[FIN] Traditional Mafia The Gang Plays Mafia [Mafia Championship Practice]

[Oreki]

@Oreki what do you think about Gambit?

The conversation between the two of you I can't take a solid stance on either of you, I'm very unsure whether I should give town cred or scumcred...

 

[Stray Cat]

The conversation between the two of you I can't take a solid stance on either of you, I'm very unsure whether I should give town cred or scumcred...

Fair enough.

 

[Oreki]

I'll cast my vote already.

Vote Lynch Nessos

 

[Rej]

And now the line about being fine with a mislynch, that's not how you play. That's just not. Regardless of alignment you have to fight to survive. Every Townie is important, every mislynch hurts Town. For that line alone he is scum.

Wrong. A vanilla is only worth a vote. Early game numbers do not matter, that is why you need the towncore. Scum then decides if they let the towncore live or if they get shot. Thats easy. Dont forget this is a vanilla game and town follows a 1:4 ratio but the usual 1:3 ratio you have in madness games with an Indie.
So yes mislynches here are more infolynch than in a RM game. It is almost impossible to PROPERLY hunt all 3 mafia goons down in D1.

 

[Beky]

Stray Cat - great
Beky - good
Rej - great
Michelle - good
Nessos - bad
Joby - haven't looked at her
Ted - meh
Samael - good
Gambit - bad
Poison - good
Oreki - bad

I agree with most here but i have 2 problems
1. Ted - I lean scum on him bcs - https://thrillerbark.com/threads/the-gang-plays-mafia-mafia-championship-practice.1350/page-16#post-86272
2. Samael - I can't put him on good or bad. He only has 1 post which def isn't enough to put him on town or scum side. More should be known if he comes back or if he gets a sub

 

[Stray Cat]

Wrong. A vanilla is only worth a vote. Early game numbers do not matter, that is why you need the towncore. Scum then decides if they let the towncore live or if they get shot. Thats easy. Dont forget this is a vanilla game and town follows a 1:4 ratio but the usual 1:3 ratio you have in madness games with an Indie.
So yes mislynches here are more infolynch than in a RM game. It is almost impossible to PROPERLY hunt all 3 mafia goons down in D1.

Yeah, but when he has a suspect and a scum read on Beky, why does he not fight to convince others that Beky is scum and instead proposes that we should lynch him and get a mislynch? It's almost like he was just throwing shades at Beky and backpedals because Beky is Town and a lynch on him would reveal him as scum. That's how this feels like. So even if mislynches are okay which they are not in my point of view, but views differ, so it does not make any sense for Nessos to not fight for his belief that Beky is scum if Nessos was Town.
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This is just like Gambit's Town read on me which he has for no apparent reason. Both cases are huge contradictions.

 

[Rej]

Ask me what do i think about Ted - Nessos open buddying so i can get townie points

Dude what is "open buddying" it sounds so negative. They are just collabing imho. Seems like opportunistic townies try to convince people.

Gosh I am finally cought up, time to make reads baby and I second what Drago said. 48 hour DPs are nice
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Yeah, but when he has a suspect and a scum read on Beky, why does he not fight to convince others that Beky is scum and instead proposes that we should lynch him and get a mislynch? It's almost like he was just throwing shades at Beky and backpedals because Beky is Town and a lynch on him would reveal him as scum. That's how this feels like. So even if mislynches are okay which they are not in my point of view, but views differ, so it does not make any sense for Nessos to not fight for his belief that Beky is scum if Nessos was Town.
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This is just like Gambit's Town read on me which he has for no apparent reason. Both cases are huge contradictions.

I see it like Nessos challenging people in his language he tries to say:
"Lynch me, and you will see for yourself, but still please put your focus on others too".
That is Nessos in short. Lmao.

 

[Stray Cat]

Dude what is "open buddying" it sounds so negative. They are just collabing imho. Seems like opportunistic townies try to convince people.

Gosh I am finally cought up, time to make reads baby and I second what Drago said. 48 hour DPs are nice
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I see it like Nessos challenging people in his language he tries to say:
"Lynch me, and you will see for yourself, but still please put your focus on others too".
That is Nessos in short. Lmao.

He was painting Beky and me in the same light. Called him and me " they" like we were ganging up on him and he is the poor victim. Read his posts for yourself, iso his conversation with Michelle and tell me how he isn't scum.

 

[Oreki]

I see it like Nessos challenging people in his language he tries to say:
"Lynch me, and you will see for yourself, but still please put your focus on others too".
That is Nessos in short. Lmao.

