Spoilers One Piece Chapter 970 Spoilers

[crazyclown]

Guys guys, Zoro's family name is Rorona so his dad is probably not from Wano, his mom can still be a Shimotsuki (maybe some sort of minor branch family) making Zoro a diistant relative to Koushiro and distant-distant relative to Ushimaru and Yasuie.

Ashura got stabbed in the back, was he distracted and was looking the other way or is there an actual traitor. Hard to believe the traitor can pull this off without anyone noticing, so far no indication of there being a traitor this time round imho.

Also King's fire power might come from his unique race, other ancient zoans don't have them i think. I bet Kinemon will have a major hand in King's defeat in the current timeline.

 

[Gambit]

Having no sign of Denjiro is alarming.. Did he by any chance stab Ashura in the back?

In thr anime, he was shown hand in hand with Ashura against Kaido..

 

[Lemonade]

Guys guys, Zoro's family name is Rorona so his dad is probably not from Wano, his mom can still be a Shimotsuki (maybe some sort of minor branch family) making Zoro a diistant relative to Koushiro and distant-distant relative to Ushimaru and Yasuie.

Ashura got stabbed in the back, was he distracted and was looking the other way or is there an actual traitor. Hard to believe the traitor can pull this off without anyone noticing, so far no indication of there being a traitor this time round imho.

Also King's fire power might come from his unique race, other ancient zoans don't have them i think. I bet Kinemon will have a major hand in King's defeat in the current timeline.

Having no sign of Denjiro is alarming.. Did he by any chance stab Ashura in the back?

In thr anime, he was shown hand in hand with Ashura against Kaido..

I thought King stabbed Ashura...

 

[crazyclown]

I thought King stabbed Ashura...

Probably, but it looks like a pretty weak, fodder level stab, might just be Orochi's/Kaido's footsoldier overwhelming them with numbers.

 

[Gambit]

Probably, but it looks like a pretty weak, fodder level stab, might just be Orochi's/Kaido's footsoldier overwhelming them with numbers.

It pierces through. And Ashura almost lost it.. Look at his eyes.. I don't see it as a weak stab

 

[Lemonade]

So Oden would have killed Kaido if it weren't for the stupid criminal Kurozumi interfering and distracting him. What a dirty play

I want to know how the old Kurozumi criminals died. Hopefully someone slaughtered them. And i hope Orochi is the last Kurozumi alive and dies this Act to completely eradicate the Kurozumi disease once and for all

 

[Salah Eddine]

Btw there was no fight between Kaido & Oden, the Spoiler Provider made a mistake
It's just as u saw in pics, Oden jumping and scarring Kaido and right after that, he is distracted by Momo and then Kaido finish Oden with single attack in his Human Form

Honestly it's amazing feat for both, as Oden succeeded in hurting Kaido in his Dragon Form, something that Luffy & everyone else failed to do, but he still got down by a single Attack just like Luffy which shows how truly dangerous Kaido is

PS: seeing how Kaido can knock down Oden with a Single Attack, Old Sick WB with 2 attacks temporarily knocking down Akainu & BM too easily defeating Luffy & Queen even when extremely nerfed, i wonder when we will finally see Shanks doing a similar feat !!!!

 

[DarkWitch]

From Sandman.
Got my Jump.

Kaido and Beast Pirates wait for Oden in ambush.
Oden didn't imagine this situation because he was planning to kill Kaido sleeping drunk.

Kaido laughs and implies a traitor exists in Oden's castle.

Kaido tells Oden that he is similar to Roger and Whitebeard, who are/were strong but naive at the same time.

Contrary to the rumor Kaido has heard that Oden is crazy, Oden decided the choice where nobody in Wano gets hurt. Otherwise, the battle against Oden and Co. would be hard for Kaido.

Shinobu is safe thanks to Oden's lie.

 

[Nessos]

Looking at the korean scans it seems like 971 will also continue with the flashback.

 

[crazyclown]

Saw the korean scan, whos the lady with the paper crane? Is that otsuru? Why is she shown so suspicious? the hell.

 

[Nessos]

You could be right. I’m not saying I’m right that Ushimaru is a relative from Zoro, I just believe he is, it’s a mere assumption and he could be his relative.

On the other side, you could be right as well since Kouzobaro leaved Wano with Zoro Parents/Grandparents could also be right, it makes sense.

Let facts beside, my guts feeling says to me Ushimaru is relative from Zoro and Zoro is a Shimotsuki.

We will see who was right, nevertheless this was a good discussion with you. Remembered my on the Old Days were I discussed a lot on OroJackson

Take care it’s time to sleep, it’s midnight in Germany so I have to sleep

I am German too ^^

Also thought about the possibility that Kozaburo was the dad of Zoro making Zoro the son of a blacksmith.
But the problem with this is for me that it wouldn't really fit with the Village being named after the Blacksmith and Not after the Leader of the Dojo.

