[FIN] Traditional Mafia The Gang Plays Mafia [Mafia Championship Practice]

[Dragomir]

you asked these people a bunch of questions

what is the purpose of asking the question, if not getting some kind of conclusion?

I asked them so they could tell me what they felt, that way I understand what they're thinking.

 

[Stray Cat]

its an american bald eagle no?




Have you had town games where you ask questions like these, and don't immediately reveal your conclusion (if any) when the person answers?

Yes. For baiting reasons or to genuinely try to get behind people's reasonings.

For me Drago seems more Town than the last game I played with him where he was scum. He has a very inquisitive (that the word?) play style and didn't try to seem pushy from the start. He is more cautious and not very aggressive.

 

[Onadaga]

I asked them so they could tell me what they felt, that way I understand what they're thinking.

So what were your conclusions? Apologies if you've already laid them out and I didn't understand
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i acknowledge the fact that gambit is a chaotic player and i assume they get misread a lot, but i don't see anyone else better to vote right now, sorry if you're town gambit

 

[Dragomir]

ok im rereading the whole thread

ok i gave up after first page ill continue from my last post yesterday

my first reaction to joby's opening wall was that her stance/treatment of stray cat was similar of gambit's, and my gut reaction was to say scummy. but i can understand her train of logic, and like, unlike gambit's chaotic-ness, joby seems more orderly and like i just get it. i dont think its correct for me to call he wolf for being opportunistic on stray cat scumead, i also feel like there's a bias in my head cuz i already got a bunch of townreads. hypothethically if joby was one of the first posters i would have maybe townread her? idk its hard to tell how'd i'd think in a parallel universe.

this line "I'm really not trying to come off as tunneling on stray, but what you just stated is what stray does best--especially as scum" makes me wonder - would she openly admit to being self-conscious as a wolf, or is she town admitting to caring about how she's perceived? my gut is to say town since ive seen no other evidence of her being brazen or dis-attached yet? we'll see

i feel like dragomir might be scum, i felt as though his two posts (ignoring the very first greeting one, the 2 after that) were a bit scummy and i cant really explain why. i guess if i tried really hard to explain it is because i feel like i can't really get into his brain / he isn't laying his cards on the table yet

(i said a few time i dont label stuff about me and stuff i just play, but if i can say something, its that i have a hard time explaining my reads. michelle can confirm (chandra), it's like, i mean, scum won't just roll over and die. u can never really give concise logical reasons about why someone is scum. at least in my mind. usually games go by ppl going on feelings and stuff at least thats how i perceive Mafia)

im continuing to read, i can see Dragomir questioning ppl but im not sure if he's genuine in his self-portrayal that he's getting conclusions from said questions. (i could be wrong!)

(reminder to vote Dragomir)

beky is like lock town, he is a very open person and, like, transparent

reached at post 243 by Dragomir and this seems to be just his posting style. kind of like this official business co-workers type of posting style, its just hard (for me) to judge emotions behind that. i really wanna be correct and not push townies so thats why im thinking real hard about ppl and i might be spamming non-content, sorry if so. this is just whats going thru my head.

i no longer think he's scum. he's starting to grow on me

BRUH that harry potter wall

mamma mia

i remember becky telling me at start of game that maybe we have playstyle difference but its not true, i too value emotions of everything. emotions > logic as i keep saying tbh. my eyes are glazing over all the analytical posts u bros are making (i apologize for that) i just cant, like, vibe with it, on a full level. maybe if it was in real time and i was a participant id pay more attention. (sorry)

ok so my genuine thoughts rn as dumb as they are:

dragomir scum and person with eagle avatar town. i cant explain why. let me think 5 minutes to see if i can

Look at the bold and explain to me your progression. It made no sense.

 

[Dragomir]

So what were your conclusions? Apologies if you've already laid them out and I didn't understand
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i acknowledge the fact that gambit is a chaotic player and i assume they get misread a lot, but i don't see anyone else better to vote right now, sorry if you're town gambit

My conclusion is that their responses to my own were fine, at least the ones that made a response.

 

[Onadaga]

Look at the bold and explain to me your progression. It made no sense.

true it doesn't

when i saw the posts at the page where you post that meme of that person and said "man, rej is town this game" that made me feel like you're town. just the energy u give off. but then as i kept reading and let it marinate i decided that i still don't like your one-liner questions of which i dont immediately see your conclusion, i felt as if that could be scum trying to appear busy
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My conclusion is that their responses to my own were fine, at least the ones that made a response.

i dont think its very townie of a person to ask one-liner question and be satisfied with responses that make him just feel "this is ok"

dont take this as an attack on you (if you're town), thats not what i mean

overall this whole thing is minor (imo) and could be a large playstyle difference

 

[Rej]

RAINBOW


Rej
tedxtr
Michelle
Dragomir
Stray Cat
Beky
Onadaga
Nessos
Gambit
Juliet
joby
Poison Chan
Oreki
Samael

Trafalgar Law

I feel like somewhere setting here, where blue represents the towncore, while I don't see myself as the most proactive player, but damn, this is just my own info kapoapapp

It means everyone whos is green coloured might be able to shift redish, but for me personally I would lock 4 people town.
Maybe it is just uber metafeeling because I also use to play with Mich, ted and Poison in a community.
Hence why I am not townreading Poison yet and she has to gain her speed and input as hypothetial town. Dunno if it is just wishthinking but I like playing with her nevertheless.

Samael had a weird posts here I really want him to be revisitted this DP, also by others and we need him to give more input.
In the recent pages I miss Oreki being more deductive and taking less the backseat. Oreki is a player who likes to grasp opportunities and chase them, maybe that is what I miss.
@Oreki come join the read list fun and maybe I will change your placement.

