[FIN] Traditional Mafia The Gang Plays Mafia [Mafia Championship Practice]

[Waindo]

So are we voting Gag-omir or what? I got stuff to do.

 

[tedxtr]

@tedxtr you see this nonsense and you want me to ask the people that say my reasons are shallow?

My whole play is revolved around trying to find someone to work with and Stray is not a top contender for that.

I’ve concluded she’s town and I have a tendency of skipping past her posts or whoever she targets.
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So are we voting Gag-omir or what? I got stuff to do.

Can we lynch this already please

 

[Stray Cat]

Will you do it or not?


What the hell? I literally asked you for the evidence. How the hell is that brushing it off?

Are you fucking with me Flower? This is the big bad agenda that you're talking about? Oh my goodness...

You have yet to explain why you cherry picked a part of her post that makes her look suspicious out of the full context and not consider that long and elaborate post of hers that literally gives off the feeling you can grasp her thoughts in your reads, Drago. It's no damn rocket science to realize you're obviously not caring about her reasoning and use every little thing out of context you can find to paint her as scum.

 

[Oreki]

@Shottie besides me who you consider bad as if bad bad

 

[tedxtr]

If Waindo escapes a lynch this day phase I give up

 

[Michelle]

I am a mood based player. At that time I wasn't in the right mood. I was doing what I felt like. Now, I'm fine and sober. You may ask any question you'd like.

for me is almost midnight. I am not in a mood to ask complex things.
Your read on me you posted in the post with rainbow reads that Rej recently quoted is full of wrong reasonings, one being low activity from me.
while you say you didn't play being busy but ignoring the fact I may be busy too, so this works just in one direction?
Also the thing i am scum after the Gambit interaction and the fact I didn't provide reasons is fake.
Why you wanted details from me to just ignore them?

 

[Oreki]

It's like you didn't even read where I said I'm not basing it just on meta.

It's like you never read my reasons to lynch Juliet just the Juliet lynch part

 

[Okosan]

Coooooooo! (Alright so this might take a really long time / Okosan might start skimming or skipping a bit once he gets a little bit through and has all these initial reads set up already. Here are some highlights from Okosan's notes though. He'll try to keep these posts brief as until Okosan gets to more relevant posts he understands that a lot of this isn't relevant anymore

First 10 pages

Biggest Scum Reads: Ted and Oreki. As of right now Okosan really feels like there's always at least a scum between these two for a variety of reasons. First off Ted,

Spoiler: Ted

Basically this Ted read comes from two things Okosan has seen so far. First off is that Ted seems so... hesitant? The whole time. There's a lot of examples of this early. First Ted pushes Michelle by expressing a similar opinion as Ona did, but then backed off and seemed unsure about himself.

I mean I don't necessarily disagree with how you view it, I am just a little psyched out about how you went around your read and the confidence behind it, I guess.
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Good post if you're scum, because that made me feel less tempted to chase you.

This whole post reeks of not wanting to push anything too early with too strong of a read. Another example of this indecisiveness is here. This post is in regards to Rej pushing how ted came to the conclusion that Ona's town core was all correct, and that Stray was scum

I mean it’s not something insane to think about. I don’t see why a wolf would crumble there and try that hard to stand out unless town was doing incredible and Stray’s wolf buds weren’t there so she wanted to derail somehow. Discrediting the person building the flawless town core might create that reaction.

Basically, I don’t see a wolf spazing out there unless it’s for that exact reason. There was nothing else to be psyched out about, she wasn’t being pushed.

It was just something off the cuff I guess.
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I don’t think I scum read Stray anymore though, I’ll have more coherent and confident takes tomorrow, as said. Right now I’m observing until I fall asleep.

