[FIN] Traditional Mafia Round 7: Final Fantasy XII- The Mafia Age

[Pepper]

Couple big ole dogs suddenly showed up my porch will likely take some time to get that sorted out before I get back online

 

[Normalizer]

So it might have been Naomi/Juliet who manipulated the votes. anyway hayumi is still my number one sus.

vote Lynch hayumi

Why Hayumi? Care to explain?

 

[Rej]

Your thoughts on Hayumi and Naomi/Juliet?

Hayumi scum the counterpart of Naomi/Juliet slot
Naomi/Juliet town that slot is quite thoughtful

 

[Waindo]

Hayumi scum the counterpart of Naomi/Juliet slot
Naomi/Juliet town that slot is quite thoughtful

U think Naomi subbed out out of frustration for missreading Oreki?

Who would be your 3rd sus along with Hayumi and Mat?

 

[Rej]

U think Naomi subbed out out of frustration for missreading Oreki?

Who would be your 3rd sus along with Hayumi and Mat?

that's angle shooting, but I don't know

I don't know many people play scummy, also Michelle is not pushing me as usual, hmm suspicious

wbu?

 

[Hayumi]

Interesting entrance. You had the one u subbed in as your top town read, how convenient.

Anyway, Vote lynch Mat D Bizzo

@Hayumi you unvoted Mat last min?

It wasn't last minute at all, if I remember correctly it was with at least over 2 hours left to spare, unless you consider that last minute, but I ended the dp with no vote because I was conflicted between Mat and Oreki at the time, and was expecting Mat to be the one lynched and flip scum, only for Oreki somehow to be mislynched instead. He had two votes on him, but apparently they somehow were counted as 4? Also, one reason I had unvoted Mat, was because Naomi was convinced me and him couldn't be on the same team, and said that if mat flipped scum, I should be cleared town, and if he flips town, I should automatically be lynched next, and I hated that type of logic and the type of angles Naomi had been using the whole game. On top of the fact that I was the very first person along with Oreki to vote Mat, and he built up a wagon on himself from people I didn't really like either, so that coupled with his seemingly somewhat genuine frustration had me like damn. "It may still be Oreki...this wagon has me unsure." But oreki was never my preference over mat, and then when he was somehow mislynched instead I realized I probably should have stuck with Mat. But the wagon on him was pretty fast and still iffy to me. But if he's town he threw all that suspicion on himself.

Either way Vote Lynch Mat

 

[Michelle]

U think Naomi subbed out out of frustration for missreading Oreki?

:facepalm ... never comment about susbs reasons, it's forbidden by rules -_-

that's angle shooting, but I don't know

I don't know many people play scummy, also Michelle is not pushing me as usual, hmm suspicious

wbu?

if you think i have any possibility to understand your recent play please point out what helps me to read you.
I honestly gave up to read you. Like idrc. Suspect me how much you like, but be careful if you are villager, this is backtracking ugly.
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It's 6 am and i can accept i am a completely idiot to play mafia at this hour

But i came back to point out a town read on Hayumi based on tone and flow of thoughts.of the above post. My gut read doubled by my logic.

And while i am at it, thanks for pointing out what i was too lazy to verbalise and reppresents a part of the reason i am voting Juliet.(the bolded below)

Also, one reason I had unvoted Mat, was because Naomi was convinced me and him couldn't be on the same team, and said that if mat flipped scum, I should be cleared town, and if he flips town, I should automatically be lynched next, and I hated that type of logic and the type of angles Naomi had been using the whole game.

@ me if you need me or if you think we need to vote only for Mat today, because just passsed through my mind that any other wagon can receive votes from his main wagon as reason of lynching Oreki instead Mat yday.
Idk if that makes sense in english

 

[Juliet]

What it looks like to me what Naomi was saying was on day 1 she saw Mat voted Hayumi on day 1. On day 2 Mat had 5 votes and Hayumi was one of the voters on Mat. Naomi's read looked like she was looking at players interactions and I saw she was town reading Mat.

 

[Pepper]

Good news, the doggos where picked up by their owners
and wow this game really slowed down

 

[Juliet]

It wasn't last minute at all, if I remember correctly it was with at least over 2 hours left to spare, unless you consider that last minute, but I ended the dp with no vote because I was conflicted between Mat and Oreki at the time, and was expecting Mat to be the one lynched and flip scum, only for Oreki somehow to be mislynched instead. He had two votes on him, but apparently they somehow were counted as 4? Also, one reason I had unvoted Mat, was because Naomi was convinced me and him couldn't be on the same team, and said that if mat flipped scum, I should be cleared town, and if he flips town, I should automatically be lynched next, and I hated that type of logic and the type of angles Naomi had been using the whole game. On top of the fact that I was the very first person along with Oreki to vote Mat, and he built up a wagon on himself from people I didn't really like either, so that coupled with his seemingly somewhat genuine frustration had me like damn. "It may still be Oreki...this wagon has me unsure." But oreki was never my preference over mat, and then when he was somehow mislynched instead I realized I probably should have stuck with Mat. But the wagon on him was pretty fast and still iffy to me. But if he's town he threw all that suspicion on himself.

