[FIN] Traditional Mafia The Gang Plays Mafia [Mafia Championship Practice]

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She herself said she doesnt feel comfy playing as wolf. If you dont feel comfy playing as wolf yes you will do bad as wolf. You will be afraid to take risks needed to stand out to people. I played enough with people who dont like randing wolf and they all have 1 same characteristic - They dont take unnessecary risks
Wait wait wait, why should a wolf take an unnecessary risk when they're not necessary? That doesn't add up.
 

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He hasn't shown anything that could have made me reevaluate this read tbh. He's a strong scum hunter, but I don't see him scum hunting. There was no logic in his play.

His defensiveness towards me aside which could seem logical for a Townie there is no logic in his interactions with other players. His reaction towards a simple question from Michelle was not justified by anything. Just like him not defending himself when he was about to be lynched.
Honestly your interactions with Gambit are hiding him.
I picked up no reads from him because all his post were connected to your accusations and prodding. Anytime he had an original thought you buried it...
 

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Wait wait wait, why should a wolf take an unnecessary risk when they're not necessary? That doesn't add up.
Drago you're not very good at back reading play by plays....
 
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Oh Drago.. LOL.. He said that SK Drago isn't equal to Drago here... Funny thing is, he has been using the same tactic.. Questioning people about their thoughts on the matter.. Fasciliating the crowd into his plans.. Playing the leader but not actually one. Seeking GTH from a player.. But where are his takes actually?
I said that SK Drago isn't equal to Mafia Drago. SK Drago is the same as town Drago, I think I said that too. So what are you talking about my guy?
 
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I was so wrong this game. I wholeheartedly agree with Shottie right now and I think she's so right. At least on Drago and Waindo.
 
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Well, if my initial gut feeling was right....

Vote lynch Juliet

If she flips town tho you can't use this Vote against me cuz I ain't the one who is snowballing it.:weirdpeep:
This pre-emptive defense is actually quite bad.

Waindo, why did you feel the need to do that?
 

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Wait wait wait, why should a wolf take an unnecessary risk when they're not necessary? That doesn't add up.
You need to read what it says there a bit better
 
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I was so wrong this game. I wholeheartedly agree with Shottie right now and I think she's so right. At least on Drago and Waindo.
You whole heartedly agree with a lot of ppl, however the wind blows in the given moment.

@Dragomir i initially metad Jules as scum, but as I said, you can't draw a target on me over that cuz I ain't the one who snowballed his lynch.
 
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There is no flow in your scum hunting...
You were suspecting Joby (Shottie) and Gambit since early DP1.
Got engaged with Nessos
Voted for Juliet and Ona...
D2 you again started with Gambit
Voted for Ted

Vote for Gambit or Shottie , made case against them and convince us to vote for one of them...
I already said I don't think Shottie is scum anymore. As for Gambit, I can start from the beginning..


It all started with him answering "Wrong! It's me" towards Rej stating he is the Towniest Town.

Nothing wrong with that, but then I stated just my first impressions from each player I had at that time and he was jumping at my throat.

The next flag he raised by stating...
"Do you think scum would even answer in the slightest?"

The usual "would scum do that question" which is WIFOM and straight up not needed when you're Town.

He also buddied with joby yet somehow people ignore that.

Next thing is he became overly defensive when Drago just asked him a question.

He voted Michelle for no reason and acted like she was gonna shade throw...like what? Where did her post even remotely imply shade throwing?

Then he said he doesn't care about getting lynched.

He said he can read Oreki as scum, but how did he not notice he was acting scummy?


Also, his lynch wagon was derailed for some reason.


And this DP he jumped on my lynch wagon quickly.
 

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I was so wrong this game. I wholeheartedly agree with Shottie right now and I think she's so right. At least on Drago and Waindo.
I'm still hesitant to put Drago as my 3rd scum pick.
This is supposed to be championship game test and if I read Drago correctly as scum after just 1 dp then that's just awful play...
 

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@Dragomir i initially metad Jules as scum, but as I said, you can't draw a target on me over that cuz I ain't the one who snowballed his lynch.
How on earth did you meta juliet as scum when...
True, I didn't have time to iso Jules. Most of my posts were to cause chaos and get reads from that chaos. :datea:
 
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I'm still hesitant to put Drago as my 3rd scum pick.
This is supposed to be championship game test and if I read Drago correctly as scum after just 1 dp then that's just awful play...
Whats your read on other nominees Rej and Stray ?
 