Notice though how Ted is infinitely more unsure abut explaining his read about the town core than about how Stray was scum. Ted was innately more confident about that, even if ted does go on to backtrack on it later in the post just a tad

Second off has to do with what Okosan just talked about with Ted pushing Stray Cat (who Okosan is reading as town btw) and how that seemed like the easiest push ever. Will get more into that later

Next off Oreki

Spoiler: Oreki

This read isn't as developed as Ted's and does rely on Ted's a little bit, but Okosan still feels it's worth mentioning. There are also two reasons for this read. First off is Oreki's first real post in this game.

Nah, that's not what Ted meant I think. Ted expressed his frustration over Rej trying to presume his alignment based on maths rather than his thought process. Ted was never based on maths it was Rej.

This is just such an odd post from Oreki as they're immediately coming into this game defending Ted's reasoning. This is honestly super scummy regardless of how Ted flips. Can either be Oreki over-explaining as they know Ted's thoughts are coming from a good place, or it could be defending a teammate. It's an universally bad post

Second off comes from the follow up to this post being

I was just expressing my own opinion and I did not say anything about his post doesn't sound genuine regardless frustration is also genuine emotion it just all depend on how you express it I suppose.

Inb4, I have only played one game with him where he was scum.

This reads over defensive as Oreki quickly trying to explain why both A) how they came to that read without any real push from anyone to explain it. And B) Just a tad backtrack-y as it's "just their opinion"

Next up Town Reads of note

Spoiler: Dragomir

With Drago Okosan has only seen a post or two from him so far, but honestly this is based off of just one post anyways. Specifically this one

Stray Cat is town. Lock it. Throw the key away. She better not flip scum on me.

So how do you actually feel about those players that are giving their reads like candy? You leaning any particular way? It sounds like you don't like them doing that but don't find it inherently bad. It's not really clear.

It's honestly EXACTLY how Okosan was feeling at the time. Stray Cat is town and Oreki needs to be pushed. Immediate yes reaction from Okosan

Spoiler: Stray Cat

Stray Cat Okosan is also reading town. Stray Cat early piqued Okosan's attention as they were very on the sidelines it felt like. Just commenting about this and that, but that's not necessarily a bad thing. First off Okosan just really liked Stray's tone and viewpoint. Okosan knows that doesn't really mean a whole lot, but Stray just feels town you know?

Furthermore even though some people weren't really a huge fan of how Stray was posting, when Stray has come forward with a read or push it's generally been what Okosan was feeling at the time too. A very early Michelle town lean (that didn't super last for Okosan, but still), picking up on ted around when Okosan was, general pushes throughout the game. Stray just is town

Spoiler: Gambit

Gambit is an interesting one. On first glance there's not a whole lot there that implicates Gambit as town, but Okosan is reading it a bit differently. First off, the argument that Okosan read through on D1 between Stray and Gambit felt very town on town. Was Gambit over defensive a bit? Sure. Is that really scummy, meh not particularly. Could very well just be town focusing on a read about themselves.

Second off Okosan actually found it really interesting how no one else has pushed Gambit at all. Maybe that'll change here soon, but it really feels like to Okosan that scum is too afraid to push Gambit early due to how easy a mislynch he is normally, and how early in the day it was. Seeming too eager that soon could really backfire. So GAmbit is lean town to Okosan

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[Dragomir]

Yep... She'd need more than that if she consider me mafia lol

Hey, I've made a post on you and Mich. Would you mind checking it out and telling me your thoughts?

 

[Oreki]

This is just such an odd post from Oreki as they're immediately coming into this game defending Ted's reasoning. This is honestly super scummy regardless of how Ted flips. Can either be Oreki over-explaining as they know Ted's thoughts are coming from a good place, or it could be defending a teammate. It's an universally bad post

Onad was mistaking or confusing with two posts... so I just did that in carrot order... so you're the one who reading this too much into it

 

[Waindo]

My whole play is revolved around trying to find someone to work with and Stray is not a top contender for that.

