General RP General Chat

[Ranger]

magma and cold are both S+ rank Devil Fruit so it would be pretty much equal, but Mera is S rank Devil Fruit so you would have a little bit of trouble if your stats are equal @kakashi19283

 

[Ziosa]

magma and cold are both S+ rank Devil Fruit so it would be pretty much equal, but Mera is S rank Devil Fruit so you would have a little bit of trouble if your stats are equal @kakashi19283

his are lower as aokiji is level 90

 

[Kaka]

Where does that come into the equation?

I don't see anything about fruit rank in DPR.

 

[tlgRen]

Pokemon has taught us that Fire > Ice though. Who are we to question Pokemon?

 

[Kaka]

Pokemon has taught us that Fire > Ice though. Who are we to question Pokemon?

Even just normal science and logic tells that. xD

 

[Ziosa]

Where does that come into the equation?

I don't see anything about fruit rank in DPR.

its not, but it is used to show general power of the fruit and how good their boosts are etc. I dont really think it should matter in this case though, especially since S and S+ are super close anyway

 

[tlgRen]

But Fire + Ice = Water and Water > Fire.

Quite the conundrum.

 

[Ziosa]

But Fire + Ice = Water and Water > Fire.

Quite the conundrum.

but freeze dry is also ice and is good against water so does that mean ice>water>fire

 

[Ranger]

Where does that come into the equation?

I don't see anything about fruit rank in DPR.

its not a big difference but there are ranks for a reason

there is also a price difference between different ranked df for this reason

its more like "it would be weird if someone with a slighlty lower ranked DF and the same exact stats defeated someone with a slightly higher ranked DF"

obvsiously that is not the scenario you are in exactly, but maybe you get what I am trying to say?

 

[Ziosa]

its not a big difference but there are ranks for a reason

there is also a price difference between different ranked df for this reason

its more like "it would be weird if someone with a slighlty lower ranked DF and the same exact stats defeated someone with a slightly higher ranked DF"

obvsiously that is not the scenario you are in exactly, but maybe you get what I am trying to say?

how they use the DF and the DFs themseleves etc can also play a factor though; it shouldnt just be S+ DFs>S>A>B>C

 

[tlgRen]

its not a big difference but there are ranks for a reason

there is also a price difference between different ranked df for this reason

its more like "it would be weird if someone with a slighlty lower ranked DF and the same exact stats defeated someone with a slightly higher ranked DF"

obvsiously that is not the scenario you are in exactly, but maybe you get what I am trying to say?

Your fighting style can make a huge impact though. Imagine if a Gomu user had Hasshoken, if their stats were even, they'd probably win vs the mochi.

 

[Emperor Cross]

@Emperor Cross

Depends how the story is done. Akainu doesn't like Aokiji either, Akainu would favor a fellow Absolute Justice Marine like Leo.

As for all the stats talk, it ain't all about stats, though I'm starting to notice most people on TB do think that. xD

@Ziosa

Akainu vs Aokiji was off-screen, can't really draw conclusions from that. You don't know if the fight was equal, or if Aokiji was on the defensive the whole time. You don't know how Haki played into it, maybe Aokiji has better Haki, etc.. Certainly ice is easier to imbue with Haki than a liquid like magma, so... could be all sorts of different possibilities.

But Aokiji did lose both an arm and a leg whereas Akainu just lost a little chunk of his ear. xD

The problem is that even after beating Aokiji he still acknowledged his power and still offered a position under him. No matter what we people on the Absolute Justice side think. Aokiji is important much more than any of the guys under Akainu. He ain't going to choose us over him. It's not that much complicated.

 

[Kaka]

its not a big difference but there are ranks for a reason

there is also a price difference between different ranked df for this reason

its more like "it would be weird if someone with a slighlty lower ranked DF and the same exact stats defeated someone with a slightly higher ranked DF"

obvsiously that is not the scenario you are in exactly, but maybe you get what I am trying to say?

I just don't like how all the RP is being taken out of the equation lol. There's strategizing, there's capitalizing on the situation, there's a million things that go into the equation outside of S rank vs S+ rank lol.

All I've been seeing is ''he's 10 levels higher and his DF is S+ vs your S (which is not even an official canon interpretation, it's just something that was randomly decided), so he'd stomp you''. xD
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The problem is that even after beating Aokiji he still acknowledged his power and still offered a position under him. No matter what we people on the Absolute Justice side think. Aokiji is important much more than any of the guys under Akainu. He ain't going to choose us over him. It's not that much complicated.