Describe Nessos if you know about him this much

 

[Rej]

I will, for me Nessos is unclear alignmentwise, but what he does is stupidly townish, I just dont get behind his ideas/agenda.
Do not quote me, except you have a huge question towards me or a case. I will go back to Dragos GTH read and do my own one.
It just will take 30-60 mins (since I just arrived home and I am going to smoke and reread the past half of the DP!
I am not gone!

 

[Beky]

Dude what is "open buddying" it sounds so negative. They are just collabing imho.

You missed the joke

Do not quote me, except you have a huge question towards me or a case. I will go back to Dragos GTH read and do my own one.

That is very disruptive play if you are town. Not only do you make yourself a possible miss lynch you also waste time with antics. If thats the case i'll vote Nessos just to remove that kind of playstyle from this game

 

[Onadaga]

ok im rereading the whole thread

ok i gave up after first page ill continue from my last post yesterday

my first reaction to joby's opening wall was that her stance/treatment of stray cat was similar of gambit's, and my gut reaction was to say scummy. but i can understand her train of logic, and like, unlike gambit's chaotic-ness, joby seems more orderly and like i just get it. i dont think its correct for me to call he wolf for being opportunistic on stray cat scumead, i also feel like there's a bias in my head cuz i already got a bunch of townreads. hypothethically if joby was one of the first posters i would have maybe townread her? idk its hard to tell how'd i'd think in a parallel universe.

this line "I'm really not trying to come off as tunneling on stray, but what you just stated is what stray does best--especially as scum" makes me wonder - would she openly admit to being self-conscious as a wolf, or is she town admitting to caring about how she's perceived? my gut is to say town since ive seen no other evidence of her being brazen or dis-attached yet? we'll see

i feel like dragomir might be scum, i felt as though his two posts (ignoring the very first greeting one, the 2 after that) were a bit scummy and i cant really explain why. i guess if i tried really hard to explain it is because i feel like i can't really get into his brain / he isn't laying his cards on the table yet

(i said a few time i dont label stuff about me and stuff i just play, but if i can say something, its that i have a hard time explaining my reads. michelle can confirm (chandra), it's like, i mean, scum won't just roll over and die. u can never really give concise logical reasons about why someone is scum. at least in my mind. usually games go by ppl going on feelings and stuff at least thats how i perceive Mafia)

im continuing to read, i can see Dragomir questioning ppl but im not sure if he's genuine in his self-portrayal that he's getting conclusions from said questions. (i could be wrong!)

(reminder to vote Dragomir)

beky is like lock town, he is a very open person and, like, transparent

reached at post 243 by Dragomir and this seems to be just his posting style. kind of like this official business co-workers type of posting style, its just hard (for me) to judge emotions behind that. i really wanna be correct and not push townies so thats why im thinking real hard about ppl and i might be spamming non-content, sorry if so. this is just whats going thru my head.

i no longer think he's scum. he's starting to grow on me

BRUH that harry potter wall

mamma mia

i remember becky telling me at start of game that maybe we have playstyle difference but its not true, i too value emotions of everything. emotions > logic as i keep saying tbh. my eyes are glazing over all the analytical posts u bros are making (i apologize for that) i just cant, like, vibe with it, on a full level. maybe if it was in real time and i was a participant id pay more attention. (sorry)

ok so my genuine thoughts rn as dumb as they are:

dragomir scum and person with eagle avatar town. i cant explain why. let me think 5 minutes to see if i can

 

[Nessos]

person with eagle avatar

Who the fuck has an Eagle Avatar?!?

 

[Onadaga]

its an american bald eagle no?

How does that make you feel?

How do you yourself feel about it?

What do you think of it?

Have you had town games where you ask questions like these, and don't immediately reveal your conclusion (if any) when the person answers?

 

[Beky]

Who the fuck has an Eagle Avatar?!?

I think thats you

But morgans is a sea gull?

 

[Dragomir]

its an american bald eagle no?




Have you had town games where you ask questions like these, and don't immediately reveal your conclusion (if any) when the person answers?

My conclusion? I don't follow.

 

[Onadaga]

and for nessos my gut reaction is to perceive him as the way you perceive gambit - chaotic in his energy

would you guys say they're not similar?

 

[Beky]

Wait hold on trafalgar is in this game too?

 

[Onadaga]

My conclusion? I don't follow.

you asked these people a bunch of questions

what is the purpose of asking the question, if not getting some kind of conclusion?

 

[Nessos]

its an american bald eagle no

Its an Albatross, scumlock