Mhm, so you're town and you are allegedly trying to find someone to work with. In this setup, where no one trusts no one, instead of working by yourself and poking everyone in the face with the stick until they say ouch. If you're town I'm going to grow a nail on my dick and scratch with it on my neighbours window everytime I missread someone.

 

[Trafalgar Law]

@Trafalgar Law do you actually scum.read me or do you just want to lynch me for info?

Finally you asked....

1. If you read my first read ...I town read you
2. I reread again , and saw you were shipping Samael's scum town play. When he only had one post and Red and Stray voted him after one post.
3. I pointed that and Samael , reply that he found you more scum.
4. That's how I got my eyes on you.
5. you were inactive and weren't pushing for scum hunting and mostly engaged with Michelle. Which I pointed out in my follow up reads...that's for DP 1 . You weren't in my scum list
6. Day 2 . You were inactive . I find it odd that you are not focusing on other players... specially missed you reads on other players.
7. I place you in my scum list at 3rd position with Stray and Oreki.
8. It seems Oreki was afraid of getting lynched . After my list. He voted for you and start wagon. Called me out for not pushing for you.
9. But in reality , you were not my prime sus. I didn't wanted to start lynch wagon early with less activity..
10. Unfortunately I got scum read by others , so I decide to go up your rank first...
11. I don't think I can get enough support against my other sus....your earlier response against Oreki was scummy...when he asked for your read , you should have done it. (I rejected myself tho) .
12. I reached the conclusion that you gave up...your lynch will spot some light on other..my other option is Stray...

 

[Michelle]

Will you do it or not?


What the hell? I literally asked you for the evidence. How the hell is that brushing it off?

Are you fucking with me Flower? This is the big bad agenda that you're talking about? Oh my goodness...

can you keep it civilised? Thanks.

Mhm, so you're town and you are allegedly trying to find someone to work with. In this setup, where no one trusts no one, instead of working by yourself and poking everyone in the face with the stick until they say ouch. If you're town I'm going to grow a nail on my dick and scratch with it on my neighbours window everytime I missread someone.

really?

 

[Oreki]

Hey, I've made a post on you and Mich. Would you mind checking it out and telling me your thoughts?

The one where you give us your read in really long paragraphs? Yes, I already have but I am not really know what to say about that and I don't really consider michelle good or bad so I don't have any take on that

 

[Waindo]

can you keep it civilised? Thanks.

really?

Sorry for the imagery but yeah, really.

 

[tedxtr]

Mhm, so you're town and you are allegedly trying to find someone to work with. In this setup, where no one trusts no one, instead of working by yourself and poking everyone in the face with the stick until they say ouch. If you're town I'm going to grow a nail on my dick and scratch with it on my neighbours window everytime I missread someone.

Mafia is a game where no one trusts no one and they start building towards trusting several people. Then you re-adjust as time moves on.

We need to estabilish a town block because not having one is losing us the game.

 

[Michelle]

Sorry for the imagery but yeah, really.

you can keep my vote for now.
Give me a reason for you to be villager and i will read it in the morning..You can start with answering at the wall I made when I voted you.

 

[Oreki]

@tedxtr what's your take on Dragomir

 

[Stray Cat]

Mafia is a game where no one trusts no one and they start building towards trusting several people. Then you re-adjust as time moves on.

We need to estabilish a town block because not having one is losing us the game.

Well, everyone is Town reading me, apparently, so that's one person less to suspect.

 

[Shottie]

@Shottie besides me who you consider bad as if bad bad

you can iso me this dp and see who I'm sussing. I haven't changed my reads.

It's like you never read my reasons to lynch Juliet just the Juliet lynch part

It's like you ignore my posts. I read your reasons to lynch juliet. Your reasoning was her feel about Nessos early last DP, where she didn't like how he was saying "lynch me". You made a case on that and chewed on it. And literally everybody else was going for nessos/gambit/oan/michelle.
And knowing how much history you and juliet have you trying to get rid of juliet makes a whole lot of sense. Your case for her was as flimsy as wet rice paper.