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[Ziosa]

Now this is a good Blackbeard. Considering you get 2 insane fruits from him at once, he really should be this strong. Cause right now he's a free Gura + Yami lol.

90 x 6 = 540

- STR: 82 (Race: +18) = 100
- SPE: 82 (Race: +18) = 100

- Movement: 100​

- Reaction: 100​

- VIT: 82 (Race: +18) = 100 + 15 + 10 = 125

- Stamina: 125​

- Durability: 125​

- Gura Gura no Mi: 100 (Item: +20) = 120
- Yami Yami no Mi: 100 (Item: +20) = 120
- Haki: 94

- Busou-shoku no Haki: 88​

- Kenbun-shoku no Haki (precognition): 100​

pretty much the same stats as i did, except i did 100 in armament too

 

[Oreki]

At this point I really wanna whine about for not having a way for non devil fruit users to gain 120 in strength since we keep getting characters with 120 in strength and now we went above that.

 

[Kaka]

At this point I really wanna whine about for not having a way for non devil fruit users to gain 120 in strength since we keep getting characters with 120 in strength and now we went above that.

Your character literally has 120 strength without a DF?
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Nope i lose to all 3 of them and likely may lose to any of the commanders possibly too

Wtf are you on about lol

 

[Oreki]

Your character literally has 120 strength without a DF?

He uses lot of techs which requires me to use science stats, I want without them since science stats requires 50 points

 

[The Fool]

Looking at any of the yonkou,

Wano - I'd die before i get to King,Queen and Jack. As going through all those NPC's is hard enough
Yukiryu - I die against not only Shanks, but benn, lucky and all them other commanders prior
Hachinosu - I die against BB instantly, Shiryou may kill me. Though likely die before i get to the top commanders
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Wtf are you on about lol

I die to any of the yonkou, and going to the yonkou territory it's not like i will be making a beeling for the yonko. I would likely die before i even get to the top commanders.

 

[Kaka]

@Gintoki

You trump King and Queen and Jack. on literally every stat and have regen on top of that.

You trump Benn Beckmann and Lucky Roux and Yasopp on literally every stat and have regen on top of that.

You even trump Shanks on every possible stat aside from Haki.

And you trump all of Blackbeard's commanders' stats, literally every stat lol.

You got 120s across the board, what are you even on about. The only one that trumps you is Kaido cause he has a MZ just like you lol. That's all.

 

[Ziosa]

So when are we getting a way to get these stats ourselves or else these stats are unreasonable

NPCs can cheat, and have been able to since the start lol

 

[Kaka]

Looking at any of the yonkou,

Wano - I'd die before i get to King,Queen and Jack. As going through all those NPC's is hard enough
Yukiryu - I die against not only Shanks, but benn, lucky and all them other commanders prior
Hachinosu - I die against BB instantly, Shiryou may kill me. Though likely die before i get to the top commanders
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I die to any of the yonkou, and going to the yonkou territory it's not like i will be making a beeling for the yonko. I would likely die before i even get to the top commanders.

No shit you ain't meant to solo a whole Yonkou crew lol. I'm talking 1 vs 1s. The rest, get allies. What do you wanna just walk to Wano and be able to beat them all alone? You're making no sense really...
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He uses lot of techs which requires me to use science stats, I want without them since science stats requires 50 points

Literally any character can get 120 strength with the item. I don't see your point lol.

 

[The Fool]

@Gintoki

You trump King and Queen and Jack. on literally every stat and have regen on top of that.

You trump Benn Beckmann and Lucky Roux and Yasopp on literally every stat and have regen on top of that.

You even trump Shanks on every possible stat aside from Haki.

And you trump all of Blackbeard's commanders' stats, literally every stat lol.

You got 120s across the board, what are you even on about. The only one that trumps you is Kaido cause he has a MZ just like you lol. That's all.

You forget that they all have crews as well, it's not like i am having a 1 v 1 there. Thats not an adventure thats a BG
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No shit you ain't meant to solo a whole Yonkou crew lol. I'm talking 1 vs 1s. The rest, get allies. What do you wanna just walk to Wano and be able to beat them all alone? You're making no sense really...
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Literally any character can get 120 strength with the item. I don't see your point lol.

So wait at Level 90 with DF awakening, what more you want me to become Level 140 and still get further nerfed?

 

[Kaka]

You forget that they all have crews as well, it's not like i am having a 1 v 1 there. Thats not an adventure thats a BG
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So wait at Level 90 with DF awakening, what more you want me to become Level 140 and still get further nerfed?

Yes, so get a crew. Or get others to join your adventure, even if they're not your crew. Even Roger and Garp, sworn enemies, joined up vs Rocks.

You're not MEANT to be able to solo a Yonkou crew, that would put you on a level that's completely out of the canon, no one in the canon can solo a Yonkou crew.

 

[Oreki]

NPCs can cheat, and have been able to since the start lol

But we as a characters have to fight them fair so if we don't have a way to gain these powers we are good as dead also now we have shanks with 120 in both haki and we can't have that either. I mean it's not really hard to introduce a way for us to gain these boosts.

Like if someone CoO 200k exp item then they can buy boost for both CoA and CoO
Or 120k exp for +20 in strength etc

 

[The Fool]

Yes, so get a crew. Or get others to join your adventure, even if they're not your crew. Even Roger and Garp, sworn enemies, joined up vs Rocks.

You're not MEANT to be able to solo a Yonkou crew, that would put you on a level that's completely out of the canon, no one in the canon can solo a Yonkou crew.

