[FIN] Traditional Mafia The Gang Plays Mafia [Mafia Championship Practice]

[Stray Cat]

Oreki is Town. His reasoning behind his Nessos' isoing seems genuine to me, that's something you cannot fake tbh.

 

[tedxtr]

Expand on this.

It's a holistic thing. Admittedly I only skimmed in isolation a few posts and looked at tone - a few posts meaning literally 10 posts from his first page. In that game he seemed to throw shit around based on a gut feeling, but here he does seem like he skips a few steps in his approach. There's some mental blockage for him to go guns blazing, it's more of a "pick a singular person that I feel bad about and gauge out reactions out of them"

I think he's broadly doing the same type of scouting, it's just that the follow-up on those reactions looks kind of iffy maybe.

Idk this will most likely get twisted by people, it's all I got. Plus, he feels way too much on top of things in a way that's unnatural. After getting pushed he just joked with Beky or something. I feel like him as a town would be a lot more reactive on the people pushing him, due to him being mislynch material (mislynch material is taken from his word, also his language is making me believe he's often times mislynch)

On a more logical note, the people having experience with him should determine whether he's scum or town, and if he is town, then the scum are in the people pushing for his lynch right now.

I'm anchored to my case on Samael because I am - contrary to popular belief among my peers - rarely ever confident in a push, and Samael is the lynch in which I have the most confidence right now, because what he did was typical scum push.

 

[Juliet]

Loved reading your post. And I have no problem ending up.being a misslynch as long as Town manage to find scum through it!
Mafia is about winning and not about surviving! Cautious player are the scummiest for me.

I think Nessos could be town for saying this. Nessos said he has no problem being a misslynch and every time when I see a post like this, most of the time the player turns out to be town who doesn't mind being misslynched and wants town to make sure we lynch correctly next day. Town who doesn't mind being misslynched shouldn't give up and they should still defend themselves.

Wrong. A vanilla is only worth a vote. Early game numbers do not matter, that is why you need the towncore. Scum then decides if they let the towncore live or if they get shot. Thats easy. Dont forget this is a vanilla game and town follows a 1:4 ratio but the usual 1:3 ratio you have in madness games with an Indie.
So yes mislynches here are more infolynch than in a RM game. It is almost impossible to PROPERLY hunt all 3 mafia goons down in D1.

Forming your own town core is good and you also need to be careful you don't put a scum player on your town core. Don't forget that scum can also form their own town core too and when scum form their town core they will make room for mislynch options for town who are not in the town core.

 

[Oreki]

Give me the long explanation.

Sorry, but I don't really in the mood of writing one. But can we skip that now and go right to the conlusion?

What do you think of Nessos' first post where he points out Beky and Michelle open buddying?
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What do you all think about Juliet?
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Right now I think the scum is between

Joby
Poison
Gambit
Nessos
Juliet

My reads will change based how will game move

 

[Onadaga]

I don't think Juliet has fully layed out their cards on the table, similarly to Poison Chan, so I don't think you can be confident on a read on them yet

 

[Nessos]

Ona, how about you vote Samael with me? Rej, you could vote as well.

After having briefly skimmed Nessos' town game I no longer feel confident in my previous town lean, although I still feel bad about the lynch somehow.

May I ask what did you figure out?

 

[Stray Cat]

I think Nessos could be town for saying this. Nessos said he has no problem being a misslynch and every time when I see a post like this, most of the time the player turns out to be town who doesn't mind being misslynched and wants town to make sure we lynch correctly next day. Town who doesn't mind being misslynched shouldn't give up and they should still defend themselves.



Forming your own town core is good and you also need to be careful you don't put a scum player on your town core. Don't forget that scum can also form their own town core too and when scum form their town core they will make room for mislynch options for town who are not in the town core.

I would say the same, but in this case he would still try to contribute and deduce who is scum, so that this correct lynch you speak of could occur. But all I see is him voting Beky for voicing his justified (!) suspicions on him and he is not actively scum hunting. That's a huge flag there tbh.

 

[Onadaga]

You seem to be on the fence a lot with your reads and aren't very clear. Tell me, what is it? Gambit town or wolf?

I missed this

I don't know. I'm trying to figure it out

 

[Rej]

Forming your own town core is good and you also need to be careful you don't put a scum player on your town core. Don't forget that scum can also form their own town core too and when scum form their town core they will make room for mislynch options for town who are not in the town core.

But the art is knowing that scum will let someone alive, you can either way forsee how scum will kill next or predict it over DP interaction.
Also reavulating towncore - non towncore interaction, because scum will dynamize there. And I think it is exciting knowing scum sits in the towncore, they have the trigger and that is why the game reaches stages as LyLo or MyLo. So yes, the earlier things get rolling, the earlier town can predict and that way PRs can make it to the crucial stages like LyLo or MyLo. Just look how many shots our JOATs have. They are designed to be protected by the towncore.
#bigbrainstatements

 

[Onadaga]

Man I wrote and deleted a post 10 times now I can't decide if I wanna post it. It's so dumb but I then at the same time I'm town so like who cares

 

[Stray Cat]

Sorry, but I don't really in the mood of writing one. But can we skip that now and go right to the conlusion?

What do you think of Nessos' first post where he points out Beky and Michelle open buddying?
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What do you all think about Juliet?
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Right now I think the scum is between

Joby
Poison
Gambit
Nessos
Juliet

My reads will change based how will game move

Hunch says she's Town because I liked her entrance. But that's just that, a hunch.

 

[Onadaga]

YOLOswag

I feel like Gambit is one of the JOATs, that's why I think he's a bit smug about getting a wagon on him. Cuz he knows he isn't getting lynched. So we should probably not push him cuz it will make him claim, and we don't want the scum to know that he's one of the JOATs!

I can see him being either JOAT or scum faking the confidence. I don't think he's VT

 

[tedxtr]

Oh my God.

 

[Onadaga]

*dabs*

 

[Oreki]

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That was a post of the year

 

[Stray Cat]

YOLOswag

I feel like Gambit is one of the JOATs, that's why I think he's a bit smug about getting a wagon on him. Cuz he knows he isn't getting lynched. So we should probably not push him cuz it will make him claim, and we don't want the scum to know that he's one of the JOATs!

I can see him being either JOAT or scum faking the confidence. I don't think he's VT

Pretty sure a valuable PR shouldn't do that. Risking a lynch is a very harmful move for a Town PR. Also, about his scum play. Dude faked an entire post restriction when he was scum once, he is the best faker around.

 

[Rej]

no PR speculations

 

[Onadaga]

I mean he's not risking it on purpose

 

[Gambit]

best faker around? LOL.
you dare to compare me to my retarted twin brother @Waindo.

 

[Stray Cat]

I mean he's not risking it on purpose

Tell me why he Town reads me when he has zero ground to do that, then we'll talk .
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best faker around? LOL.
you dare to compare me to my retarted twin brother @Waindo.

Now you're just being humble af. For that you get 0,01 Townie points .