Another important point is Zoros Family name which was mentioned by crazyclown

Guys guys, Zoro's family name is Rorona so his dad is probably not from Wano, his mom can still be a Shimotsuki (maybe some sort of minor branch family) making Zoro a diistant relative to Koushiro and distant-distant relative to Ushimaru and Yasuie

I see nonreason why they should hide the name Shimotsuki. And the mother being a Shimotsuki would end up being to convenient to me.

And the most important point for me is the Sunacchi plot. With this Oda clearly gibt's a connection between Zoro and Kuri. And it could actually be connected to the Kurozumi plot. Right now I tlwould put my bets on Zoro being a Kurozumi (selfexplained why parents would try to hide that name) or a forgotten clan that taken out even before Fuugetsu, Amazuki and Uzuki.

But well I can be wrong and overinterpret things. I also expect that we won't get the answer before the end of Wano Arc...

 

[crazyclown]

I see nonreason why they should hide the name Shimotsuki. And the mother being a Shimotsuki would end up being to convenient to me.

And the most important point for me is the Sunacchi plot. With this Oda clearly gibt's a connection between Zoro and Kuri. And it could actually be connected to the Kurozumi plot. Right now I tlwould put my bets on Zoro being a Kurozumi (selfexplained why parents would try to hide that name) or a forgotten clan that taken out even before Fuugetsu, Amazuki and Uzuki.

But well I can be wrong and overinterpret things. I also expect that we won't get the answer before the end of Wano Arc...

Zoro a Kurozumi? Interesting, anyway i don't think Zoro's heritage will be central to the plot, it might be mentioned in the closing of the arc like Luffy's heritage in post enies lobby. Haha we are all overinterpreting things here, its fun to bounce ideas around.

Now back to the spoilers, while Tsuru's panel is suspicious indeed, however in the present timeline, apart from the fact that Tsuru said she recently moved to Okobore Town (where did she live before?), nothing about her is suspicious, in fact we even see her inner thoughts and it shows her being loyal and supportive of the Kozuki Clan.

 

[Nessos]

Zoro a Kurozumi? Interesting, anyway i don't think Zoro's heritage will be central to the plot, it might be mentioned in the closing of the arc like Luffy's heritage in post enies lobby. Haha we are all overinterpreting things here, its fun to bounce ideas around.

Now back to the spoilers, while Tsuru's panel is suspicious indeed, however in the present timeline, apart from the fact that Tsuru said she recently moved to Okobore Town (where did she live before?), nothing about her is suspicious, in fact we even see her inner thoughts and it shows her being loyal and supportive of the Kozuki Clan.

New spoilers say Kaidou mentions that there is a traitor in Odens castle.
Looks like we get confirmation that traitor was already active 20+ years ago.

 

[Emperor Cross]

In the french trad. Kaido is saying that they needed the population to lose faith in Oden. If at his return, he decided to fight everybody would have follow him. They were happy to see that he wasn’t the egoistical person he was seeing that he cared about the population. But now he is a disgrace. Villagers even say at the end of the chapter that he was too late and mock him.

 

[Trafalgar Law]

New spoilers say Kaidou mentions that there is a traitor in Odens castle.
Looks like we get confirmation that traitor was already active 20+ years ago.

My bet is on Kiku

 

[#1 tako]

http://imgur.com/a/CeHZSV7

 

[crazyclown]

My bet is on Kiku

Hmm I'm against this cause it really put a wrench on the conspiracy theory i subscribe to, that Hiyori/Komurasaki and Denjiro/Kyoshiro is jebaiting Orochi by feeding him intel but for the greater good of the alliance.

Also, idea that one of the scabbards has been a traitor from 20+ years ago until now without anyone noticing/suspecting a thing is kinda unrealistic even for one piece standards. The traitor will be someone close, but not THAT close. If it is indeed one of the scabbards then that guy deserves a worse fate than Orochi.

 

[Beky]

I am a bit underwhelmed by Kaidos full Dragon form. Yea sure damage output is high but his defence is just garbage.

Like i dont see the point of going Dragon form so often considering your human skin is much tougher and your damage even then is quite big.

So yea i expect more from his DF

 

[Trafalgar Law]

Hmm I'm against this cause it really put a wrench on the conspiracy theory i subscribe to, that Hiyori/Komurasaki and Denjiro/Kyoshiro is jebaiting Orochi by feeding him intel but for the greater good of the alliance.

Also, idea that one of the scabbards has been a traitor from 20+ years ago until now without anyone noticing/suspecting a thing is kinda unrealistic even for one piece standards. The traitor will be someone close, but not THAT close. If it is indeed one of the scabbards then that guy deserves a worse fate than Orochi.

Well...they got in time travel immediately after fight , so not so much time to notice !

 

[Salah Eddine]

Yea sure damage output is high but his defence is just garbage.

I find it weird that you're underestimating Oden's attack tbh