He found a way to beat Crocodile after losing to him twice. He'll find a way against Daz.Zoro needed a pre ts version of haki to beat him. Daz Bones pretty much neg-diffed Zoro, completely overpowered him with ease when he pushed him into the building that collapsed on top of him and ate his most lethal strikes. How can Luffy defeat Daz with his excavation drills?
Zoro needed a pre ts version of haki to beat him. Daz Bones pretty much neg-diffed Zoro, completely overpowered him with ease when he pushed him into the building that collapsed on top of him and ate his most lethal strikes. How can Luffy defeat Daz with his excavation drills?
Did Luffy overpower Arlong physically once outside of that scene? Him saing he couldn't move I think just his surprise at how Luffy could stop his casual movement like that, him underestimating humans at every turn. He then went on to restrain Luffy. Here is btw how strong fishmen are
Luffy easily destroyed Arlong's sword just with his physical strength, Luffy also physical overpowered Arlong when he was holding his sword with one arm and Arlong couldn't even move it (in an arc where Fishman was represented to be stronger than humans)
So just by his physical strength he would olredy defeat Mr 1 and combined with his DF power it would be a mid diff fight for Luffy.
Luffy beat a sea monster like that easily as well pre-time skip.Did Luffy overpower Arlong physically once outside of that scene? Him saing he couldn't move I think just his surprise at how Luffy could stop his casual movement like that, him underestimating humans at every turn. He then went on to restrain Luffy. Here is btw how strong fishmen are
Compare this casual punch from Hach, an underling to Arlong, to this thickly-scaled sea monster to Luffy needing to use G2 to take out a much smaller fish in the NW as they're heading to fishman island. I don't think Arlong is any physically weaker than Luffy, quite to the contrary I remember Arlong taking a bunch of attacks and not going down plus him in close combat just shat on Luffy as he casually withheld his arm then threw him in the water.
Strengthwise Luffy and Zoro were shown to be somewhat equal in Whiskey Peak, but Mr.1 just casually threw Zoro into a building. Mr.1 is physically stronger than Luffy. There's also a difference between the pure kind of steel Mr.1 is made out of, both pure and strong steel but also he is much thicker than Arlong's weapon naturally, so there's a huge difference there when it comes to the make-up, hardness and thickness. Zoro could slice up steel swords before facing Mr.1, but Mr.1 isn't even tickled by Zoro's strongest attacks. Neither Zoro nor Luffy has the required strength to take him out. Let's not forget he can turn his entire body into a spinning excavation tool that he applies in combat, plus he has long ranged attacks like sparkling daisy etc so he is a versatile fighter that can wear Luffy down over the course of Luffy "figuring him out" as there really isn't anything to decipher about him. Zoro had the breath of all things, but that is a really special last resort he had that there's no equivalent for Luffy in this case.
Their fight would come to if Luffy can defeat him before he bleeds outI don't think it's right to ask whether Luffy can defeat him or not, because he obviously can
Luffy can defeat anyone who is around his Level, whether slightly Stronger or slightly Weaker or Equal
The real question is whether Mr.1 can be a challenge for Luffy & i'd say Yes
Luffy would have really struggled against him just like Zoro did
I believe Luffy, Zoro & Mr. 1 were around the same Level back at Alabasta Arc
Daz Bonez is actually really Famous, he is known as Deadliest Assassin in West Blue (The Sea where the likes of Moriah, Capone, Chinjao Family, Morley, Laffitte, Jozu ... etc comes from)
Zoro said that he heard of him & we saw that even Mihawk knows about him
Smoker was also surprised that Zoro managed to defeat him
And Crocodile see him as a Strong Member, even suggesting that he wouldn't lose to Mihawk so fast if not for the Prison Fatigue
Not to mention that he is Best Bounty Hunter that Crocodile recruited & tbh even after almost 1K Chapters, we still haven't met better Bounty Hunters.