I don't see why Akainu would attempt to kill Leo after Leo beats Aokiji in a fair challenge. It's not being a traitor or anything, it's a challenge for the Admiral position. xD

Akainu didn't get punished for challenging Aokiji in the manga, so clearly challenging each other is fine for Marines.

 

[tlgRen]

How do you think I feel with an A Rank fruit? o:

 

[Ranger]

how they use the DF and the DFs themseleves etc can also play a factor though; it shouldnt just be S+ DFs>S>A>B>C

Your fighting style can make a huge impact though. Imagine if a Gomu user had Hasshoken, if their stats were even, they'd probably win vs the mochi.

I just don't like how all the RP is being taken out of the equation lol. There's strategizing, there's capitalizing on the situation, there's a million things that go into the equation outside of S rank vs S+ rank lol.

All I've been seeing is ''he's 10 levels higher and his DF is S+ vs your S (which is not even an official canon interpretation, it's just something that was randomly decided), so he'd stomp you''. xD
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I don't see why Akainu would attempt to kill Leo after Leo beats Aokiji in a fair challenge. It's not being a traitor or anything, it's a challenge for the Admiral position. xD

Akainu didn't get punished for challenging Aokiji in the manga, so clearly challenging each other is fine for Marines.

Right. Your RP ability and and stat differences can certainly change the tide of a fight.

It's not just "whoever has the better DF wins"

I'm just trying to point out that there are DF ranks in addition to everything else

 

[Kaka]

Curious though, who came up with the DF ranks and what was the logic?

Cause I would get Magu being S-rank, but based on what is the Hie higher up than the Mera? xD

Literally the only interaction between the two was a 100% equal exchange. If anything, Aokiji's mastery was probably higher, and it still ended in a stalemate.

 

[Ranger]

Curious though, who came up with the DF ranks and what was the logic?

Cause I would get Magu being S-rank, but based on what is the Hie higher up than the Mera? xD

Literally the only interaction between the two was a 100% equal exchange. If anything, Aokiji's mastery was probably higher, and it still ended in a stalemate.

Oda's SBS statement says that magu > mera

SBS Volume 79

This is the collection of SBS sections from Volume 79. D (Dokusha means Reader) O (Oda) D: Oi... Odacchi...!! *hack*... this.. has nothing to do with you but.... *gasp*...!! Just now, over in that ally to your right.... I came across... a weakened old hag.... who was in need of help, y'know...

onepiece.fandom.com

 

[tlgRen]

my guess is cause the hie can freeze/shatter opponents.

 

[Ziosa]

Curious though, who came up with the DF ranks and what was the logic?

Cause I would get Magu being S-rank, but based on what is the Hie higher up than the Mera? xD

Literally the only interaction between the two was a 100% equal exchange. If anything, Aokiji's mastery was probably higher, and it still ended in a stalemate.

larsi did, and i guess it was based off how some fruits were just stronger than most others etc.

and probs the user influenced it, freezing massive amounts of water, freezing people etc

 

[Emperor Cross]

All I've been seeing is ''he's 10 levels higher and his DF is S+ vs your S (which is not even an official canon interpretation, it's just something that was randomly decided), so he'd stomp you''. xD

Only problem is his durability imo. When using fruit power most of his stats are at 120 and Prudence isn't going to make ya level 90 (and add 120k exp for the awakening)....

Admiral Aokiji

Level 90
90 x 5 = 450
Strength: 82+18=100
Speed: 82+23=105
105x2=210
-Reaction: 105
-Movement: 105
Vitality: 63+33=96
96x2=192
-Durability: 96
-Stamina: 96
Haki: 100
100x2=200
-Armament Haki:100
-Observation Haki: 100
Martial Arts: 42
42x2=82
-Rokushiki: 82
Devil Fruit: 100+20=120

I don't see why Akainu would attempt to kill Leo after Leo beats Aokiji in a fair challenge. It's not being a traitor or anything, it's a challenge for the Admiral position. xD

Akainu didn't get punished for challenging Aokiji in the manga, so clearly challenging each other is fine for Marines.

Difference between beating in a fair challenge and killing. Akainu and Kiji fought because there was no other way.