Since Rej isn't here, guess I gotta do the GTH myself.

Stray Cat - great
Beky - good
Rej - great
Michelle - good
Nessos - bad
Joby - haven't looked at her
Ted - meh
Samael - good
Gambit - bad
Poison - good
Oreki - bad

@Stray Cat Those are my thoughts for this current moment. I'm feeling pretty good about them.

Interesting list, I personally question your reads in those three and would wish some more thoughts about them, what do you mean with "meh"? Why is Sam good? What about Poison do you like? And what about Oreki do you dislike?


Also yes my rainbow is a more detailled GTH read list with multiple brackets. Red equals Dragos "bad" and blue equals Dragos "great".
(Statement is aimed at others, who ask themselves what is going on here rn )

 

[Onadaga]

i had a silly townread on Oreki yesterday. its cuz his first game content post was fully dedicated to pedantism/nitpicking about who says what about who about what about something something math. felt like a townie who just didnt give a fuck about appearances (look at me im solving the game) and just did something they felt like doing

 

[Rej]

That is very disruptive play if you are town. Not only do you make yourself a possible miss lynch you also waste time with antics. If thats the case i'll vote Nessos just to remove that kind of playstyle from this game

Oh bro I am done lmao, I was just making my readlist to reevaluate it with dragos list and get some stuff going on.
If you feel like taking your time to do one too.

 

[Stray Cat]

No violet in that rainbow .

 

[Onadaga]

me, beky, rej, harry potter, michelle, stray cat

oreki, nessos

poison, juliet, samael, trafalgar

joby (after letting it marinate for a bit i kinda wanna put her in orange for now. please dont ask me i dont have a nice and well-argumented reason)

gambit, dragomir

 

[Beky]

Oh bro I am done lmao, I was just making my readlist to reevaluate it with dragos list and get some stuff going on.
If you feel like taking your time to do one too.

I fail to see how does my point have anything to do with making a list

 

[tedxtr]

Ona, how about you vote Samael with me? Rej, you could vote as well.

After having briefly skimmed Nessos' town game I no longer feel confident in my previous town lean, although I still feel bad about the lynch somehow.

 

[Oreki]

@Oreki come join the read list fun and maybe I will change your placement.

I don't know, honestly. There are definitely people I'm wary of but I don't know yet. Also, I am not really in the mood of posting as if right now there is just not enough enviroment for me to take hotsheat... so will take part in the thread later or maybe I'll try now

 

[Onadaga]

Ona, how about you vote Samael with me? Rej, you could vote as well.

After having briefly skimmed Nessos' town game I no longer feel confident in my previous town lean, although I still feel bad about the lynch somehow.

one should always follow their own heart

 

[Rej]

I don't know, honestly. There are definitely people I'm wary of but I don't know yet. Also, I am not really in the mood of posting as if right now there is just not enough enviroment for me to take hotsheat... so will take part in the thread later or maybe I'll try now

You have 27 hours left, good to know you are atleast here. Make the best out of it.

 

[Onadaga]

i guess i kinda wanna put joby in orange due to her insistance that stray cat is scum with emotions out of steel, i kinda felt as if i've done it before as scum. but ive also done it as town about people whom i respect, and there is always that pleasure in heaving a read thats anti-consensus. but then again at that point stray cat = town wasnt consensus? mm idk

 

[Michelle]

Gambit's wall... ...you like to pile up words. Putting some numbers for reference:
1.

What's bothering me is how you wanted to juice something from my cute interaction with Joby

That was cute? Then you claim it NAI? Why is this bothering you then?
2.

In both of your statements, it appears that you assumed that a fun act between two players is alrdy a lock in buddies?

when I said is lock? Don't put words in my mouth and don't twist my words please!
3.

You wanted somebody to correct you on that? Then why laid it all that way if you're not the one in position to capitalize on something?

No. I wanted a confirmation because i am less than ESL and sometimes I need the confirmation i get right the sentence.
I didn't find any help at this tbh.
What "capitalize" means in your sentence?
4.

Are u tryna solicit a wagon right here?

i wanted a read
5.

At least, state the facts in which you view me as scum.. For.what i understand, you are tryna leverage on the interaction stray and i are having and inquest an idea to fashion into people's head thereby?

Aren't you assuming too much here? What are Stray doing in this when it was never about her in all the convo?
I think this accusation is a shade who doesn't make sense from my pov and i wish to know why are you doing it. Nvm actually..
6.

I am curious just how you want people to come and also paint me as scum and yet you aren't too certain with your prejudging. That's terrible act. Rather weak than stray tryna get away with the fact that she was really inconsistent with her post. Lmao

When i ever wanted such thing? You are overdefensive in your wall and in the same time you are accusing me several times instead searching for the reason I asked my questions.
Your "lmao" is forced and makes me think you want to hide behind it like all you posted is not really serious and this is insulting for me tbh. :/

I'll tell you my conclusion here: the only way I can find a sense for all your behaviour is if you are scum.
Misinterpreting my posts, being too wordy and defensive, accusing me for imaginary things i didn't do, all this is scummy.

Vote lynch: Gambit

 

[Stray Cat]

i guess i kinda wanna put joby in orange due to her insistance that stray cat is scum with emotions out of steel, i kinda felt as if i've done it before as scum. but ive also done it as town about people whom i respect, and there is always that pleasure in heaving a read thats anti-consensus. but then again at that point stray cat = town wasnt consensus? mm idk

I gave joby PTSD in a certain game, apparently, because I was basically toying with her feelings all game. I still find her scummy, but I wouldn't put it past her that she's just paranoid.

 

[Onadaga]

Vote lynch: Dragomir