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I'm still hesitant to put Drago as my 3rd scum pick.
This is supposed to be championship game test and if I read Drago correctly as scum after just 1 dp then that's just awful play...
That's a very very weird mindset to have, especially when I was town read by a majority of the players D1. By no means does you having a correct scum read makes it that I played bad. It just says that you played well and your read was right.
 
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I already said I don't think Shottie is scum anymore. As for Gambit, I can start from the beginning..


It all started with him answering "Wrong! It's me" towards Rej stating he is the Towniest Town.

Nothing wrong with that, but then I stated just my first impressions from each player I had at that time and he was jumping at my throat.

The next flag he raised by stating...
"Do you think scum would even answer in the slightest?"

The usual "would scum do that question" which is WIFOM and straight up not needed when you're Town.

He also buddied with joby yet somehow people ignore that.

Next thing is he became overly defensive when Drago just asked him a question.

He voted Michelle for no reason and acted like she was gonna shade throw...like what? Where did her post even remotely imply shade throwing?

Then he said he doesn't care about getting lynched.

He said he can read Oreki as scum, but how did he not notice he was acting scummy?


Also, his lynch wagon was derailed for some reason.


And this DP he jumped on my lynch wagon quickly.
Who are your other sus so far...and would you prefer Gambit's lynch over them...
 

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Whats your read on other nominees Rej and Stray ?
No offense y'all!!!

Rej would make people rage quit :ROFLMAO:
Stray may get mislynched if she keeps tunneling and hanging on to one person.
 
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You whole heartedly agree with a lot of ppl, however the wind blows in the given moment.

@Dragomir i initially metad Jules as scum, but as I said, you can't draw a target on me over that cuz I ain't the one who snowballed his lynch.
Please quote who I have ever agreed with on for something.
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Other than Michelle scum reading you and Shottie scum reading both you and Drago, of course.
 
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Stray may get mislynched if she keeps tunneling and hanging on to one person
By mislynch , I assume you are giving town read to Stray..
What do you have to say about the read , person who you subbed for..
(His only detailed read)
Hey y'all lol had to catch up on 9 pages.

So, lots of early reads and exchanges of subtle info/personality cues--so regardless of alignment this is a really good start, because there is a lot of information being generated very early.

I'm getting strong towny vibes from @Onadaga (Hi!) and warmish(getting hotter) town vibes from @Beky since they both preemptively created an environment for people to feel comfortable to speculate and name names.
And scum can stick out because their speculation always has an agenda behind it, and this early on I don't think any townie has an agenda other than gathering info.
So Beky putting pressure on stray feels very townie to me--just the way he pressured her feels different from scum trying to make someone look bad.


This post set off a red flag for me. Its very TMI, and while Ona's GTH reads were basically happening naturally during conversation--stray's all seem to have an angle they are going for--something I'm being led towards but never taken quite all the way.
Bolded read on me obviously makes me feel bad--and I truly truly believe that Stray would sleep better at night if I got offed no matter my alignment. So I can't say either way how her read on me paints her this game, because stray's literally always trying to get me killed LOL
But the bolded in red of Onadaga is very very suspicious to me. Every part of it is accusatory when taken in isolation:
He's "Quick to judge"(as opposed to "fast reads" or how beky gets "trusts his meta reads" instead of "quick to judge")
"could be their experience"(negging)
..."but also TMI"(accusatory and basically saying "you should consider this person as a day one/two lynch")

Its hard tho because stray always comes out fists up and ready to rustle--no matter her alignment. I still think this is worth keeping an eye on.

i had to.

I will say that my gut intuition says stray going after my "too pure" entrance is opportunistic and shallow as fuck. bad kitty!

I've made this mistake with stray before. She's a very stubborn player (like me) and she is tenacious as fuck (the way she handled all the pressure y'all threw at her was nuts) It's a war of attrition with deep wolf Stray, she got that luffy stamina

I'm really not trying to come off as tunneling on stray, but what you just stated is what stray does best--especially as scum

please expand on what you are getting at with this

literally me every game and it always gets me killed RIP me :catpuke:
 
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I'm still hesitant to put Drago as my 3rd scum pick.
This is supposed to be championship game test and if I read Drago correctly as scum after just 1 dp then that's just awful play...
You might have a deeper insight into his gameplay. For example, I think he played well enough to avoid my radar for this game, as well as many other's. Nobody really scum read him D1 except for Oda, and he's dead.
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Dragomir, I feel like you gained nothing from your re-read which is mind boggling. Some gth reads?
 
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Ay, I'm loving Ted's early interaction with Flower. That scum read was ballsy and he was frustrated af with Flower's play. I like it.
 
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