He was also Level 4 Prisoner which puts him among the Top Half of all Impel Down Prisoners from all Seas
And keep in mind that Luffy who got much stronger since Alabasta Arc, was put in Level 5, only 1 Level above him
The Guards there recognized him as they escaped & he was Strong enough to perform very well in Summit War fighting both HQ Marines & NW Pirates
His Abilities are both Lethal & Defensive + He is Expert Martial Artist & Zoro classified him as a Swordsmen due to how well he uses his Blades
So yeah, he is Really Strong imo even by NW Standards, and since it's his first time outside Paradise, i'd say he have Potential to grow just like Supernova, so i'd say he became much Stronger now
If the SHs meet him now, i don't think anyone less than Monster Trio & Jinbe can handle him
Yeah i agree, tbh if we purely compare based on Fighting Ability & Power Level, it could go either Way, it will be a test of EnduranceTheir fought would come to if Luffy can defeat him before he bleeds out
I mean MC always wins lmaoYeah i agree, tbh if we purely compare based on Fighting Ability & Power Level, it could go either Way, it will be a test of Endurance
(I lean more towards Daz Bonez due to his Lethality & his DF is literally Luffy's Counter)
But i meant if it happened in Manga (Which adds Oda's Writing to it), i'd say the Main Character wins, that's all
no or rather he can but not with what he has shown.
Luffy's AP is town level in final clash with Crocodile.Wouldn't say they are equal in strength, but Luffy would have a hard time to deal with Mr1.
One can compare Daz Bones DF advantvantage with Luffys in the fight with Enel.
I even if I believe Luffy was stronger then Zoro and Daz Bones back in Alabasta, I doubt Luffy would have find a way to deal with this Kind of disadvantage.
So thats why I would say Daz Bones would have won back in Alabasta.
Zoro was way better than Daz Bonez early, he didn't dodge much, he was the One landing so many attacks & proving to be the Superior Swordsman, the problem isn't in Daz Attacks, it's in his Defenseno or rather he can but not with what he has shown.
Luffy can dodge Croco's attacks so he can MR1, he is not Zoro that only tanks wit his swords.
He is faster and because of elasticity he can dodge point blank attacks for Mr1.
His AP is so much better than Mr1 with his final clash vs Mr0 that this become a fight if Mr1 can maitain his steel form logn enough vs can he damage Luffy fast enough!
It is but Luffy's AP punched trough Croco's attack that cut more than what ever Mr1 did on panel.Luffy can dodge all he want but he have to Attack too & that's when Daz gets to damage him, every Punch that Luffy lands results in him being Cut, he simply Counters him, it's a very difficult Fight.
All one shot ranged attacks tha cut more on panel from Mr0 were dodged by Luffy.Daz also showed that he can cut things from afar when he cut the Building Zoro threw from a Distance into many small pieces + Daz overpowered Zoro once Physically who is shown to be as Physically as strong as Luffy (At that time at least if you want)
Again I am not saying this is a below high diff fight but Luffy has the feats to defeat Mr1 more than MR1 has the feats to defeat Luffy.I'm not saying Luffy can't win this, but it would be extremely Challenging for him
(Imagine when Luffy was gonna attack Mihawk & feared his Arms gets Cut, Daz doesn't need to have Mihawk's Skills, since his whole Body is Blades & Iron, wherever Luffy attacks, he can get Cut.
PS: Luffy & Co. couldn't hurt CP9's Tekkai until he got Stronger & achieved Gear 2 & Tekkai is described as turning your Body as Tanky as Iron, so imagine the guy who is literally Iron & Blades
I did this exact fight on NF for 100 pages, I know it well and Zoro only defeated him as Kakau thanks to plot, haki related.Tbh, i'm not hyping Daz only against Luffy, i believe defeating him is Zoro's Greatest Achievement till this day
Everyone else was either no match for Zoro such as Pica or he defeated them while Nerfed such as Ryuma Zombie (Two Swords only) or he wasn't pushed and hurt as much as his Fight against Mr.1 such as Kaku & Ohm