Wolfgang Thread

[oddoddfruit]

Yea but Jailor is towns strong point. Taking him away and making him mafia is a bit weird
So if jailor executes a townies does he still lose all other executes?

I don't know all the specifics, just been catching some games on youtube. But there are 10 townies, 1 traitor, 3 maf and a witch.

I think the Traitor Jailor doesn't lose their executes

 

[Nessos]

Have you guys seen the new Town Traitor mode for Town of Salem?

Looks awesome

Spoiler: classic setup

• Sheriff
• Jailor
• Doctor
• LO
• 1 Town Invest
• 1 Town protect
• 1 Town killing
• 1 Town support
• 3 random Town
• Godfather
• Mafioso
• 1 random Mafia
• Witch

Spoiler: coven setup

• Sheriff
• Jailor
• Crusader
• Tracker
• 1 Town Invest
• 1 Town protect
• 1 Town killing
• 1 Town support
• 3 random Town
• Cult Leader
• Medusa
• 2 random Coven

Gameplay/rules

• Among Town one Traitor!
• Traitor is in Mafia Chat besides that he keeps all his Town role abilities
• Traitor Jailor and Traitor Vig no punishment for killing Town
• Traitor can't be Retri
• Town Traitor appears as Mafia/Coven when dying(-> Retri can't revive)
• Town Traitor does not promote to Mafioso/GF nor be able to receive Necronomicon (-> keeps his Town role Till end)
• If all Mafia/Coven member died and only Traitor left Town only have 3 Day left to find the Traitor otherwise Mafia wins

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@Beky for me this setup sounds fair. One more Town therefor removing the Kill All.

So it becomes 10 vs 5 in a semi open setup.

 

[oddoddfruit]

It will definitely put a hit on the old low effort claim and win strategy of sheep town

 

[Beky]

Looks awesome

Spoiler: setup

• Sheriff
• Jailor
• Doctor
• LO
• 1 Town Invest
• 1 Town protect
• 1 Town killing
• 1 Town support
• 3 random Town
• Godfather
• Mafioso
• 1 random Mafia
• Witch

Gameplay/rules

• Among Town one Traitor!
• Traitor is in Mafia Chat besides that he keeps all his Town role abilities
• Traitor Jailor and Traitor Vig no punishment for killing Town
• Traitor can't be Retri
• If all Mafia member died and only Traitor left -> 3 Day for Town to find the Traitor.

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@Beky for me this setup sounds fair. One more Town therefor removing the Kill All.

So it becomes 10 vs 5 in a semi open setup.

It works but the problem is with what you replace it. I dont think he should be replaced with any locked role. But he can be any random role.

I mean mafia having Jailor is just broken af. Not only does town lose Jailor they also go against a role that pretty much is invest-rb-kill in one.

 

[Beky]

• 1 Town Invest
• 1 Town protect
• 1 Town killing
• 1 Town support
• 3 random Town

IMO spy should only one be one of these

 

[Nessos]

Yea but Jailor is towns strong point. Taking him away and making him mafia is a bit weird
So if jailor executes a townies does he still lose all other executes?

No and Traitor Vig also not suiciding.
(These the only Traitors changing a bit)

May sound op, but is not. Jailor executing multiple Townies or Vig Killing Town early outs them as Traitors.

Don't forget Town stronger then in ordinary Game (one more Town and one less anti Town)

Spoiler: changes compared to ranked setup

• Neutral Killing -> Town
• 4th Mafia -> Town Traitor

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IMO traitor should only one be one of these

This would destroy the mode, making it far too easy to find the Traitor.

When we test it, I think we should try the official version.

 

[Beky]

I meana why not lol
Worth a shot

 

[oddoddfruit]

Town Traitor doesn't promote to Mafioso or Godfather or anything like that if they're the only one left, they keep their town role the whole way through
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And town traitor shows up Red upon death so a Retri can't revive them

 

[Nessos]

I think I would bust my whole Team as traitor aiming for the 3 Day cooldown


As Town I would keep the last Mafia blocked(if possible) to avoid 3 Day cooldown



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I added a Threadmark for the Town Traitor mode, so that Coaches and approved Hosts can easily find it.

