub/Coil/Dragon Pulse (Leaf Storm with Contrary) and Leech Seed.

 

[Ziosa]

I had Sub/Coil/Dragon Pulse (Leaf Storm with Contrary) and Leech Seed.

doesnt even get dragon pulse in black 2

 

[The Fool]

doesnt even get dragon pulse in black 2

its from a move tutor in black+white 2

 

[Ziosa]

its from a move tutor in black+white 2

oh yeah, one of the shard guys

shouldnt need to use a move tutor to get another decent move though lol, every starter should have 3/4 moves that are good for them without needing stuff like TMs or move tutors

 

[The Fool]

oh yeah, one of the shard guys

shouldnt need to use a move tutor to get another decent move though lol, every starter should have 3/4 moves that are good for them without needing stuff like TMs or move tutors

Serperior could do as a Light Screen/Reflect/Coil/Leech Seed stall-ish seeing as Serprior Overgrow had not much use compared to the MT and Contrary that took up a notch