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[Ziosa]

Only problem is his durability imo. When using fruit power most of his stats are at 120 and Prudence isn't going to make ya level 90 (and add 120k exp for the awakening)....



Difference between beating in a fair challenge and killing. Akainu and Kiji fought because there was no other way.

unless you were going for the fruit, it would just be a normal fight and not to the death lol

 

[Kaka]

@Ranger I know Magu is, was asking about Hie. xD

@tlgRen That's what it does lol. That's like saying Mera should be higher rank cause it can burn people. xD

@Ziosa How strong the canon user is shouldn't determine the rank of the DF necessarily. Foxy is a nobody but his DF can stop time. If that DF was in a strong person's hands it'd be stronger than most others. xD

Edit: In fact even Oda said the same thing in the very link Ranger provided above. xD

 

[tlgRen]

@tlgRen That's what it does lol. That's like saying Mera should be higher rank cause it can burn people. xD

I mean freeze is generally a more powerful status effect so it stands to reason the power that grants it be valued higher.

 

[Kaka]

I mean freeze is generally a more powerful status effect so it stands to reason the power that grants it be valued higher.

Where is freeze a more powerful status effect?

Even in Pokemon burn is better lol.

 

[Ziosa]

@Ranger I know Magu is, was asking about Hie. xD

@tlgRen That's what it does lol. That's like saying Mera should be higher rank cause it can burn people. xD

@Ziosa How strong the canon user is shouldn't determine the rank of the DF necessarily. Foxy is a nobody but his DF can stop time. If that DF was in a strong person's hands it'd be stronger than most others. xD

it would be based off other factors too, but some are definitely due to the user. without seeing what doffy did, string fruit wouldnt be considered anywhere near as good lol.

give a DF to a player who has some good ideas and it doesnt really matter what rank it is, it can still be great. the tier is just to show how generally good they are, and definitely wouldnt be used to say this person wins due to his DF being a better rank.

taking the canon of mera vs hie at least shows they can clash without one instantly overpowering the other. aokiji having more stats and awakening makes him a threat no matter your DF

 

[Kaka]

it would be based off other factors too, but some are definitely due to the user. without seeing what doffy did, string fruit wouldnt be considered anywhere near as good lol.

give a DF to a player who has some good ideas and it doesnt really matter what rank it is, it can still be great. the tier is just to show how generally good they are, and definitely wouldnt be used to say this person wins due to his DF being a better rank.

taking the canon of mera vs hie at least shows they can clash without one instantly overpowering the other. aokiji having more stats and awakening makes him a threat no matter your DF

Oh, definitely. I've pretty much being saying all of this all along. xD

And of course Aokiji would be a threat. All I said is, I like my matchup. Mera vs Hie is obviously a better matchup for me than Mera vs Pika, or Mera vs Magu, or something else.

But at the end of it all, you can't freeze fire, but you can definitely burn ice. So it'll simply come down to landing attacks. Or you know, finding a way to stab him with a Seastone Knife. XD That's always a good alternative.

 

[Ziosa]

Oh, definitely. I've pretty much being saying all of this all along. xD

And of course Aokiji would be a threat. All I said is, I like my matchup. Mera vs Hie is obviously a better matchup for me than Mera vs Pika, or Mera vs Magu, or something else.

But at the end of it all, you can't freeze fire, but you can definitely burn ice. So it'll simply come down to landing attacks. Or you know, finding a way to stab him with a Seastone Knife. XD That's always a good alternative.

you have to buy seastone weapons so do that before fighting him if thats your strategy lol

 

[tlgRen]

you have to buy seastone weapons so do that before fighting him if thats your strategy lol

He does have enough money to buy one with the stipend we WURPers got. o:

 

[Kaka]

you have to buy seastone weapons so do that before fighting him if thats your strategy lol

Yep I know. xD

I'll still see what I wanna buy.

I just bought my Akainu nametag.

#AkainuClub>Aokiji
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How do I get more salty doubloons? xD

 

[tlgRen]

A seastone sword is useless since it'd just dull the blade. So I'm definitely not buying one (for Shiro at least).

 

[Kaka]

A seastone sword is useless since it'd just dull the blade. So I'm definitely not buying one (for Shiro at least).

Erm... just coat the backside of it? That way the blade still cuts and when you stab them the Seastone is still inside them. Simple >_>

 

[Ranger]

@Ranger I know Magu is, was asking about Hie. xD

@tlgRen That's what it does lol. That's like saying Mera should be higher rank cause it can burn people. xD

@Ziosa How strong the canon user is shouldn't determine the rank of the DF necessarily. Foxy is a nobody but his DF can stop time. If that DF was in a strong person's hands it'd be stronger than most others. xD

Edit: In fact even Oda said the same thing in the very link Ranger provided above. xD

oh I missread

its because we are assuming that the Hie is to the Magu what the Mera is to the Yuki. At least that is what I think. Is the Yuki S tier? I dont remember... @Ziosa

 

[Kaka]

It's A tier. And I really don't think comparing snow to fire would make sense. Ice barely makes the argument. xD

 

[Ziosa]

It's A tier. And I really don't think comparing snow to fire would make sense. Ice barely makes the argument. xD

i think he is using it as way to say its a superior version like what ice is to snow, so therefore while magu=hie and mera=yuki, hie>mera might make some sense too. but that doesnt mean it is lol

 

[Kaka]

Ye that wouldn't make much sense. xD

I personally see Logias in 3 tiers.

1. Logias where the main power is the fact that you're a Logia (intangible, can often fly, etc) and not much else due to the element not being particularly dangerous (smoke, snow, etc.)
2. Logias where the element is dangerous, but there's not much else to the Logia (ice, magma, fire, sand, etc)
3. Logias where there is a sort of extra boost aside from the element itself (pika and goro due to speed (and goro due to compatibility with mantra), yami due to DF cancellation)

That's how I see it.

 

[Ziosa]

Ye that wouldn't make much sense. xD

I personally see Logias in 3 tiers.

1. Logias where the main power is the fact that you're a Logia (intangible, can often fly, etc) and not much else due to the element not being particularly dangerous (smoke, snow, etc.)
2. Logias where the element is dangerous, but there's not much else to the Logia (ice, magma, fire, sand, etc)
3. Logias where there is a sort of extra boost aside from the element itself (pika and goro due to speed (and goro due to compatibility with mantra), yami due to DF cancellation)

That's how I see it.

magu at least should be in 3. it has immense power and is generally more dangerous than some of the ones in 2. It shouldnt just need another boost to be considered one of the best Logias

 

[Ichimonji]

Since Ren is taking Moku, I re-made my host request to Tequila Wolf. If someone is available to host it, I’d appreciate it.

 

[tlgRen]

What is your new target? (Fruit)

 

[Ichimonji]

No DF target in Tequila Wolf. Just mayhem.

 

[tlgRen]

Mayhem is always good.

Also, I feel like Shiro was (unintentionally) designed to tick all of the "Pisses Leo Off" boxes. xD