[FIN] Traditional Mafia The Gang Plays Mafia [Mafia Championship Practice]

[Beky]

That's why I unvoted my trigger happy vote on Teddy after my a bit hasty read on him, especially when folks like you and Oreki (better lynch candidates) appeared.

If i am a better lynch candidate how come you never even made a case on me xd

 

[Stray Cat]

Can you explain to me what would stop him from trying to lead another wagon here? Leading the mislynch last DP doesn't mean shit. We all know that townies can be wrong and lead a mislynch. It's not that hard for Oreki to use that as a cover for being wrong. It isn't suicide by continue doing what he did. It'd be a lot worse if he just fell off a cliff after D1 and never tried as hard anymore.

None of this at all supports Oreki being town.

You know what would support Oreki being scum, though? You being Town. When you're Town you know you are getting mislynched. The fact you're arguing with Beky rn just shows you're the right lynch from a Town's perspective.

 

[Oreki]

@Dragomir If you're town then I think you're making no sense... because I feel like you're trying to have this specific value, image and gameplay of a town player and you refuse to accept anything else outside of that image of yours

 

[Dragomir]

Bcs its plain suicide to do so.
If you are scum and you manage to misslynch a townie - you stfu - you dont push your luck. Blend in, be productive but not the wagon leader.

If you go for the same play twice you are def getting policy lynched on D3 or vigged if there is one.

No, it's not suicide especially when people will wifom the read like this. Wolves can easily do things that people think no wolf would ever do and because of that wifom, they get town reads from it. I've seen it happen so many times and scum always wins at the end.

This town read on Oreki is dumb. Nobody will ever suspect a player for leading a mislynch as long as it wasn't an EoD redirect. Players know that townies can lead mislynches just as easily as a scum can. It's illogical to believe that you would get vigged or lynched for that. Never seen that happened before and that logic will always get shut down quickly.

 

[Dragomir]

You know what would support Oreki being scum, though? You being Town. When you're Town you know you are getting mislynched. The fact you're arguing with Beky rn just shows you're the right lynch from a Town's perspective.

I don't know what you're even saying.

 

[Trafalgar Law]

Since I nominated Drago ! I was expecting to stay in the game for long...will decide my vote , depends on his and Strays flip...
So far stray is doing better than him (doesn't matter their alignments)

 

[Dragomir]

@Dragomir If you're town then I think you're making no sense... because I feel like you're trying to have this specific value, image and gameplay of a town player and you refuse to accept anything else outside of that image of yours

Ok, prove it.

 

[Dragomir]

If lynch vote clapped early....Juliet had 5 votes in no time..

Ok, but how does a possible hammer stop you from obtaining other reads?

Unvote. I'm unvoting for the sake of just removing my vote. My read on Oreki is still the same.

 

[Stray Cat]

Basically this:

Oreki causes Juliet's lynch.
Oreki tries causing Drago's lynch.


Drago (if Town): Oreki tries lynching a Townie again, he must be scum.

Drago (if scum): Argues back and forth.


The point is if you were Town you have zero reason to assume Oreki is Town. So arguing with Beky rn would be pointless.

 

[Dragomir]

Basically this:

Oreki causes Juliet's lynch.
Oreki tries causing Drago's lynch.


Drago (if Town): Oreki tries lynching a Townie again, he must be scum.

Drago (if scum): Argues back and forth.


The point is if you were Town you have zero reason to assume Oreki is Town. So arguing with Beky rn would be pointless.

Beky is arguing that Oreki is town because he's trying to lead another mislynch. I'm arguing that he's wrong and it doesn't make Oreki scum. So, I was never assuming Oreki was town.

Also, the bold is just plain old bad logic Flow.

 

[Beky]

No, it's not suicide especially when people will wifom the read like this. Wolves can easily do things that people think no wolf would ever do and because of that wifom, they get town reads from it. I've seen it happen so many times and scum always wins at the end.

This town read on Oreki is dumb. Nobody will ever suspect a player for leading a mislynch as long as it wasn't an EoD redirect. Players know that townies can lead mislynches just as easily as a scum can. It's illogical to believe that you would get vigged or lynched for that. Never seen that happened before and that logic will always get shut down quickly.

Drago

Every scum i know and saw that managed to misslynch someone didnt push their luck. Once you miss lynch someone you will get pressured and pushed for. You will draw attention to yourself. And lets say you manage to shake it off. You do it again? Oh you will def be dead by the end of D3 .

Even if you are a townie - you will get taken out just bcs your reads are obv crap and destructive for town.

There is NOTHING positive to gain from miss lynching twice. ABSOLUTELY NOTHING

 

[Beky]

And in a game like this 3v12 trading 1 for 2 is so so bad

 

[Waindo]

If i am a better lynch candidate how come you never even made a case on me xd

Ain't I making it step by step as we go? Tbh you're making the case yourself.

 

[Beky]

Ain't I making it step by step as we go? Tbh you're making the case yourself.

Ah so your case on me is all smoke but no fire
Got it

 

[Waindo]

Ah so your case on me is all smoke but no fire
Got it

It was half smoke and some ember, you're the one that's blowing on it and making fire with your replies.

 

[Stray Cat]

Beky is arguing that Oreki is town because he's trying to lead another mislynch. I'm arguing that he's wrong and it doesn't make Oreki scum. So, I was never assuming Oreki was town.

Also, the bold is just plain old bad logic Flow.

How were you never assuming Oreki is Town when you just said you argued it doesn't make Oreki scum? Can you explain your thoughts like they make sense because you're all over the place.

 

[Trafalgar Law]

Ok, but how does a possible hammer stop you from obtaining other reads?

Read based on tendency of scums changing votes...(if player is also scum)

 

[Dragomir]

Drago

Every scum i know and saw that managed to misslynch someone didnt push their luck. Once you miss lynch someone you will get pressured and pushed for. You will draw attention to yourself. And lets say you manage to shake it off. You do it again? Oh you will def be dead by the end of D3 .

Even if you are a townie - you will get taken out just bcs your reads are obv crap and destructive for town.

There is NOTHING positive to gain from miss lynching twice. ABSOLUTELY NOTHING

Dude what? That is just not true. Oreki isn't being pressured for mislynching Juliet, literally nobody has brought that up concerning him. That automatically shuts this argument down. I have led mislynches multiple times and I never got pressured for them. You will never get pressured for leading a mislynch because people know that townies can very well lead them too.

Where have you seen that happen before? Town isn't allowed to use an argument like that simply because they were the ones that got convinced to join the wagon. They can't just turn back and say the wagon starter's reads were crap because they believed the same reads too.

I really do wonder where you have learned all this.

 

[Dragomir]

How were you never assuming Oreki is Town when you just said you argued it doesn't make Oreki scum? Can you explain your thoughts like they make sense because you're all over the place.

Flower, that was obviously a typo. I meant that it doesn't make Oreki town. Jesus.

 

[Stray Cat]

Flower, that was obviously a typo. I meant that it doesn't make Oreki town. Jesus.

You have some accurate autocorrect.