Spoiler: ToS Coaches and approved Hosts

Coaches: @Shottie @Chris Mic @AL.

Approved regular ToS Hosts:
@Shottie
@novaselinenever
@Prath
@Chris Mic
@AL.
@Dragomir
@Ninety Eyes
@MistyCat

Approved Coven Hosts:
@Shottie
@Prath
@Chris Mic
@Dragomir
@AL.

 

[Shottie]

I think I would bust my whole Team as traitor aiming for the 3 Day cooldown


As Town I would keep the last Mafia blocked(if possible) to avoid 3 Day cooldown



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I added a Threadmark for the Town Traitor mode, so that Coaches and approved Hosts can easily find it.

Spoiler: ToS Coaches and approved Hosts

Coaches: @Shottie @Chris Mic @AL.

Approved regular ToS Hosts:
@Shottie
@novaselinenever
@Prath
@Chris Mic
@AL.
@Dragomir
@Ninety Eyes
@MistyCat

Approved Coven Hosts:
@Shottie
@Prath
@Chris Mic
@Dragomir
@AL.

You can also add it to the ToS new roles suggestion thread

 

[Beky]

Town Traitor doesn't promote to Mafioso or Godfather or anything like that if they're the only one left, they keep their town role the whole way through
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And town traitor shows up Red upon death so a Retri can't revive them

Awww man. If they turned up green that would be such a meme fest lmao

 

[Beky]

Wait how about double roles???

 

[Nessos]

Wait how about double roles???

What do you mean?
Uniqze roles keep being unique.

But there still can be like 2 Escorts with one of them being a Town Traitor.
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You can also add it to the ToS new roles suggestion thread

Its not really a role it is a setup with special mechanic

 

[Beky]

What do you mean?

Here is an example

Corrupt Investigator
Aliment - Town or Mafia
Ability - Find out someones role but silence them following day

Basically roles that can be either town or mafia, they show up like that on investigations and on death. You basically never know which side they are on. They have abilities that can benefit both mafia and town depending on which team they land

 

[Nessos]

Awww man. If they turned up green that would be such a meme fest lmao

Then noone would find out if they already found the traitor, would lead to confusion.

 

[Beky]

Shall I copy every Town role (bar Retri) saying anyone can be Traitor

Why copy?
These would be brand new roles

 

[Nessos]

Why copy?
These would be brand new roles

Already removed thought that was an reply to sth. else.
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Here is an example

Corrupt Investigator
Aliment - Town or Mafia
Ability - Find out someones role but silence them following day

Basically roles that can be either town or mafia, they show up like that on investigations and on death. You basically never know which side they are on. They have abilities that can benefit both mafia and town depending on which team they land

Funny idea you should suggest them in ToS New Role(s) Suggestion Thread

Would Town find out if they are scum or Town, if they die or would you let them die as mix?

 

[Beky]

Would Town find out if they are scum or Town, if they die or would you let them die as mix?

They should be exposed on death

 

[oddoddfruit]

There's no need to rewrite the whole book, Town Traitor shows up red, simple

 

[Nessos]

There's no need to rewrite the whole book, Town Traitor shows up red, simple

Do you think Town Traitor is also possible with Coven like

• Sheriff
• Jailor
• Doctor
• Lookout
• 1 Town Invest
• 1 Town protect
• 1 Town killing
• 1 Town support
• 3 random Town
• Cult Leader
• Medusa
• 1 random Coven
• Executioner

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Just notice there is also a setup for Coven
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Just notice there is also a setup for Coven
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Coven Setup for Town Traitor is:

• Sheriff
• Jailor
• Crusader
• Tracker
• 1 Town Invest
• 1 Town protect
• 1 Town killing
• 1 Town support
• 3 random Town
• Cult Leader
• Medusa
• 2 random Coven