Either way Vote Lynch Mat

I had to read this again and you said you ended the day with no vote and was expecting Mat to be lynched and flip scum only to see Oreki get mislynched instead. Why did you unvote Mat when you said you were expecting him to be lynched and flip scum?
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Was this a typo or?
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Why unvote a player expecting them to be lynched and flip scum or unvote them and expecting them to be town? Let's say x and y were your main suspicion both leading the wagon and your vote was on player x, you were not sure on x flipping scum so then wouldn't it make more sense to vote y instead of watching x get lynched for not being sure on x flipping scum?

 

[Mat D. Bizzo]

Ok so uh wtf. Why tf was Oreki still lynched over Mat. And how tf did his two votes from Naomi and Gambit equal four.

Well vote manipulation by Naomi seeing how gambit is revealed town. I figured Oreki was town after I purposely provoked him.
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Interesting entrance. You had the one u subbed in as your top town read, how convenient.

Anyway, Vote lynch Mat D Bizzo

@Hayumi you unvoted Mat last min?

Yo somewhat dense arent you?
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Nana
Rej
Normalizer
Juliet
Naomi.

Narrow down on those you will have your scum.

Peace suckers.

 

[Normalizer]

Well vote manipulation by Naomi seeing how gambit is revealed town. I figured Oreki was town after I purposely provoked him.
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Yo somewhat dense arent you?
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Nana
Rej
Normalizer
Juliet
Naomi.

Narrow down on those you will have your scum.

Peace suckers.

Sus people who sus you. That's not a good look in my book.

 

[Michelle]

Sus people who sus you. That's not a good look in my book.

Did you have time to write that book? Come on, find a better reason to shade or suspect someone.

 

[Rej]

Good news, the doggos where picked up by their owners
and wow this game really slowed down

Because fucking scum killed active players...

Im still at work, will be back soon. Any questions?

 

[Normalizer]

Did you have time to write that book? Come on, find a better reason to shade or suspect someone.

Nova, Dragomir(I know he is SK but mafia doesn't know which one is SK or townie, what they know is everyone apart from their fellow mafias are non mafia which can be townie or independent as in SK), Oreki and Gambit are active and experience mafia players. I think mafia target them because they are dangerous and they have good reads.

Mafia who killed them might have played them with them to know how dangerous they are.

 

[Stray Cat]

Vote Count:

Wai: Mat.
Nana: Mat.
Normalizer: Mat.
Michelle: Juliet.
Rej: Mat.
Pepper: Mat.
Juliet: Mat.
Ryu: Hayumi.
Hayumi: Mat.

Mat: 7.
Hayumi/Juliet: 1.


Please remember the post requirement.

 

[Ryu Kishi]

Why Hayumi? Care to explain?

The waindo train first dp and his unvote last dp makes me highly suspicious of him.

 

[Michelle]

Nova, Dragomir(I know he is SK but mafia doesn't know which one is SK or townie, what they know is everyone apart from their fellow mafias are non mafia which can be townie or independent as in SK), Oreki and Gambit are active and experience mafia players. I think mafia target them because they are dangerous and they have good reads.

Mafia who killed them might have played them with them to know how dangerous they are.

I don't see what's the connection between this post and the one i quoted, see below the chain.
I don't think the reasoning in your post is bad though

Well vote manipulation by Naomi seeing how gambit is revealed town. I figured Oreki was town after I purposely provoked him.
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Yo somewhat dense arent you?
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Nana
Rej
Normalizer
Juliet
Naomi.

Narrow down on those you will have your scum.

Peace suckers.

Sus people who sus you. That's not a good look in my book.

Did you have time to write that book? Come on, find a better reason to shade or suspect someone.

Do you town read Naomi/Juliet, Rej and Nana and if so, why? @Normalizer

 

[Ryu Kishi]

Naomi/Juliet is highly suspicious for me.

 

[Rej]

Naomi/Juliet is highly suspicious for me.

Why?go back to Naomis older posts and pick me a scummy one and point out why
She is like 100% meta town imho.