Zoan's already have a nerf if you haven't figured out

100 Mastery = Transformation Points
7 Point for Beast Transformation at 41 Mastery

And its 10 points for Hybrid

 

[Einsauer]

Fear
DFs: Hollow, Allosaurus, Resurrection, Hormones, Soul, Book
Martial Arts/Others: Conquerors Haki
Minor fear: affected is slighly dizzy. lasts 2 turns. Requires at least 31 mastery
Moderate fear: affected is dizzy, has slighly reduced observation Haki and finds it slightly hard to concentrate on anything but the thing scaring them. lasts for 3-4 turns. Requires at least 51 mastery
Scared: affected is nauseated, has reduced observation Haki and finds it hard to concentrate on anything but the thing scaring them. lasts for 3-6 turns. Requires at least 71 mastery
Terrified: affected is quite nauseated, has quite reduced observation Haki and can only concentrate on the thing scaring them; they are also slightly nauseated even after the effect ends (requires treatment to heal). lasts for 5-8 turns. Requires at least 91 mastery and a shop upgrade


I love this so much.

 

[Ziosa]

But we as a characters have to fight them fair so if we don't have a way to gain these powers we are good as dead also now we have shanks with 120 in both haki and we can't have that either. I mean it's not really hard to introduce a way for us to gain these boosts.

Like if someone CoO 200k exp item then they can buy boost for both CoA and CoO
Or 120k exp for +20 in strength etc

you have a crew and other PCs to help you. Yonkos are suppose to be at the top, they arent suppose to be easily beatable. Having every stat at 120 makes fights boring as everyone would just have the same stats; you need to be creative and stuff rather than focusing on stats all the time

 

[Oreki]

Literally any character can get 120 strength with the item. I don't see your point lol.

You can't use multiple science items since they require invest points so you pretty much need science stat to have invest points
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you have a crew and other PCs to help you. Yonkos are suppose to be at the top, they arent suppose to be easily beatable. Having every stat at 120 makes fights boring as everyone would just have the same stats; you need to be creative and stuff rather than focusing on stats all the time

Yeah but they have a crew as well both broken stats.. and having 120 make fight go to extreme length rather than ending in few blows with these guys at least

 

[Kaka]

Plus, again, @Gintoki you should not be comparing yourself to NPCs. You should be comparing yourself to other PCs. Because if you hold an unfair advantage over other players of equal level, then that means you can do territories that they can't, which means you can get to rewards that they can't, just cause MZ > everything.

So if anything, the MZ needs to be balanced, and then the Yonkou can get balanced. But saying you should be 10x stronger than any other PC just so you can go solo Yonkou islands, is ridiculous.

I get your point that nerfing you would put you at a disadvantage against Yonkous, but at least you'd be at the SAME disadvantage as other level 90 PCs. And then we can work on that disadvantage by either nerfing Yonkous, or their Commanders.

Cause tbh, I think what needs nerfing is their commanders, not the actual Yonkous (as you said). And imo, even canonically speaking, the difference between Kaido and King/Queen cannot just be 5-10 levels. We all know Kaido would literally roflstomp them both 2 on 1 in 10 seconds. Their difference should be quite significant. And by nerfing all of those Commanders, you'd now see the light at the end of the tunnel.

But clinging to your completely unbalanced MZ just so you can challenge the even more unbalanced Yonko crew setups, just leaves everyone else at a completely illogical disadvantage.

 

[The Fool]

Plus, again, @Gintoki you should not be comparing yourself to NPCs. You should be comparing yourself to other PCs. Because if you hold an unfair advantage over other players of equal level, then that means you can do territories that they can't, which means you can get to rewards that they can't, just cause MZ > everything.

So if anything, the MZ needs to be balanced, and then the Yonkou can get balanced. But saying you should be 10x stronger than any other PC just so you can go solo Yonkou islands, is ridiculous.

I get your point that nerfing you would put you at a disadvantage against Yonkous, but at least you'd be at the SAME disadvantage as other level 90 PCs. And then we can work on that disadvantage by either nerfing Yonkous, or their Commanders.

Cause tbh, I think what needs nerfing is their commanders, not the actual Yonkous (as you said). And imo, even canonically speaking, the difference between Kaido and King/Queen cannot just be 5-10 levels. We all know Kaido would literally roflstomp them both 2 on 1 in 10 seconds. Their difference should be quite significant. And by nerfing all of those Commanders, you'd now see the light at the end of the tunnel.

But clinging your completely unbalanced MZs just so you can challenge the even more unbalanced Yonko crew setups, makes no sense.

Zoan's already have a nerf

Info - RPG Master Thread

Here is a list of posts with information and patches in this thread.

thrillerbark.com

Check Zoan Mastery

After 10 turns what am i supposed to do? as i am a sitting duck with no MA

 

[Oreki]

At this point my character has nothing to gain stats wise since he has all store available boosts and he can't get any stronger so honestly it sounds pretty boring to me since no matter how much my character fight he stays the same

 

[Kaka]

Zoan's already have a nerf

Info - RPG Master Thread

Here is a list of posts with information and patches in this thread.

thrillerbark.com

Check Zoan Mastery

After 10 turns what am i supposed to do? as i am a sitting duck with no MA

You have 100 Rokushiki in one set of stats I'm looking at so Iunno what you mean xD
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At this point my character has nothing to gain stats wise since he has all store available boosts and he can't get any stronger so honestly it sounds pretty boring to me since no matter how much my character fight he stays the same

Yea tha's a whole different topic. I do agree with you, but that just needs other type of solving. Nothing to do with MZs and their brokeness. xD

 

[The Fool]

You have 100 Rokushiki in one set of stats I'm looking at so Iunno what you mean xD

I haven't got Rokushiki yet as its something i am getting soon and even then i don't have the zoan boosts i go back to base stats at 95 strength